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IceHism · 2017-08-10, 16:06

It's already a novel though so it shouldn't be too hard to turn it into a game. Maybe it'll be a bit unpolished but looks like Liar isn't looking for anything big if they plan to do it this way. If she gets paid more to write fate, then it's obvious she will spend more priority on it.

shmaster · 2017-08-10, 20:59

https://twitter.com/f_nogi/status/895593741062242304
We have official news now.

Also, Sakurai's Sona-Nyl sequel doujin: Lily the Silhouette is going to get published as drama CD by Liar Soft.
https://twitter.com/liar_railsoft/st...96695260565504

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

I thought.....Steampunk as a whole has kind of left their hands ever since she went independent?

She controls pretty much all of the plot yeah.
But the world design, art direction, aesthetic and all that are the collective effort of the company.
Especially Sakurai herself is VERY lacking in art direction and aesthetic department.

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-08-10, 21:17

Oh yeah right.....music especially. Can't see RITA and composers being anything other than directly hired by Liar.

At the very least though, Teilhia is pretty short so it shouldn't be screwed up at the bottom line. What else has Nogi written?

shmaster · 2017-08-10, 23:22

He co-writes with many other Liar writers.
I know he was around since Forest.

sona-nyl · 2017-08-11, 01:08

Vulthoom is apparently also progressing so I wouldn't panic just yet. Sakurai also has said before that she wants other writers to do stuff in the Steampunk universe as well so this might be part of that. Though if it turns out Sakurai isn't writing Vulthoom either then I would be a bit worried...

shmaster · 2017-08-11, 01:13

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Originally Posted by sona-nyl

Vulthoom is apparently also progressing so I wouldn't panic just yet. Sakurai also has said before that she wants other writers to do stuff in the Steampunk universe as well so this might be part of that.

That's Shining League you are talking about...
And Sakurai is already using the ideas that's supposedly reserved for Shining League in FGO already...

TW25 · 2017-08-11, 02:00

It's good to get more steampunk, but of course there are mixed feelings with Sakurai only supervising.

I did like Fate/Extella a lot and I'm sure she's working on Extella 2 as well, so that's at least another 1 year commitment even if you forget about FGO work. Unfortunately, it seems like there's no time for steampunk this year or next year and who knows what comes after that...

All I can say is that I'll support the the steampunk series however I can and please come back to it Sakurai.

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-08-11, 03:36

Seriously, what's the last news the public has heard of Vulthoom?

sona-nyl · 2017-08-11, 06:23

Same source that announced Tyrhhia (Liar's fanclub-bulltin?) apparently mentioned that Vulthoom is progressing behind the scenes. I kinda doubt said progress is anything but minimal but it's something at least.

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-08-11, 11:19

As long as it's not the same way that Ulthar has been "progressing" for....years already

trexalfa · 2017-08-23, 21:45

Finished Sharnoth some time ago, and a bunch of questions turned up. Maybe I am missing some tidbits from the other games in the series:

Spoiler for Sharnoth spoilers:

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-08-23, 23:15

Edison is the King of the Moon and controls Oblivion Golden Eye, which is the largest fragment of Azatoth and also incidentally, forms the Moon while M is the aspect of Nyarl loyal to Azatoth. And it's not surprising for aspects of Nyarl to be fighting among themselves. A was aided by M, who gave him some of his abilities, notably, Howler in the Dark.

shmaster · 2017-08-23, 23:18

Nyarlathotep is a the chaos with many faces. The the collective whole that is Nyarl can have as many as identity possible.
Edison is the Nyarl from our world, the historical world. He had devoured Yog Sototh and gained the power over time and space.
M is the Nyarlathotep of Steampunk world, the knight of A.Z.T.T.
Baron is the Nyarl that splits from M.
Also, A is the newest Nyarlathoep that's still growing.

Also, it is Critter, not Creature.
The difference between Critter and Meta=Critter are not very clear.
But from what we can observe, a Critter is a degradation/demonization of fantasy that took from through Cracking.
While Meta=Critter are Cracking Beings manifested by the will of specific people that took the form of fantasy.
Emerald Tablet in general is the easiest short cut to produce Critters.

Banshee is Charlie's Meta=Critter, that's why the research group is monitoring it.

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-08-23, 23:20

A is a Nyarl also? He's primarily a reflection of Alan no?

shmaster · 2017-08-23, 23:42

He is made of Alan's "knowledge", but the material composed of him is M and Edison's chaos.
That's why M bothered to took interest in A in the first place and gave him Howler in the Dark.
A brand new entity that is stable in exercising the "black" of the Nyarlathotep, and thus worthy to wield his avatar.

You know how A often gave an one word answer to some of Lily questions and then just stop there?
That's not because A knows the answer, but rather the answer bounces off from the chaos he is connected to like a reflex upon hearing Lily's questions. And A just sop there because he doesn't know what to say next as the few words that reflexively outputted by the chaos is all that he knows.

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-08-24, 00:00

Tick Tack Man's I can understand since A is a creation of Sona-Nyl but that would make him no different from any of the entities in the Underground NY....so how did M's essence even get there in the first place

shmaster · 2017-08-24, 00:09

That beats me, honestly.
Though technically he is not the same as other inhabitants of the underground. He is not a memory. Or should I say that he doesn't have any in the first place.

trexalfa · 2017-08-30, 20:03

Spoiler for Some Gahkthun stuff:

shmaster · 2017-08-30, 23:02

They get their golden eye by making contract with the Bell.

And since the Golden King is the bell, he is literally sucking away the gold of the students that made contract with him.

404NotFriend · 2017-09-01, 02:49

So it make some kind of feedback loop ?

2017-08-10, 21:17	Link #143
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	Oh yeah right.....music especially. Can't see RITA and composers being anything other than directly hired by Liar. At the very least though, Teilhia is pretty short so it shouldn't be screwed up at the bottom line. What else has Nogi written? __________________

2017-08-11, 01:08	Link #145
sona-nyl Actually an Alligator Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 28	Vulthoom is apparently also progressing so I wouldn't panic just yet. Sakurai also has said before that she wants other writers to do stuff in the Steampunk universe as well so this might be part of that. Though if it turns out Sakurai isn't writing Vulthoom either then I would be a bit worried... __________________

2017-08-11, 03:36	Link #148
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	Seriously, what's the last news the public has heard of Vulthoom? __________________

2017-08-11, 06:23	Link #149
sona-nyl Actually an Alligator Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 28	Same source that announced Tyrhhia (Liar's fanclub-bulltin?) apparently mentioned that Vulthoom is progressing behind the scenes. I kinda doubt said progress is anything but minimal but it's something at least. __________________

2017-08-11, 11:19	Link #150
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	As long as it's not the same way that Ulthar has been "progressing" for....years already __________________

2017-08-10, 16:06	Link #141
IceHism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	It's already a novel though so it shouldn't be too hard to turn it into a game. Maybe it'll be a bit unpolished but looks like Liar isn't looking for anything big if they plan to do it this way. If she gets paid more to write fate, then it's obvious she will spend more priority on it.

2017-08-10, 23:22	Link #144
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	He co-writes with many other Liar writers. I know he was around since Forest.

2017-08-11, 02:00	Link #147
TW25 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	It's good to get more steampunk, but of course there are mixed feelings with Sakurai only supervising. I did like Fate/Extella a lot and I'm sure she's working on Extella 2 as well, so that's at least another 1 year commitment even if you forget about FGO work. Unfortunately, it seems like there's no time for steampunk this year or next year and who knows what comes after that... All I can say is that I'll support the the steampunk series however I can and please come back to it Sakurai.

2017-08-23, 21:45	Link #151
trexalfa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014	Finished Sharnoth some time ago, and a bunch of questions turned up. Maybe I am missing some tidbits from the other games in the series: Spoiler for Sharnoth spoilers: So, what's the relationship between M and Edison? Both are Nyarlathotep as I understand it, how come? The Rough Guide to Steampunk World didn't make the issue all that clear (it said Baron was Nyarlathotep too, but again he and M are both the "Black King", just split after taking the Professor's body). I've heard stuff about them coming from different worlds, but that still isn't all that clear to me. How does A from Sona Nyl mix into all of this? Second, does any material explain the exact circunstances behind the manifestation of a Metacreature? I gathered so far that they are Cracking Beings that incarnate the feelings of the research group, but these circunstances M mentions are needed to manifest them... I guess the Green Stones mentioned in Inganock's WN are somehow thrown into the mix, and maybe Charlie too. Why was the Banshee wandering around, and why were the Diogenes Club (via Holmes) and the Germanenorden (via Heinz, who was also in the research group) monitoring it? Jane somewhat hinted it housed Charlie's will while she slept

2017-08-23, 23:15	Link #152
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	Edison is the King of the Moon and controls Oblivion Golden Eye, which is the largest fragment of Azatoth and also incidentally, forms the Moon while M is the aspect of Nyarl loyal to Azatoth. And it's not surprising for aspects of Nyarl to be fighting among themselves. A was aided by M, who gave him some of his abilities, notably, Howler in the Dark. __________________

2017-08-23, 23:18	Link #153
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	Nyarlathotep is a the chaos with many faces. The the collective whole that is Nyarl can have as many as identity possible. Edison is the Nyarl from our world, the historical world. He had devoured Yog Sototh and gained the power over time and space. M is the Nyarlathotep of Steampunk world, the knight of A.Z.T.T. Baron is the Nyarl that splits from M. Also, A is the newest Nyarlathoep that's still growing. Also, it is Critter, not Creature. The difference between Critter and Meta=Critter are not very clear. But from what we can observe, a Critter is a degradation/demonization of fantasy that took from through Cracking. While Meta=Critter are Cracking Beings manifested by the will of specific people that took the form of fantasy. Emerald Tablet in general is the easiest short cut to produce Critters. Banshee is Charlie's Meta=Critter, that's why the research group is monitoring it.

2017-08-23, 23:20	Link #154
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	A is a Nyarl also? He's primarily a reflection of Alan no? __________________

2017-08-23, 23:42	Link #155
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	He is made of Alan's "knowledge", but the material composed of him is M and Edison's chaos. That's why M bothered to took interest in A in the first place and gave him Howler in the Dark. A brand new entity that is stable in exercising the "black" of the Nyarlathotep, and thus worthy to wield his avatar. You know how A often gave an one word answer to some of Lily questions and then just stop there? That's not because A knows the answer, but rather the answer bounces off from the chaos he is connected to like a reflex upon hearing Lily's questions. And A just sop there because he doesn't know what to say next as the few words that reflexively outputted by the chaos is all that he knows.

2017-08-24, 00:00	Link #156
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	Tick Tack Man's I can understand since A is a creation of Sona-Nyl but that would make him no different from any of the entities in the Underground NY....so how did M's essence even get there in the first place __________________

2017-08-24, 00:09	Link #157
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	That beats me, honestly. Though technically he is not the same as other inhabitants of the underground. He is not a memory. Or should I say that he doesn't have any in the first place.

2017-08-30, 20:03	Link #158
trexalfa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014	Spoiler for Some Gahkthun stuff: Is it explained anywhere where did the Golden Eyes of the Sinister Six come from? I'm reading they are fakes in the internet but I don't know where the info comes from. And speaking of eyes, was Golden King taking them from previous Council members? How does that fit in with his whole "sleep inside Bell, get fed with wishes and sacrifices till maturation is achieved" plan?

2017-08-30, 23:02	Link #159
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	They get their golden eye by making contract with the Bell. And since the Golden King is the bell, he is literally sucking away the gold of the students that made contract with him.

2017-09-01, 02:49	Link #160
404NotFriend Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: South Eastern side of things	So it make some kind of feedback loop ?