Dies Irae/Kajiri Kamui Kagura/Paradise Lost/Senshinkan series

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by devil_slayer

IIRC Marie was stated to be superior to Hajun in this game, considering how Hajun power work i don't know how this is possible, it's like saying Ren can beat wolfgang in race match xD

Most likely he is nerfed in this, maybe he isn't even hajun from KKK

I'm not that familiar with the minutiae of exactly how all this works. However, I was, for a moment (that's why I posted this) getting the feeling that this was another example of "it's a video game" logic, similar to how in fighting games all the fighters are evenly matched, even if one is far stronger in canon. Which, by the way, I would support the idea of a Dies Irae fighting game simply for amusing prospect of being able to make Bakasumi beat Reinhard into submission with a shinai XD!

That being said, making Marie superior to Hajun, not to mention the whole genre of the game were talking about, kind of breaks this whole idea.

Also, on another note, mind explaining to a non-Japanese speaker what exactly goes in the "Song to the Witch" novel?

[The End of Son]

It depends if the game is canon to the story or not. If yes then it would be a must to properly translate the characters into a game and give explanation to power levels etc.

A fighting game would be neat.

I didn't read the novel but as far I know it's about Rusalka's adventures in the cuba missile crisis.

[devil_slayer]

I would play the shit out of Shinza fighting game where all the character are there, iirc even masada said he wish good fighting game for DI

He want to Beat Kemono-dono with spinne lol

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by The End of Son

It depends if the game is canon to the story or not. If yes then it would be a must to properly translate the characters into a game and give explanation to power levels etc.

A fighting game would be neat.

I didn't read the novel but as far I know it's about Rusalka's adventures in the cuba missile crisis.

Yeah, I got that out of it as well. I heard that Marilyn Monroe is somehow involved as well, though.

Originally Posted by devil_slayer

I would play the shit out of Shinza fighting game where all the character are there, iirc even masada said he wish good fighting game for DI

He want to Beat Kemono-dono with spinne lol

Of course, any great fighting game needs unlockable, potentially overpowered secret characters:

And who better to make ironically overpowered than the most woefully outgunned character in the visual novel....

Spoiler for A new challenger approaches:

That's right, Walther Gerlitz AKA random disposable Wehrmacht soldier from the prologue is back with a vengeance!

Reinhard... Mercurius... Hajun... all will fear his Panzerfaust!

Also, also, every character needs their ending for completing story mode. Some highlights:

Spoiler for Best. Ending. Ever.:

The Snake and the Golden Beast lay dead at the feet of Rot Spinne, his all-powerful Ahnenerbe having strangled the very concept of their existence. Now no stood in the way of the ascension of to the Throne greatest god of them all. And is for Hajun... looks like Rot Spinne is going to have to choke a bitch!

Reinhard stood poised, lance at the ready, prepared to deliver the final blow and destroy Zarathustra once and for all. At moment, Kasumi Ayase burst into the throne room of Gladsheimr, shinai in hand with a shout of "GET AWAY FROM MY HASBANDO!" In a blur of bamboo and pure rage, The last thought that went through the mind of the Golden Beast that was that he had made a fatal mistake: underestimating the power of an angry tsundere.... Kasumi pointed her blood-covered shinai at Mercurius, and said in a voice of cold fury. "You're next, NEET."

Walther Gerlitz lay in the war-torn streets, mortally wounded, his soul being drawn into Schreiber's Ahnenerbe, when suddenly, he felt the power levels reverse, as is bound to happen every now and then. He seized an MG-42 that happened to be lying on the ground- not because he ever used one in the visual novel, but because MG-42s are fucking awesome. He fired the MG-42 from the hip LIKE A BOSS and reduced Schreiber to a blood stain in the pavement. Just as Reinhard's castle manifested in the skies, Walther produced a Panzerfaust out of nowhere and vaporized the entire castle, Reinhard and Mercurius included. And so, the world was saved by a Wehrmacht redshirt. Walther would then have a foursome with Rusalka, Beatrice, and Eleonore, his "other Panzerfaust" making the crimson knightess forget all about Reinhard.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by devil_slayer

BTW i been wondering about this for while, Why there 3 Guardians for marie ? in Marie's Epilogue Ren reject Snake and Snake tell him he won't see him again but there official art of the three guarding the goddess

Ren most likely got his ass kicked by hajun then Snake came to his aid and brought Kemono-dono with him is the most possible scenario or did i miss something ?

I never played KKK so i may be wrong

Because Hajun is a whole different threat level? In the end Ren, Kemono-dono and the Snake actually have respect and camaraderie for each other and all of them are still in a way, part of Marie's personal death squad (where the Snake goes, Kemono-dono won't be far behind anyway). Hajun OTOH is completely alien and bent on only destroying them.



Yeah, not like that at all. Everyone played their bit in defeating Hajun even if at the end, only the Snake survived. Kemono-dono critically noticed the Tumor's presence allowing everyone to target it. Marie ensured all of them can use their Hadou abilities without destroying each other and basically acted as the glue holding everyone together while reincarnating the Tumor away to depower Hajun. Ren held off Hajun long enough for Marie to do her thing. Snake finally reset everything, erasing Hajun and all the conditions giving rise to him from existence after Hajun had been killed. Without even one of them, it's highly unlikely the Dies crew would have beaten him.

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

Also, on another note, mind explaining to a non-Japanese speaker what exactly goes in the "Song to the Witch" novel?

The L.D.O are, in the years immediately after WWII, going around assassinating/wiping out all those who know of their existence or who are hunting them after the atrocities of WWII. Along the way, the presence of one of these threats, a group of witches, the product of a secret project of which the most notable event was the Philadelphia Experiment (yeah, don't ask) whose aim was to create artificial Ewigkeit, was discovered. Where Mercurius' Ewigkeit utilizes his power and the person's soul to merge the user with a holy relic, the artificial witch project uses the person's body. The main character of this group is Marilyn Monroe. Rusalka goes to deal with her and it ultimately becomes Rusalka vs Monroe and JFK (more lolwat, I know). After this group is crushed, the founders of the project pass over the torch of resisting the L.D.O to the Doppel Adler group (the same bunch whom Beatrice fell in battle against).

[404NotFriend]

>JFK


No, really. What?

[devil_slayer]

You don't understand what i mean, i was asking if they were together before hajun attack as the 3 guardians or snake and kemono-dono came to Ren's aid later

Having hard time believing Ren hold one bit of respect for Snake he hate his guts, every character beside Marie and Reinhard hate Snake

I was just memeing about Ren i know everyone play part in fighting hajun

[shmaster]

Yes, Rusalka planned the assassination of Kennedy.
As it was the US government that's funding the witch project.

[devil_slayer]

^What the fuck 0_o

[The End of Son]

Originally Posted by devil_slayer

You don't understand what i mean, i was asking if they were together before hajun attack as the 3 guardians or snake and kemono-dono came to Ren's aid later

Having hard time believing Ren hold one bit of respect for Snake he hate his guts, every character beside Marie and Reinhard hate Snake

I was just memeing about Ren i know everyone play part in fighting hajun

If their were together before Hajun's appearance? Highly doubt that.

I think Ren is mature enough to ignore his personal feelings and work together
with Merc. You can't choose your co-workers and Hajun isn't on a level where your personal feelings matter.

[devil_slayer]

Of course he had to accept their help, heck hajun still almost killed them all without tumor

[404NotFriend]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Yes, Rusalka planned the assassination of Kennedy.
As it was the US government that's funding the witch project.

Yes, Rusalka planned the assassination of Kennedy.

O_o I don't really know how to react to this, but this has just unexpectedly made my day. Hoo boy lol

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

The L.D.O are, in the years immediately after WWII, going around assassinating/wiping out all those who know of their existence or who are hunting them after the atrocities of WWII. Along the way, the presence of one of these threats, a group of witches, the product of a secret project of which the most notable event was the Philadelphia Experiment (yeah, don't ask) whose aim was to create artificial Ewigkeit, was discovered. Where Mercurius' Ewigkeit utilizes his power and the person's soul to merge the user with a holy relic, the artificial witch project uses the person's body. The main character of this group is Marilyn Monroe. Rusalka goes to deal with her and it ultimately becomes Rusalka vs Monroe and JFK (more lolwat, I know). After this group is crushed, the founders of the project pass over the torch of resisting the L.D.O to the Doppel Adler group (the same bunch whom Beatrice fell in battle against).

Originally Posted by shmaster

Yes, Rusalka planned the assassination of Kennedy.
As it was the US government that's funding the witch project.

I see with regard to Song of the Witch. Quite frankly, given a Dies Irae fanfic idea I have also involves rewriting history of the last 50 years, this should fit in just fine, even if it does mean the Cuban Missile Crisis is going to get even more confusing.

Just one question, again, for planning the fic, does Rusalka actually commit the JFK assassination or just manipulate someone else (insert JFK conspiracy theory joke here) into killing him?

[404NotFriend]

Plz tell me she just manipulate someone into killing JFK

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by devil_slayer

You don't understand what i mean, i was asking if they were together before hajun attack as the 3 guardians or snake and kemono-dono came to Ren's aid later

Having hard time believing Ren hold one bit of respect for Snake he hate his guts, every character beside Marie and Reinhard hate Snake

I was just memeing about Ren i know everyone play part in fighting hajun

They came together when Hajun appeared. All of them gathered their act together the moment he attacked Marie.

As for exactly how the battle went with who attacking when or backing whom up, isn't fully described until now.

There's only one person who detests the Snake that much even during KKK.....and it isn't Ren. It's Machina. The rest of them make allusions to him in bittersweet ways but not to the point of disgust that Machina shows.

[shmaster]

She just got the people to do it.

Cubsn Missile Crisis on the other hand is just one huge facade to hide the witches that were contained in Cuba.

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

They came together when Hajun appeared. All of them gathered their act together the moment he attacked Marie.

As for exactly how the battle went with who attacking when or backing whom up, isn't fully described until now.

There's only one person who detests the Snake that much even during KKK.....and it isn't Ren. It's Machina. The rest of them make allusions to him in bittersweet ways but not to the point of disgust that Machina shows.

Ren got to Marie first.
The difference between KKK and Rea route is did Hajun made it to Marie before Ren or not.
In KkK, Hajun made it first and broke Marie's law, thus doomed DI cast completely.

[devil_slayer]

^They should been Crushed regardless tbh, even yato said the different between him and Hajun was like the different between man and god and yato is far stronger than anyone in DI not to mentined hajun in KKK is weakened

I wish they reveal more details about the battle

[shmaster]

Even in the KKK route, even Kemono dono lasted long enough before gettingt taken down.
So no surprise they can turn the table in Rea route.

[devil_slayer]

Hajun claim to crush them like flies no ?