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Old 2018-10-18, 10:36   Link #521
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I imagine that Balberith will fight Issei in AxA as oppose to fighting a new super devil but If Vali gets a big power up he could fight a second super super devil if hades makes one.
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Old 2018-10-18, 11:36   Link #522
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Balberith seem intelectual type. Even though he's powerful he reads lot of books. If even ingvild could resist to a degree the brainwashing of nyx. I think balberith would be immune to any kind of control hades has. So he probably just playing along with hades cuz he doesnt know any better. So maybe aftet knowing more about issei he would change camp.
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Old 2018-10-18, 12:14   Link #523
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Hey guys I forgot this thread existed.

So what I predict is that Hades isn't going to be the final boss of the last arc but rather an unexpected Super Devil he ends up creating who is even more malicious than Rizevim and has even more fanatical ambitions than Rizevim. And the devil is as powerful as Balberith and becomes his rival.
Do you want to see the version of the cell saga in dxd?
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Old 2018-10-18, 12:51   Link #524
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Everyone here pretty much knows Hades wont be the final boss of the arc
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Old 2018-10-18, 13:04   Link #525
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Everyone here pretty much knows Hades wont be the final boss of the arc
Of course, considering the arc's name it should be Vali.
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Old 2018-10-18, 13:24   Link #526
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Someone thinks that maybe it is angra mainyu and that betrays hades seizing his army and the demons
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Old 2018-10-18, 22:45   Link #527
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No in my opinion it won't be a god from a mythology that's the final boss but rather a devil.

And again just to remind everyone how I predict the matches turning out.(Bolded names are the winners)

Sairaorg Bael vs Shooting Star

Indra vs Mahabali

Issei Hyoudou vs Rias Gremory

Diehauser Belial vs Zeno

Cao Cao vs Surtr

Ruval Phenex vs Typhon

Dulio Gesualdo vs Tobio Ikuse

Vali Lucifer vs Sun Wukong


Quarterfinals

Sairaorg Bael vs Mahabali

Rias Gremory vs Diehauser Belial

Surtr vs Ruval Phenex

Dulio Gesualdo vs Vali Lucifer


Semifinals

Rias Gremory vs Mahabali

Vali Lucifer vs Surtr


Finals

Rias Gremory vs Vali Lucifer
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Old 2018-10-18, 23:36   Link #528
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Current Rias team has no chance against Belial, unless she sends Crom. Which is unlikely will be swapped away by champion.

Leaving aside Ise V Rias. Which is basically pointless to talk abt.
You think Mahabali will win against Indra?
Belial against Zeno? You think he stands chance against balberith who's power is about equal as Prime Ophis and has potential to Rival GR? Are you serious?

Sairaorg, Mahabali Rias or Dulio none of them are gonna make it to Quarterfinals.

If not Heavenly dragons then Balberith will the one to Kick Indra's ass.
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Old 2018-10-19, 00:33   Link #529
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So it's out of the question that Rias could win against Diehauser yet it's impossible for Diehauser to beat Zeno?

I understand where a lot of people are coming from but I think a lot of people seem to forget that these are not just simple battles where the stronger one wins but these are Rating Games. While power is very crucial, it's not the only thing necessary to win. And then teams can boost their power and go against expectations. Like Rias merging with Gasper to create her Balor Form. Or Vidar making a pact with Midgardsomir and using him as a power source for his Ragnarok Berserk armor or whatever it is called. Or Strada being returned to his youth. Or Issei receiving Ascalon ll, Rossweisse receiving the Mistelteinn wand, and Xenovia receiving Avalon, Excalibur's sheath. So the current power level of a team isn't really a constant.

And Diehauser along with Ruval are the two most experienced kings out of the 16 with the most Rating Game experience. Diehauser has never lost a Rating Game and even competing in the preliminaries with gods and god-class beings didn't change that. And Ruval may not be as good as Diehauser but he still has years of Rating Game experience under his belt and made it into one of the 16 spots.

So when I try to predict who's going to win, power is one of the last things I look at.

And right now Balberith may not be Dragon God-level as Hades only said he has the potential to fight a Dragon God which may imply he's not there yet. And plus despite being very powerful, Balberith, Verrine, and the other devils are still young so could logically be defeated in a Rating Game by older, more experienced beings.
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Old 2018-10-19, 00:45   Link #530
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Most likely this tournament will end in a match between Ise and Vali. Like a frendlier version of the fated battle between the two heavenly dragons . Baltberith yes has a power as great as Ophis prime but the problem here might be that he doesnt have experience . Especially against someone like the champion of the rating game Belial.
Also if Ise will end up against Zeno team he might be able to reach his GR powers
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Old 2018-10-19, 00:50   Link #531
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No way Rias is going to win, the whole point of this tournament if for Issei to win as this is the final arc, makes no sense for anyone else to win even Vali

That would be a nice end for Issei's story in DXD, from being a devil so weak he had less magic than a baby devil to standing on top of the world
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Old 2018-10-19, 01:05   Link #532
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No in my opinion it won't be a god from a mythology that's the final boss but rather a devil.

And again just to remind everyone how I predict the matches turning out.(Bolded names are the winners)

Sairaorg Bael vs Shooting Star

Indra vs Mahabali

Issei Hyoudou vs Rias Gremory

Diehauser Belial vs Zeno

Cao Cao vs Surtr

Ruval Phenex vs Typhon

Dulio Gesualdo vs Tobio Ikuse

Vali Lucifer vs Sun Wukong


Quarterfinals

Sairaorg Bael vs Mahabali

Rias Gremory vs Diehauser Belial

Surtr vs Ruval Phenex

Dulio Gesualdo vs Vali Lucifer


Semifinals

Rias Gremory vs Mahabali

Vali Lucifer vs Surtr


Finals

Rias Gremory vs Vali Lucifer
It's very doubtful that Mahabali can defeats Indra, considering his strength and skills As a God of War. Additionally, Ishibumi's never repeated the rating game match in the main story so the chance for Rias to face Vali again is low. She is most likely to get knocked out from the tournament by Issei.

In my opinion, the semi-final and final will look like this...

Semifinals

Issei (Team Red Dragon Emperor of the Blazing Truth) vs Indra (Team Vajra)

Vali (Team White Dragon Emperor of the Morning Star) vs Cao Cao (Team Spear of Heavenly Emperor)



Final
Issei (Team Red Dragon Emperor of the Blazing Truth) vs Vali (Team White Dragon Emperor of the Morning Star)

This is a long awaited battle between Issei and Vali. Ishibumi won't let the chance slip by.

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Old 2018-10-19, 02:05   Link #533
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I just think that Issei vs Vali won't happen until the end of the series. So I don't see a Rating Game match between the two. Because in my opinion, their match is going to be at the very end of the series like Naruto vs Sasuke at the very end of Naruto(the entire manga series). And it'll take place after a few years timeskip after they have had time to adjust to their new powers.

And I don't see Issei and Vali both making it to the semifinals. Just seems too straightforward.

And neither do I see Issei defeating the Black Satan team. And neither do I see the team with the former 2nd ranker on it advancing when Diehauser's team doesn't.

Again these are Rating Games not one-on-one battles.

And there haven't been many matches to repeat. Just because it hasn't doesn't mean it won't.
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Old 2018-10-19, 02:37   Link #534
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Yes having power isn't always going to be end up in your favor in RG. But only if it half-baked strength and power. Issei turned losing game in his favor with absolute power against Barakeal, against Sona team and Almost won against Dulio.

Balberith isn't some God class op. He's above heavenly dragon class, Ophis prime. That guy fought Mahabali and didn't even get a scratch.Mahabali was the one kneeling on the ground, exhausted, lost not being able to anything. Even among God's he was few steps above them.

Diehauser have never lost BC he hasn't faced monsters like Balberith or Someone Heavenly dragon class opp like Apophis. God class op can Rias herself can handle with Balor form.

Heavenly dragon rivalry battle definitely happening. It's been hyped since v-21.

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Old 2018-10-19, 02:53   Link #535
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I just think that Issei vs Vali won't happen until the end of the series. So I don't see a Rating Game match between the two. Because in my opinion, their match is going to be at the very end of the series like Naruto vs Sasuke at the very end of Naruto(the entire manga series). And it'll take place after a few years timeskip after they have had time to adjust to their new powers.
The battle between those two is very special, not just another battle. There is no better opportunity than Azazel Cup in front of audiences from the entire world. Also Ishibumi can let it happen in the final volume which will be the epic conclusion of the series.
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And there haven't been many matches to repeat. Just because it hasn't doesn't mean it won't.
The possibility is still low anyway. Issei is the main rival of Vali, not Rias.
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Old 2018-10-19, 05:45   Link #536
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I could care less who Ise fights in the finals, I just want to see Ise tap into Great Red's power and go full on Dragon mode (full dragon body) and surprise everyone.
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Old 2018-10-19, 05:53   Link #537
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Issei making it to the finals has more to offer to the story then Rias, beating Issei shows she can fight without him, fighting Diehauser doesn't help though because she wants to be champion of the official ratings games with her own peerage. Half her current team isn't part of her peerage and 2 of them specialise against devils. Her vs Mahabali offers nothing and her vs Vali offers nothing.
Issei beating Rias shows his growth as a king
Issei vs Balberith is the alied factions greatest hero vs hades' army greatest fighter.
Issei vs Indra could lead to why he wants to fight Shiva and gives us a show from Volume 10 when Indra said if Issei becomes a threat he'd kill him.
Issei vs Vali, the two best red and while dragon emperors fighting on the world stage infront of all the factions.
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Old 2018-10-19, 08:09   Link #538
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I dont believe the series will end with Ise vs Vali fight . We are forgetting the fact that there`s still Melvazoa and his army . Chichigami was introduce before the whole bullshit with BorN.
The Azazel Cup is the best chance for this fight to happen . Beside the whole supernatural world watching , this cup is named after their teacher . And who said Sirzechs and the co fighting with Trihexa wont be able to see this match .
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Old 2018-10-19, 08:15   Link #539
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I dont believe the series will end with Ise vs Vali fight . We are forgetting the fact that there`s still Melvazoa and his army . Chichigami was introduce before the whole bullshit with BorN.
The Azazel Cup is the best chance for this fight to happen . Beside the whole supernatural world watching , this cup is named after their teacher . And who said Sirzechs and the co fighting with Trihexa wont be able to see this match .
Not the series, but the arc.
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Old 2018-10-19, 08:48   Link #540
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When Melvazoa comes, it'll be a whole other series.

High School DxD is basically Issei's adventures and encounters while he's in high school. Melvazoa and the UL won't come until 30 years in the future.
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