To Aru Majutsu no Index LN - New Testament Volume 11 Discussion / Poll

[Kamijou_Touma]

if u got it in word format or pdf, just search the word distorted... ur bound to find it sooner or later.

[Miraluka]

No, there was a chance Othinus will fail to return to Sargasso usiong Imagine Breaker, but as we saw later, she suceed.

Perhaps there was a 1% chance of getting the world changing but... it's Kamachi, and the man isn't fond of of the word 'change'.

[dazo]

^that

and, if we take in consideration this:

To decide between Shokuhou Misaki and Mitsuari Ayu, please reference the attached Parameter List.
And whichever one is chosen as the master, I recommend leaving the other as a slave. If the master happens to die, the equipment and funding focused on her can be reinvested into the slave for a second chance at developing a Level 5 under the same circumstances.

nt 11 "plot" was in reality Mitsuari last chance to become a level 5 * the slave become the master, by killing the previous master - this sound so "sith"-like *
and, she failed the last test *her level of nonsense was too high*

in any case, this "vs" was mean to happen, because its a fundamental part of the experiment*so, its not othinus mistake *

Originally Posted by Kamijou_Touma

if u got it in word format or pdf, just search the word distorted... ur bound to find it sooner or later.

i actually tried that with nt9 chapter 8 *no luck*

Originally Posted by Ravagerblade

I actually believe that with Mitsuari Ayu and her "sudden" return to what was supposedly Touma's failure to save her is either a consequence or reward of Othinus bring back the dead people in NT9, unintentionally of course. I hope you guys know where I'm going with this.

that sound really awesome..but...

okay, time to re-watch "back to the future" trilogy.

[Ravagerblade]

Spoiler for Multi-Quotes:

Originally Posted by Ravagerblade

I actually believe that with Mitsuari Ayu and her "sudden" return to what was supposedly Touma's failure to save her is either a consequence or reward of Othinus bring back the dead people in NT9, unintentionally of course. I hope you guys know where I'm going with this.

Originally Posted by dniv

That would actually be interesting, now that you mention it. If that were the case, it would be fascinating if there are any other distortions to the world.

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

a small request:

can anyone tell me where it was stated that thhe world comes back "distorted"?

beause i remember that someone posted the exact part where that was "stated", i only want to know if it is explicity stated... afterall it isnt new for us to speculate (sometims a bit to much)

Originally Posted by dniv

I don't remember this ever being stated. I think it's just speculation. But it has a little support here and there. Though it may have been stated, I suppose.

Maybe it's lost in translation? Good point though.

Well more in line with my thinking is that the world was already distorted before NT8-9-10-11... We did have Angel Fall and that supposedly got fixed by Fiamma, but that was only one aspect of one phase of the world, there must probably be more that's gone unnoticed. Also with how much Magician's and Esper's change reality there could also be an effect on the world itself too. We still have all of the other phases of the world out there.

Othinus using IB to chip away all that may have caused some of those effected to be rendered *pure*, if you will? lol
Also by my speculation, normally IB can't negate what supernatural power has done to objects well how about when a Magic God uses it for a reference point? It becomes able too wipe away the aftereffects, My speculation again, By that chance possibly some deaths caused by the supernatural powers are rendered null.

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by Ravagerblade

Well more in line with my thinking is that the world was already distorted before NT8-9-10-11... We did have Angel Fall and that supposedly got fixed by Fiamma, but that was only one aspect of one phase of the world, there must probably be more that's gone unnoticed.

maybe they existed until people accepted the "distorted" version of the world as the normal one

Also with how much Magician's and Esper's change reality there could also be an effect on the world itself too. We still have all of the other phases of the world out there.

esper emit AIM, and in large concentrations they create a phase on their own...
this is all...
i think magicians/humans are the main reason... afterall, even the cuthulu-magic has (should have) his own phase, the same for soriana and her lessi-magic, or cendrillon....

Othinus using IB to chip away all that may have caused some of those effected to be rendered *pure*, if you will? lol
Also by my speculation, normally IB can't negate what supernatural power has done to objects well how about when a Magic God uses it for a reference point? It becomes able too wipe away the aftereffects, My speculation again, By that chance possibly some deaths caused by the supernatural powers are rendered null.

if this would happen i could imagine some magicians using IB as "idol" and turn their right hands into "IB's" too, so that they can cast magic but negate it form the enemys... it would be the second "step" since NT was mostly based on touma and him being the "center of attention" :/
now, after being the "center of attention" for the world leaders, IB will become the center for a new branch of magic

[allfictions]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

even the cuthulu-magic has (should have) his own phase

Based on what? We have no idea what exact process create a Phase naturally (meaning, without the intervention of a Majin), but from what we have been told, they all came out of existing religions. Cthulhu mythos is not a religion.

the same for soriana and her lessi-magic

Saronia. Leshy.

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by allfictions

Based on what? We have no idea what exact process create a Phase naturally (meaning, without the intervention of a Majin), but from what we have been told, they all came out of existing religions. Cthulhu mythos is not a religion.

after NT9 wasnt it "upgraded" how magicians use magic? i thought they now gained their "magical powers" from the phases :/
i wouldnt be suprised if one phase exist that belongs to each kind of "magic"...
and magicians are able to use the powers of differnet phases simultanously, which is the reason why they can mix spells from different religions...

Aaaahhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, you are right,
cuthulu doesnt have a phase on his own... the text said that someone created the legends of the cuthulu mythos while using other magical systems and combined them togehter... that would mak cuthulu a patchwork out of many different phases (myths/religious magical systems)...

Saronia. Leshy.

so many comlicated names

[allfictions]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

after NT9 wasnt it "upgraded" how magicians use magic? i thought they now gained their "magical powers" from the phases :/

Upgraded?

And...not really. We have no proof of that either (where was the Norse Phase from which Othinus was drawing her powers in NT9 then? And are Espers taking their powers from the Imaginary District?). What we know however is that the afterlives and the pantheons exist and that's it. Magicians can control (somewhat) telesma coming from Heaven, and Archangels can be accidentally called down, but Christian magic is not derived from either (they use mana and symbols like everybody else). The things I'm willing to admit the Phases might influence magic with is the birth of Saints (I doubt Saints appeared before the coming of Christ since their weaknesses are based on his Cruxifiction), Fiamma's Holy Right (since he was born with it), and the creation of Valkyries, and all of these are not manipulated by Magicians.

the text said that someone created the legends of the cuthulu mythos

''Someone''

[Inept Forum User]

It seems a short preview of that little figure sidestory, which is supposedly linked to NT11, has been released on Dengeki's hobby site.

[Kuroageha]

It was an ok volume, the problem is, if you're not a hard fan of Misaki you will notice her role in the series is just a product of teasing the reader since her character was hinted so much and it doesn't pays off when you realize she will be back to the shadows.

Kind of sad because others barely have foreshadowing and appear out of the blue for plot convenience.


7/10

[LordZero25]

I don't follow the series anymore. I've read that Touma lost the ability to remember Misaki, just curious did his memory lost from old testament v1 fixed it? His brain was practically new right?

[LazyHunter]

Originally Posted by LordZero25

I don't follow the series anymore. I've read that Touma lost the ability to remember Misaki, just curious did his memory lost from old testament v1 fixed it? His brain was practically new right?

Both of those incidents were brain damage, not just amnesia. I don't think you can fix brain damage with more brain damage. Anyway, those memories were destroyed with the rest of his memory in OT1 and he still can't retain memories of her.

[Kamijou_Touma]

I thought his memory of Misaki was locked away and didn't get damaged by the OP feather. idk, but I didn't really get anything out of the Misaki volume besides some comedy.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by Kamijou_Touma

I thought his memory of Misaki was locked away and didn't get damaged by the OP feather. idk, but I didn't really get anything out of the Misaki volume besides some comedy.

-_- locked away? its brain damage and not some simple memory locked thing. The brain cells that contains those memories are destroyed and the remaining cells are also damage in a way that can't contain a memory about her.

basically its kamachi trolling the fans of misaki. it won't happen.