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Old 2016-03-03, 13:25   Link #8081
Rasen
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Finally unlocked 804, just wanted to ask: by any chance are any of the Servants weak to insta-kill? I ask because Saber Shiki is an available support, and I have to ask myself why.
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Old 2016-03-03, 13:33   Link #8082
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Don't! They are not a weak to it and Void herself is in disadvantage against EMYA.
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Old 2016-03-03, 13:56   Link #8083
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Only the most badass will take Void Shiki to that fight. Do it!!!
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Old 2016-03-03, 14:06   Link #8084
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Finally unlocked 804, just wanted to ask: by any chance are any of the Servants weak to insta-kill? I ask because Saber Shiki is an available support, and I have to ask myself why.
Void Shiki with maxed Eyes will give you about 40% chance average Insta kill on Servants. But bosses like this have extremely low death rate, so don't even hope.
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Old 2016-03-03, 14:33   Link #8085
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I don't see how you can toss out a number like 40% when there's no way to know what the server-side death rate is for enemy Servants. Unless you've data-logged hundreds or thousands of trials, that is.
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Old 2016-03-03, 14:54   Link #8086
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I don't see how you can toss out a number like 40% when there's no way to know what the server-side death rate is for enemy Servants. Unless you've data-logged hundreds or thousands of trials, that is.
I think that was a mistake. He probably meant 40% death rate instead of 40% death rate against servant. seeing he also said that bosses have low chance of instant death after that (which servant isn't a boss / mini-boss, anyway =p)
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Old 2016-03-03, 14:57   Link #8087
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But her stats have been data-mined. We know her exact percentages (60% at 100% overcharge up to 100% at 500% overcharge, with her skill granting 60% to 80% death resistance down depending on its level). We also know the formula used for calculating insta-death.

The only thing we don't know is the server-side death rate.
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Old 2016-03-03, 14:57   Link #8088
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I don't see how you can toss out a number like 40% when there's no way to know what the server-side death rate is for enemy Servants. Unless you've data-logged hundreds or thousands of trials, that is.
I assume that servants not considered event/storyline bosses have the same death rate as the same normal Servants. Of cause I can be mistaken.
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Old 2016-03-03, 15:34   Link #8089
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The only way to test that would be doing the dailies and have Shiki NP them.
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Old 2016-03-03, 18:21   Link #8090
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So like a wuss I checkened out and got myself a nice Gilgamesh support for the fight.

Holy jeebus, Santa Alter is powerful. I ended up using one CS to heal up and give myself peace of mind for the fight, but she does terrible, terrible things to steampunk. "What's that you say? You have 85,000 HP? Awww, that's so cuuuute."
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Old 2016-03-03, 19:32   Link #8091
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Boo~ bullying Babbagetron, its not his fault DW made him an offensive Caster but screwed over his stats with his ATK not even reaching 6k.

Actually raised mine to max lv.70 & sent him to beat the giant ghost with his giant dril mallet thing...he needed healing support though, it was a long fight.
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Old 2016-03-03, 21:10   Link #8092
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I just get Franskenstein from my 1 roll today.
right now i have 6 golden servant, one 5* and five 4*.
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I already completed all mission and almost emptied the shop, right now i want to farm forbidden page for Nursery Rhyme ascension.
I want to ask Where the best place to farm forbidden page ?
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Old 2016-03-03, 21:27   Link #8093
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I just get Franskenstein from my 1 roll today.
right now i have 6 golden servant, one 5* and five 4*.
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Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?
I already completed all mission and almost emptied the shop, right now i want to farm forbidden page for Nursery Rhyme ascension.
I want to ask Where the best place to farm forbidden page ?
There fixed the image for you, good for being new in the game. You can hit crystal palace in London to farm page.
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Old 2016-03-03, 21:31   Link #8094
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Void Shiki with maxed Eyes will give you about 40% chance average Insta kill on Servants. But bosses like this have extremely low death rate, so don't even hope.
I heard somewhere that the death rate of "event bosses" is at about 2-3%.
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Old 2016-03-03, 21:33   Link #8095
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I'm planning to reverse estimate the death rate by doing 50 or more runs on a boss this weekend if I feel motivated enough. I already have MEoDP for Assassin at 10 as well. Which boss should I try? I guess I'm swayed towards Marie as I can do her stage fast even if I failed.
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Old 2016-03-03, 22:10   Link #8096
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McW thanks for the advice, curently finished white chapel in london right now.
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Old 2016-03-03, 22:13   Link #8097
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I heard somewhere that the death rate of "event bosses" is at about 2-3%.
Assuming its 2%, MEPD at lv10 and 200% overcharge with Assa Shiki

IK = 1.1*0.02*(1+1);

IK= 0.044 = 4.4%

Sightly better that get a 4* out of a yolo huh...
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Old 2016-03-03, 23:15   Link #8098
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the lvl 90 quest is a joke, a really bad joke.

it's extremely hard! room 804 was muuuuch easier (sarcasm inside)
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Old 2016-03-03, 23:58   Link #8099
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the lvl 90 quest is a joke, a really bad joke.

it's extremely hard! room 804 was muuuuch easier (sarcasm inside)
Not the case when your best archer is Arash. Even if you kill her with your Stella! you still lose.
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Old 2016-03-04, 00:12   Link #8100
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DW should've counted that as a win. Sure all your servants are dead but hey you're (master) still alive
Poor Arash. His sacrifice was in vain.
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