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Old 2018-05-16, 09:10   Link #4221
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Well i don't think Avalon is really absolute though.
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Old 2018-05-16, 09:28   Link #4222
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Maybe it isn't. But we still know that Apollon couldn't retire her because of it.
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Old 2018-05-16, 10:49   Link #4223
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If he had kept at it, he probably could have. But he might have felt he didn't have the time to waste just throwing attacks at her all day so he trapped her in one of his most deadliest attacks and pieced out.
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Old 2018-05-16, 11:00   Link #4224
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That deadliest attack still didn't retire her. She's invulnerable with Avalon. Immortal. The only weakness right now is that for some reason, she can't use it with Excalibur (maybe she needs to completely master Excalibur first).
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Old 2018-05-16, 14:33   Link #4225
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Here's a match up.

Vidar w. (Enhanced boost + Midgarsomr armor) vs Vali (DxD L)
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Old 2018-05-16, 14:36   Link #4226
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Here's a match up.

Vidar w. (Enhanced boost + Midgarsomr armor) vs Vali (DxD L)
vali (dxdL), since it gave him problems and caused injuries to crom cruach, who we know exceeds the power of Ddraig.
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Old 2018-05-16, 14:53   Link #4227
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Again let's wait until Volume 25 is actually translated.
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Old 2018-05-16, 17:30   Link #4228
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Does anyone else think that saji / vritra deserves his revenge against Indra?
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Old 2018-05-16, 19:25   Link #4229
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Do Ddraig and Albion deserve their revenge against the Three Factions?

Vritra is an Evil Dragon if you haven't realized. There's a reason he was called such.
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Old 2018-05-16, 19:30   Link #4230
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if God were alive I think that ddraig and albion motivate their hosts to face it ... but I meant more to a rematch and evil can vary.
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Old 2018-05-16, 21:17   Link #4231
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Maybe albion would as Vali wanted to fight god of bible, but Ddraig would not, outside of rivalry with albion Ddraig does not seem to be fixated in revenge after his interactions with Issei

Plus Issei would not want to fight god of bible no matter how DDraig pestered him about it
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Old 2018-05-17, 02:18   Link #4232
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Well Vali's a battle maniac, so.................
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Old 2018-05-17, 10:29   Link #4233
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Rank the Hero Faction members in terms of power and strength:

1. Cao Cao- The most powerful member of the Hero faction. Possesses the strongest Longinus which he excells at using. Took down Ise, Vali, Azazel while fighting the entire ORC and 2 members of the Vali team.

2. Georg- A top class magician that has a top tier Longinus. Helped take down Saji's Dragon King form. He could defend against most attacks with the exception of Gasper's Balor form.

3. Siegfried- Possesses a relatively common SG but his Demon Swords and his skill with them put him on par with Arthur Pendragon. Defeated Xenovia & Kiba.

4. Heracles- Possesses a explosive power type SG. Defeated Rossweise and challenged Sairarog.

5. Jeanne- Defeated Irina. Later challenged Irina, Xenovia & Akeno and was able to keep up with them for a while.

6. Leonardo-Possess a high tier Longinus but lacks the ability to fully utlitise it's power.

7. Connla- Got defeated by the ORC and later Ise with a bit dificulty.

8. Marsilio- Stated to be the weakest in terms of attack power.
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Old 2018-05-17, 11:21   Link #4234
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Georg could block attacks from Gasper's Balor Form I'm sure. He just can't do anything against that world of darkness Gasper creates.
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Old 2018-05-17, 21:56   Link #4235
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while not in the hero faction, aren't arthur and ley fay descendants of heroes as well, where would they rank if they joined the hero's faction
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Old 2018-05-17, 22:13   Link #4236
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What do you think about this match:

Full Rizevim, with no problems of not being able to sleep vs Vidar without his boots.

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Old 2018-05-17, 22:47   Link #4237
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Who do you think about this match:

Full Rizevim, with no problems of not being able to sleep vs Vidar without his boots.
Rizevim, but if boots are allowed, Vidar
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Old 2018-05-18, 02:33   Link #4238
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@ dragonosman I wanted to ask as life 5 is recently translated and it states that thanatos scythe couldn't harvest Issei soul so does that mean every time Issei uses dxd mode his soul turns into infinite, even in cxc mode his soul became infinite was it because of blessings of ophis. Have issei soul became infinite
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Old 2018-05-18, 05:15   Link #4239
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His soul is infinite period which is why Thanatos or any other Grim Reaper can't cut it with their scythes. So all Thanatos could do was inflict physical blows on Issei.

And again let's not do match-up with powers and a character's srrength from.untranslated volumes.
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Old 2018-05-18, 19:07   Link #4240
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There are inaccuracies in the translation. The two I know of are on these:
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If you become a god-class…no, even if you become Maou-class, you would be able to override that ten second countdown. Otherwise, it’s not possible to fight equally against a god with just your crimson armour.
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The power that has flowed over from Ophis has definitely strengthened it. Her spawn Lilith is also by your side, and that makes the effect even more remarkable.
Better translation, courtesy of Le Fay on DxD Universe Discord:
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the first one should be something like "If your opponent is god-class...no, even if it's maou-class, they'll probably be able to wthithstand 10 second-count. And in this case just your crimson armour is not enough to fight against god-class opponents" The second one is similiar, but slighly different "It's obvious that the power recieved from Ophis is increasing at every turn. And this effect is becoming even more evidednt now that Lilith has been drawn."
But yeah, his soul is infinite.

Zxzxzx's translations are accurate for the most part, though, so please don't doubt them too much. Just, if there's a difference between a confirmed spoiler and the translation, be sure to check with someone who knows Japanese and has access to the RAWs (Zxzxzx translates from Chinese).
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