Shin High School DxD Volume 3 Discussion

[XFire]

Originally Posted by godz

Grendel who was a henchman was more imposing, devils with so much potential to be defeated so quickly ... They could have been stronger than hades or angra mainyu ... but no, thousands of theories were destroyed.
Maybe for readers who are only interested in harem or echi does not care, but much potential was lost.

Okay, so is there some kind of agenda here with you? Because none of this was ever even considered that I'm aware of. These guys were Maou-class henchies, they were always going to be fodder to Issei and his peers. The question was if their abilities could threaten the weaker members of DxD.

[godz]

Originally Posted by XFire

Okay, so is there some kind of agenda here with you? Because none of this was ever even considered that I'm aware of. These guys were Maou-class henchies, they were always going to be fodder to Issei and his peers. The question was if their abilities could threaten the weaker members of DxD.

They were candidates for super devils, a candidate for super devil is not fodder.
Now what kind of threat is hades? He lost nyx, 2000 high-class devil, gresil, sonnelion, erebus and tartarus, if since he is a top 10 ... but issei has already defeated top 10 and baalberith as verrine are not enemies, only hades and angra mainyu

[cyberdemon]

Spoiler for 3:

Balberith is a surprisingly good guy seeing him give up his collection to kids to the point of tears

Verrine showing interest in fighting Issei increases her chances of joining the harem

[The Infinite Dream]

Theres no such thing as candidate for super devil. They were maou class who had the possibility of transcending. Possibility does not mean it will happen. So theyre only maou class and at this stage for most the main fighters that is a fodder enemy.

[Djeveler]

Originally Posted by godz

They were candidates for super devils, a candidate for super devil is not fodder.
Now what kind of threat is hades? He lost nyx, 2000 high-class devil, gresil, sonnelion, erebus and tartarus, if since he is a top 10 ... but issei has already defeated top 10 and baalberith as verrine are not enemies, only hades and angra mainyu

Hades is already better than a Super Devil candidate, since all you seem to be concerned about is power. Remember that Rizevim was a Super Devil too, and he wasn't even Top 10. So being a Super Devil candidate does not ensure they would have been superior to Hades, even if they did make the jump.

Also, Verrine is joining Hades and Angra Mainyu in dealing with Issei, so she is an enemy, at least for now.

[godz]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

Theres no such thing as candidate for super devil. They were maou class who had the possibility of transcending. Possibility does not mean it will happen.

It was potential, a threat that if they had let it bloom it would have been more dangerous ... But it seems that their role was only to shine to cao cao and tobio (for slash dog 4)

Verrine is obviously a potential ally, she is baalberith's sister and how baalberith is a good boy verrine will be a good girl.

Verrine reminds me a lot of what would have been a fem vali.

[Crimson_Emperor]

Their mind is still like a child arrogant and aggresive

[amtro]

Apocalypse x AnswerArms has to be the stupidest name to date.
What the hell are you thinking Ishibumi?

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by godz

It was potential, a threat that if they had let it bloom it would have been more dangerous ... But it seems that their role was only to shine to cao cao and tobio (for slash dog 4)

Verrine is obviously a potential ally, she is baalberith's sister and how baalberith is a good boy verrine will be a good girl.

Verrine reminds me a lot of what would have been a fem vali.

And Sonneillon and Gresil were basically Balberith's brothers and look what happened to them.

We've barely seen anything of Verrine so how do you judge that she's like a female Vali?

Almost feel bad for Zeno having to accompany Balberith.

@amitro I agree. That's basically the worst name I could ever imagine. I wonder if Ishibumi is running out of good names for things in the series.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

And Sonneillon and Gresil were basically Balberith's brothers and look what happened to them.

We've barely seen anything of Verrine so how do you judge that she's like a female Vali?

Almost feel bad for Zeno having to accompany Balberith.

Is that Verrine wants to fight with Issei and if my memory does not fail me they have dialogues in volume 24 or 25 where he demonstrates a warrior personality.

So she is an allied candidate as a candidate for the harem of issei, leaving the team hades too weak where only hades is who seems to be the only one that matters.

[BlueDragon1990]

Originally Posted by amtro

Apocalypse x AnswerArms has to be the stupidest name to date.
What the hell are you thinking Ishibumi?

I agree with you there. This reminds me of other dumb names from other series and such. To this day, "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" still makes me crack up. Thankfully it is now changed.

Hopefully one day, AxA will have a name change that will sound better.

[Djeveler]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

Theres no such thing as candidate for super devil. They were maou class who had the possibility of transcending. Possibility does not mean it will happen. So theyre only maou class and at this stage for most the main fighters that is a fodder enemy.

They were actually above Maou-class.

Originally Posted by amtro

Apocalypse x AnswerArms has to be the stupidest name to date.

This I agree with.

I was memeing the other day about Ishibumi's hilariously gratuitous and frequent use of the word "Answer" (albeit in Japanese), but now that he used it in the AxA name in such a clumsy way, and without it relating in the least, at the same time ruining a name that could have been normal on its own (Apocalypse x Arms would have been acceptable), this is actually becoming a serious issue for him, lmao.

Originally Posted by godz

Is that Verrine wants to fight with Issei and if my memory does not fail me they have dialogues in volume 24 or 25 where he demonstrates a warrior personality.

So she is an allied candidate as a candidate for the harem of issei, leaving the team hades too weak where only hades is who seems to be the only one that matters.

She never showed any warrior-like dialogue. All that was shown is she's jovial and casual, and wants an older brother.

Also how funny that you call Hades "too weak" when just a while ago you were whining about two guys who weren't even transcendent-class being strong and not deserving to be killed so early.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Djeveler

They were actually above Maou-class.



This I agree with.

I was memeing the other day about Ishibumi's hilariously gratuitous and frequent use of the word "Answer" (albeit in Japanese), but now that he used it in the AxA name in such a clumsy way, and without it relating in the least, at the same time ruining a name that could have been normal on its own (Apocalypse x Arms would have been acceptable), this is actually becoming a serious issue for him, lmao.



She never showed any warrior-like dialogue. All that was shown is she's jovial and casual, and wants an older brother.

Also how funny that you call Hades "too weak" when just a while ago you were whining about two guys who weren't even transcendent-class being strong and not deserving to be killed so early.

Spoiler for volumen 25, verrine:

“Hey, Balberith. What do you think Hades-sama wants to do by making us participate in this tournament?”

The bronze-haired young man who was reading a folklore book [The Red and White Dragon] behind her was — Balberith.

“…I don’t know. It seems like he wanted to cause a miracle by having us clash with the Two Heavenly Dragons, but…to be honest, I doubt their strength is better than the Asura Gods.”

Verrine then said as she lied down

“Anyway, our current goal is to make the chosen Sonneillon and Gressil as strong as Balberith and I in this tournament.”

After reading the book, he put it down on top of a pile of books as he looked at another book with the word [Ouroboros] written on its cover.

“… Hey, Verrine. I want to fight Ophis and the like.”

“Well, the Two Heavenly Dragons might be the best right now. It’s said that Ophis is currently under heavy protection.”

“… As expected, the Two Heavenly Dragons, huh.”

Balberith then looked at a book with the title [Parent and Child] in the stack of books.

“Verrine, if our mother is Lilith, then who is our father?”

Verrine who seemed uninterested answered

“Hmm, I don’t know? Hades-sama? But, Hades-sama looks like he hates Devils and I am sure that we are just pawns to him. Well, as long as it’s fun, I am fine with that.”

Hades is strong, not for nothing is a top 10 ... but is it so strong to be able to defeat Issei, Ddraig, Vali, Albion, Chrom-Cruach, Rias Balor, Fenrir, Ajuka, Prime Strada, Ophis, Lilith and Shiva? the answer is a resounding no, before the devil created with the gods of hell were that answer to match the court before the beings of ExE arrived ... now it has lost 5 powerful allies, baalberith is not a threat to issei and Verrine possibly joins the harem, he only has angra mainyu and unless he has a plan b, hades is no longer a threat of the level promised in volume 23.

but something is clear, of all the new demons born of lilith only baaelberith and verrine are important.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by amtro

Apocalypse x AnswerArms has to be the stupidest name to date.
What the hell are you thinking Ishibumi?

Apocalypse x Armaments would have been better

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Apocalypse x Armaments would have been better

I'm going with my original idea. ApocalypsexArmaggedon. That would have been an epic name.

@Djeveler How about the five devils created by Lilith that have the potential to become Maou-class devils?

@godz Almost every stupidly powerful person in this series wants to fight Issei. That's not really any proof she's like Vali.

[Lex79]

Originally Posted by godz

Spoiler for volumen 25, verrine:

“Hey, Balberith. What do you think Hades-sama wants to do by making us participate in this tournament?”

The bronze-haired young man who was reading a folklore book [The Red and White Dragon] behind her was — Balberith.

“…I don’t know. It seems like he wanted to cause a miracle by having us clash with the Two Heavenly Dragons, but…to be honest, I doubt their strength is better than the Asura Gods.”

Verrine then said as she lied down

“Anyway, our current goal is to make the chosen Sonneillon and Gressil as strong as Balberith and I in this tournament.”

After reading the book, he put it down on top of a pile of books as he looked at another book with the word [Ouroboros] written on its cover.

“… Hey, Verrine. I want to fight Ophis and the like.”

“Well, the Two Heavenly Dragons might be the best right now. It’s said that Ophis is currently under heavy protection.”

“… As expected, the Two Heavenly Dragons, huh.”

Balberith then looked at a book with the title [Parent and Child] in the stack of books.

“Verrine, if our mother is Lilith, then who is our father?”

Verrine who seemed uninterested answered

“Hmm, I don’t know? Hades-sama? But, Hades-sama looks like he hates Devils and I am sure that we are just pawns to him. Well, as long as it’s fun, I am fine with that.”

Hades is strong, not for nothing is a top 10 ... but is it so strong to be able to defeat Issei, Ddraig, Vali, Albion, Chrom-Cruach, Rias Balor, Fenrir, Ajuka, Prime Strada, Ophis, Lilith and Shiva? the answer is a resounding no, before the devil created with the gods of hell were that answer to match the court before the beings of ExE arrived ... now it has lost 5 powerful allies, baalberith is not a threat to issei and Verrine possibly joins the harem, he only has angra mainyu and unless he has a plan b, hades is no longer a threat of the level promised in volume 23.

but something is clear, of all the new demons born of lilith only baaelberith and verrine are important.

It's too early to say that Baalberith and Verrine aren't going to be a threat to Issei. Verrine might join the harem,but for now she wants to fight him, she could fall for him after being defeated. Baalberith is a good guy at heart but that doesn't mean he cannot be coerced or tricked into fighting Issei before switching side.

[Ashvar]

Sonnelion and Gressil did not transcend btw.

[Parry999]

Kind of unnecessary of them to exist but Cao Cao needed another w against a Maou-class or above person when he already beat Sairaorg \_(•.•)_/. Tobio needs more feats to hype his prequel I guess. He already fought Grendel clones and an ultimate-class grim reaper.

[Ruki0089]

Apocalypse x Andwerarm
What's with Chuuni like name?

[Parry999]

Sounds kind of like it's going to be a hinderance with his team mates are on the field in the tournament.