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View Poll Results: Penguin Drum - Episode 19 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 23 | 31.94% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 27 | 37.50% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 15.28% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 6.94% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 4.17% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 4.17% | |
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-11-23, 04:29 | Link #101 | ||
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I means when her family seems not be able to save her (Tabuki's incident), she didn't wishes that her knight will come to save her somehow (the way Ringo did). But planned to face it head on. So i think the family has always been her last stronghold.... until the recent development at least (that's why i say it's too early to tell) Quote:
I means that's a not an easy decision to make, and if she needs someone to pat on her back to follow it till the end; that does not mean she is always a coward and run away when facing problems
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2011-11-23, 04:49 | Link #102 | |
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The point is that Himari is 14 and she's still looking for external validation. She's still running away, and I bet you whatever you want that using her "fated one" to avoid facing reality will end up triggering the climax of the story. Mark my words: shit is going to start getting serious in episode 21. Even if it's just a moment of discourage, it still shows the fundamental weakness to her character. If she can't even manage to do that, let alone trying to meet them and patching things up with them.
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2011-11-23, 06:42 | Link #103 | |
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I think you have been emphasizing too much on how Himari meeting up with her friends is the solution that Himari must overcome. Remember the "super frog saving Tokyo" episode, and what Sanetoshi asked her? We still do not know what distanced her from her friends. I knows we can assume that:
I think you not only didn't consider her young age but also has been too underestimating Himari. This girl has been facing illness and death since as early as ten years old, while being isolated and despised by the society. But then she still could find the will to be cheerful and live her life, just so her brothers don't have to worry. After all, have one faced death, the fear of things like shames or pride would hardly be matter. If she runs away at every sight of troubles like you say, she would has been bedridden and isolated herself within the four hospital walls.
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2011-11-23, 07:39 | Link #104 | ||
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The way I see it, the whole concept of "fated love" in this show is build on the idea of avoiding reality and depending on someone else's acceptance for self-validation. More than depicting this concept as romantic, the show seems to treat it almost ironically. I have no reason to believe Himari's case is different. In fact, everything seems to point that is more of the same thing. Quote:
Anyway, I'm pretty convinced now that the recent developments surrendering Himari are going to trigger the climax, so just wait and see. If I'm right, this is going to be a hell of a roller coaster, specially when/if it's revealed that Sanetoshi wanted/needed Himari to remember her "fated one" all along for his plan to work.
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2011-11-24, 00:07 | Link #105 | ||
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The case of Himari is different. Shouma didn't actually save Himari from anything, or at least it's just secondary. What he did was sharing the (fruit of) fate with her and therefore is the only true 'fated person' in this anime. That does not necessary will turn to romantic development (maybe for some confusing moments till near the very end), as it's still possible for siblings to be brought together by fates In short: Yuri and Tabuki's "fated one"is simply like Ringo's, a romantic manner of speak to indicate someone they clearly love and should be connected by destiny. While Himari and Shouma is simply connected by the fate of the system. Quote:
If staying away from her friend is a sight of weakness that she want to and will have to overcome, you win this round. If not (she sacrifice her contact for the friends career), you have to vote for little Himari in the coming favourite character poll
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2011-11-24, 11:11 | Link #106 |
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I wonder why the hell Kanba lied about knowing where his parents are. Smells pretty fishy.
Ffff, just when I thought Kanba and Himari could be together because they aren't siblings - Himari decides Shou is her soulmate. The hell?! |
2011-12-05, 01:42 | Link #107 |
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I haven't been posting in this subforum because I've been trying to digest all the stuff that's been shown in the last few episodes. It's also to avoid the redundant "Amazing episode for an amazing show" raving that'd I'd constantly have to write.
There are three little bits that I found particularly noteworthy. The first is the scenes with Yuri in them. In a show where people lie all the time, their actions can sometimes tell us a lot more about them than their conversations can. And sometimes, even a simple line like the one Yuri uttered can mean so much. The second moment came when Masako tried to shoot Himari with the memory ball. At that point, I wanted her to succeed. It's not a matter of wanting Himari to come to harm. Instead, I was just so invested in the story that I wanted to know what had happened. The last was when Himari ran up to the wall with the fans. Right then, I felt exactly the same as Himari. The same sense of realization, the same sense of dread. It's really rare for a show to build up that much resonance - it's a real accomplishment.
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