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kari-no-sugata II · 2022-09-29, 18:22

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Originally Posted by grecefar

So it's okey for Ko to not turn if he doesn't want to but he needs to fall in love with Nazuna, that was the deal?

Nazuna has to try to get Kou to fall in love with her. Previously she had taken a passive stance. This was extremely embarrassing for her.

Viewing it from another angle, Niko is basically saying: give us a nice tasty love story and we'll let you (and Kou) off the hook.

Frontier · 2022-09-29, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Lots of loose ends, but I think it was a rather satisfying ending all things considered. I'd love a second season, but I'm fine with it ending there. We can easily imagine Kou and Nazuna went on to live happily ever after. At this point it's set in stone they will end up together. Both of them have made up their minds.

Well, there's Anko trying to kill them all and they haven't said those three little words yet...but Ko basically swore his life to her, so I count it as a marriage proposal

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serenade_beta · 2022-09-29, 21:44

Spoiler for final thoughts:

Strahan · 2022-09-29, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Frontier

I saw someone point out that Ko's reflection in the window started fading as the conversation between him and Hatsuka went along.

Coupled with his athletics when they broke into the school, it seems like he is slowly starting to turn already.

I don't doubt he's being affected, but the reflection thing is iffy at best. It looks like just a style choice. If the detail in the other reflections were as vivid in the blurred-Ko shot, I'd agree but it's not just Ko. Everything else is muted so it is more like a lighting issue.

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Guardian Enzo · 2022-09-30, 09:43

That wouldn't explain jumping off a pedestrian overpass (in Japan those are typically at least 2 stories high) and running off like a mountain goat.

Dop · 2022-09-30, 16:01

Yeah, the school gate was surprisingly athletic, but the footbridge jump was above and beyond unless maybe you were a total buff parkour expert. which Kou isn't.

Cloudedmind · 2022-09-30, 16:59

Maybe not. It looks like the anime just changed things.

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Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

In the manga he was actually saved by Hatsuka. I'm guessing they trimmed it to save time.

Guardian Enzo · 2022-09-30, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Dop

Yeah, the school gate was surprisingly athletic, but the footbridge jump was above and beyond unless maybe you were a total buff parkour expert. which Kou isn't.

I thought the school gate thing was just 14 year-old boys being stupidly flexible and reckless at the time, but in light of the finale I'm not so sure now.

Chiibi · 2022-09-30, 18:58

PERFECTION.

....and Hatsuka's reveal really surprised me too

I loved the replay scene from episode 01 with Kou and Nazuna switching roles!! That trope is always awesome

I need a second season....but at least there's the manga until then!

Guardian Enzo · 2022-09-30, 19:46

They hinted at Hatsuka pretty hard, and the "Boku" last week was pretty much the final confirmation.

GDB · 2022-09-30, 19:54

For the record, he's been using "Boku" since his introduction.

Guardian Enzo · 2022-09-30, 20:39

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Originally Posted by GDB

For the record, he's been using "Boku" since his introduction.

Did he say "boku? when he was introduced in the anime? I don't remember it, if so.

Frontier · 2022-09-30, 20:41

I mean, actual girls using "boku" isn't completely out of the norm in anime, even if it was meant as the first clue

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Guardian Enzo · 2022-09-30, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Frontier

I mean, actual girls using "boku" isn't completely out of the norm in anime, even if it was meant as the first clue

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Well, if there were any any earlier bokus I didn't notice any until this episode. But there were a lot of subtle suggestions in that rooftop scene that "one of these is not like the others". The way he approaches and discusses Kou is markedly different from all the others.

serenade_beta · 2022-09-30, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Did he say "boku? when he was introduced in the anime? I don't remember it, if so.

Definitely did

Chiibi · 2022-09-30, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Frontier

I mean, actual girls using "boku" isn't completely out of the norm in anime,

Yeah, exactly. Lime from Saber Marionette was the first girl I saw do it.

SeijiSensei · 2022-10-01, 13:59

Yofukashi no Uta aired in the "noitaminA" slot on FujiTV.They're rather booked up at the moment with a 46-episode remake of Urusei Yatsura by David Productions starting in a couple of weeks followed by an adaptation of Rurouni Kenshin by Liden Films of unspecified length.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noitamina

Some noitaminA shows have had multiple seasons, most recently Promised Neverland. We'll see, but it won't happen any time soon.

Strahan · 2022-10-01, 17:32

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

That wouldn't explain jumping off a pedestrian overpass (in Japan those are typically at least 2 stories high) and running off like a mountain goat.

If that was directed to me, I just meant I think people read too much into the reflection thing, that's it.

Chiibi · 2022-10-01, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Strahan

If that was directed to me, I just meant I think people read too much into the reflection thing, that's it.

I agree; I didn't even notice it...but the rest of the room lost its reflection too so it doesn't mean anything...

Ghostfriendly · 2022-10-08, 06:15

Anko's motormouth had strong Durarara vibes. The impression is that she only cares about her own ideas, not other people. Hatsuka enthralling blood slaves is another plank in her 'exterminate vampires' case, but at least Hatsuka didn't 'hypnotise' Ko into falling in love with her. Anko said she isn't concerned with the law/societal morality herself; the vampires could be surviving in a much more responsible way, but they are acting to survive and fulfil basic needs in the unfavourable conditions of hiding themselves from society. Not all of would deserve to be destroyed, unless for the poor reason of removing a competing 'other' to humanity.

'Vampire destroying ring' might be a bluff, if they die in sunlight anyway? If Anko can kill vampires, the vampires can certainly kill her. She probably has a file of evidence that will get released if she dies, but she can't be the smartest or best prepared person in history that the vampires have had to shut up.

A thoughtful and thematic final arc, leading to a satisfying conclusion. Whatever advantages Ko will accrue by living forever, staying with Nazuna is most meaningful for a character focused on connections or lack of them.

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Chiibi Vanitas owns you >:3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: in a boring place you will not want to go to	PERFECTION. ....and Hatsuka's reveal really surprised me too I loved the replay scene from episode 01 with Kou and Nazuna switching roles!! That trope is always awesome I need a second season....but at least there's the manga until then! __________________

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	I mean, actual girls using "boku" isn't completely out of the norm in anime, even if it was meant as the first clue . __________________

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SeijiSensei AS Oji-kun Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 74	Yofukashi no Uta aired in the "noitaminA" slot on FujiTV.They're rather booked up at the moment with a 46-episode remake of Urusei Yatsura by David Productions starting in a couple of weeks followed by an adaptation of Rurouni Kenshin by Liden Films of unspecified length. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noitamina Some noitaminA shows have had multiple seasons, most recently Promised Neverland. We'll see, but it won't happen any time soon. __________________ Taking Anime Seriously - Politics by the Numbers - Sports by the Numbers - MAL List - Avatars - Images

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Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	Yeah, the school gate was surprisingly athletic, but the footbridge jump was above and beyond unless maybe you were a total buff parkour expert. which Kou isn't.

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	For the record, he's been using "Boku" since his introduction.

2022-10-08, 06:15	Link #200
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Anko's motormouth had strong Durarara vibes. The impression is that she only cares about her own ideas, not other people. Hatsuka enthralling blood slaves is another plank in her 'exterminate vampires' case, but at least Hatsuka didn't 'hypnotise' Ko into falling in love with her. Anko said she isn't concerned with the law/societal morality herself; the vampires could be surviving in a much more responsible way, but they are acting to survive and fulfil basic needs in the unfavourable conditions of hiding themselves from society. Not all of would deserve to be destroyed, unless for the poor reason of removing a competing 'other' to humanity. 'Vampire destroying ring' might be a bluff, if they die in sunlight anyway? If Anko can kill vampires, the vampires can certainly kill her. She probably has a file of evidence that will get released if she dies, but she can't be the smartest or best prepared person in history that the vampires have had to shut up. A thoughtful and thematic final arc, leading to a satisfying conclusion. Whatever advantages Ko will accrue by living forever, staying with Nazuna is most meaningful for a character focused on connections or lack of them.