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Old 2016-08-01, 03:17   Link #1621
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That's one of the reason why I wish to see him as Illya's love-interest.
Sorry, but that impossible, the only possible for this pairing is to manifest in fanfic or doujin but 100% impossible to happen in canon as much that i want Gil to go to Illya world and become transfer student in Illya school that sadly 100% impossible.
Gil is golden boy of fate series, his ego is extremely extreme the only woman he has feeling to known was Saber and him only close to genderless Enkidu.
Plus to ship GilxIllya would be awkward when you think what Gil had done to Illya in UBW.
I can't see how romantic interest could canonically happen between them, on otherhand JulianxIllya might can happen because Illya seem has sympathy to Julian motive and it has been implied Julian is not totally bad guy.
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Old 2016-08-04, 01:24   Link #1622
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Sorry, but that impossible, the only possible for this pairing is to manifest in fanfic or doujin but 100% impossible to happen in canon as much that i want Gil to go to Illya world and become transfer student in Illya school that sadly 100% impossible.
Gil is golden boy of fate series, his ego is extremely extreme the only woman he has feeling to known was Saber and him only close to genderless Enkidu.
Plus to ship GilxIllya would be awkward when you think what Gil had done to Illya in UBW.
I can't see how romantic interest could canonically happen between them, on otherhand JulianxIllya might can happen because Illya seem has sympathy to Julian motive and it has been implied Julian is not totally bad guy.
Except , Gil and other character are different from their actual Fate incarnation.

Plus , I except Gil to respect Illya the Most Since she did defeated him.
Not to mention , She was the 1st person he met upon being born.
His first memory of this world is Illya grabbing on to his ............
Imagine him telling his kids about How He Met Their Mother.
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Old 2016-08-04, 10:46   Link #1623
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It will be Epic and Awkward at the same time , but I am in the Miyu/Illya ship.
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Old 2016-08-05, 05:36   Link #1624
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Except , Gil and other character are different from their actual Fate incarnation.


No they are not. They might live in different circumstances but they are same people.

That is ESPECIALLY true for Gil sine he is a heroic spirit, thus there's nothing to indicate he is not the same one(since there's only one throne of heroes in multiverse and only one heroic spirit of each saved)
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Old 2016-08-05, 07:37   Link #1625
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No they are not. They might live in different circumstances but they are same people.

That is ESPECIALLY true for Gil sine he is a heroic spirit, thus there's nothing to indicate he is not the same one(since there's only one throne of heroes in multiverse and only one heroic spirit of each saved)
While Fate Extra implies that Servants like Archer and Lancer remember each other it is different as it isn't the Fuyuki grail system, based on the Moon Cell's own recordings.

Saber remembers the previous grail war due to her own unique circumstance. Archer well he is from an alternate reality.

The Fuyuki system basically summons copies from the Throne of Heroes as it is impossible for a magi to summon a true heroic spirit. This is why even if a Servant is summoned for several Holy Grail Wars they do not have memory of the previous one. Again Arturia is the exception.
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Old 2016-08-05, 07:49   Link #1626
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While Fate Extra implies that Servants like Archer and Lancer remember each other it is different as it isn't the Fuyuki grail system, based on the Moon Cell's own recordings.

Saber remembers the previous grail war due to her own unique circumstance. Archer well he is from an alternate reality.

The Fuyuki system basically summons copies from the Throne of Heroes as it is impossible for a magi to summon a true heroic spirit. This is why even if a Servant is summoned for several Holy Grail Wars they do not have memory of the previous one. Again Arturia is the exception.
That's not how it works.

Knowing =/= experiencing.

F/E does not
Spoiler for FE spoiler sort of:


Saber and Archer
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In case of normal heroic spirits, data in throne of heroes is copied onto a vessel and deleted after the vessel falls apart.
Either way - Heroic Spirits DO have access to information about what is happening in history since Throne of Heroes is outside space and time, unaffected by it. SO they can KNOW how their copies fared and what they did but it is not same as EXPERIENCING it. And the copies summoned are untainted by that knowledge. They gain knowledge of the era upon summoning.

Also saying "alternate reality " is not correct as a reason since Throne of Heroes exists as one for whole multiverse. Every heroic spirit in throne might be from different worlds, but there's only one spirit of each hero. That's why summoning
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Old 2016-08-06, 08:55   Link #1627
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A couple years ago, I thought Saber and Merlin would make a cameo in 3rei because Gil was in it. Besides, Merlin can still exist in this manga (even he's locked up in that tower). He has familiar that allows him to see and communicate in the outside world. I forgot what familiar's name was.

Even though it would make sense to introduce Ruler to this series, having a Saber and Merlin cameo wouldn't be bad. I made a lot jokes about conversations that Illya and Merlin would have.
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Old 2016-08-18, 04:04   Link #1628
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It will be Epic and Awkward at the same time , but I am in the Miyu/Illya ship.
Off course , The most luckiest guy would be the one to marry Kuro.
Just imagine a tanned pink haired version of Irisviel.
I don't think it will be Shirou since both Illya and Kuro are too young for him.
Actually , I want Shirou to pick Sakura in this series ! Considering that Sakura does have a root but its too freaking dark for me to Watch.

I have this theory about Tanaka.
What if she is just a Female version of Shirou ?
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Old 2016-08-18, 13:25   Link #1629
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Off course , The most luckiest guy would be the one to marry Kuro.
Just imagine a tanned pink haired version of Irisviel.
I don't think it will be Shirou since both Illya and Kuro are too young for him.
Actually , I want Shirou to pick Sakura in this series ! Considering that Sakura does have a root but its too freaking dark for me to Watch.

I have this theory about Tanaka.
What if she is just a Female version of Shirou ?
Nonsense, ShirouXIlya will succeed, the power of wincest will prevail!
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Old 2016-08-19, 05:49   Link #1630
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Incredible chapter. How Shirou managed these feats was finally explained: Miyu had been supplying him with mana all along.
Miyu is an unlimited mana source..?
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Old 2016-08-19, 07:37   Link #1631
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Miyu is an unlimited mana source..?
Any grail is. Alongside the wishing feature which ensures that. Why do you think Illya could pull off what she did against Saber alter or offset EA's destructive power and stuff?

Alas, unlimited mana or not, the moment you let Gil counter attack, you lose.
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Old 2016-08-23, 16:37   Link #1632
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LOL, the first doujinshi featuring Miyuverse Shirou. FINALLY! What took them this long? xD
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Old 2016-08-23, 20:41   Link #1633
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Actually, was it explained HOW Miyu supplied Shirou with prana?

We got a lot of fluid exchange via Kuro but Shiro just comes in and pulls it off this easy?
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Old 2016-08-23, 21:23   Link #1634
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LOL, the first doujinshi featuring Miyuverse Shirou. FINALLY! What took them this long? xD
Well, probably because that doujin is drawn by Hiroyama's assistant (yes, for real), who really likes Miyuverse Shirou.

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I believe that Miyu's wish for blood connection caused also prana connection, moreless similar to which Shirou has with Rin in UBW route.
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Old 2016-08-23, 23:17   Link #1635
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Well, probably because that doujin is drawn by Hiroyama's assistant (yes, for real), who really likes Miyuverse Shirou.


I believe that Miyu's wish for blood connection caused also prana connection, moreless similar to which Shirou has with Rin in UBW route.
REALLY?! At least MiyuXOnii-chan is semi-canon. xD
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Old 2016-08-24, 12:52   Link #1636
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I feel sorry with Illya for having useless Shirou..
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Old 2016-08-24, 17:05   Link #1637
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I feel sorry with Illya for having useless Shirou..
THe Shirous just have to combine, as a "Onii-chan meister", I am not really favouring Ilya doing it with Miyuverse Shirou when Ilya was thinking of her own brother, because it had a bit of an NTR like feel to it.
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Old 2016-08-24, 17:07   Link #1638
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They're 11. That should matter more than an NTR-like feel.
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Old 2016-08-25, 07:56   Link #1639
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They're 11. That should matter more than an NTR-like feel.
Age means NOTHING in the face of TRUE Love.

And besides, 11 and 16 is not TOO big of a gap.
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Old 2016-08-25, 09:08   Link #1640
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