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Perfect 10 | 40 | 33.06% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 40 | 33.06% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 29 | 23.97% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 6.61% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.65% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.83% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.83% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-02-07, 18:58 | Link #281 | |
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And you know what? I'd be surprised if any morally-good people didn't get pissed off at Kyoko. Look at what happened to Uncle Ben when Peter didn't catch the thief.
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2011-02-08, 02:05 | Link #282 |
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I think it was a violin. The song gets a "deep" feeling because Kamijou is playing mostly on the lower strings. Also, the song doesn't go beyond the lowest note a violin can play.
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2011-02-08, 05:55 | Link #283 |
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Everyone keeps thinking how Kyubei screw around Sayaka's wish (Kamijo's arm is healed by he cannot play the violin....etc). Had anyone thought of that Kyubei's wish is actually fair? Kamijo will recover fully in no time. But then Kamijo will likely say goodbye to Sayaka in the fashion of "I am going to Germany for a tour. Here is a ticket. Come see me play if you have time" and then Kamijo left Sayaka's life which Sayaka will be unhappy and things will happen.
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2011-02-08, 12:46 | Link #284 | |
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2011-02-08, 13:37 | Link #285 |
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Haven't you ever read in phlosophies that morality is emergant and subjective? It is naive to assume that what you consider as morally-good coincides with anyone else's, it can, but that does neither make true or correct. Kyouko is just cynically practical, and frankly more down to earth than self-proclaimed champions of justice.
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2011-02-08, 15:41 | Link #286 | |
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Mami is in about to die, she wish to live, Kyubei grant it to her. She lives. Mami, however, lives an unhappy life, both because of losing her family, and because the MG job make her feel lonely. Why couldn't Mami, when making her wish, states that I want to be alive and happy! (Will that count as two wishes? ) How about rewording it as I want to live a happy life until 100 years old. This wish implied living and happy, and it sounds like one wish I know I know, I am just teasing here. Mami is 5 sec to death and she probably didn't think too deeply. But Kyubei is shown giving time to MG to think about their wishes (Sayaka and Madoka). They should have come up with a perfectly worded wish instead of blaming the wish granter when things went wrong. Kinda like people who blame they win the lottery and brought them misfortune. The lottery (Kyubei) is not at fault, the winner (MG) are if they get into trouble afterwards. (poor finance management/ poorly worded wish)
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2011-02-08, 20:20 | Link #287 | |
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2011-02-08, 21:14 | Link #288 | |
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I don't think I'd characterize Kyoko as evil. Her position, at least so far, is intellectually defensible. It does make some pragmatic sense. But it is a very cold position, and perhaps a heartless one. So, on the whole, I much prefer Sayaka's position, even if it is a little bit naive. I'd rather have people that are a bit naive but very well-intentioned, then people that are very "with it" but only care about themselves.
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2011-02-09, 05:09 | Link #289 |
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Homura being from the future seems very much possible and her concern towards Madoka, trying to kill Kyubey before he got to her in the 1st episode might also indicate that she is related to Madoka in some way like her daughter or granddaughter
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2011-02-09, 16:57 | Link #293 | |
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Such a stylish power, too... Withstood loneliness to create many guns, yet, those hands will never hold anything.
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2011-02-09, 17:23 | Link #294 | |
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Knowing Urobuchi, (as I always say) it's better for Mami to stay death or she will be granted even disgusting hell.
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2011-02-09, 19:09 | Link #295 |
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It seems that there is another hidden clause in the wish: you can't do any action that contradicts (either the spirit or the letter of) your wish. If you wish for a crippled someone to get better, you can't do action that harm him or her even if he or she is an asshole. Which is why Mami warned Sayaka against wishing for others. You can't control other people, at least not entirely. Similarly, Mami wished to live, live, and live. This is why she can't be melancholic, ever, even if catharsis would have been for the better of her psyche.
As for Homerun, it seems that in the previous world she wished for Madoka to be spared of the fate of a magical girl. So anything that bare even the smallest hint of the existence of magical girls to Madoka, _Homura_ can't do. Note that this applies to Homura and Homura only, nothing prevents Kyubey from offering the exaltation to Madoka or Mami to explain the things about MGs, partially or entirely, to Madoka. Of course, by the rule, Kyubey can't suggest what Madoka should wish for, but he definitely can arrange for situation where a wish would be appropriate. And boy, sure he has a lot of cards up his furry sleeves. Since Madoka is potentially much more powerful than other MGs, he doesn't care if Sayaka or Kyouko is going to be killed in his scheme. They are his pawns. On Homura's side, she had the chance to kill Kyubey (and probably Mami too) _before_ the creepy critter get the chance to meet Madoka in person. But she failed at that. Now she can't kill Kyubey without antagonizing Madoka (and Sayaka), for the little devil presented itself as an ally to them. On the other hand, now that Kyubey and Mami divulged the information about MGs, nothing prevent Homura from _expanding_ the existing information to Madoka, as long as she doesn't drop a new basic information. she hopes that Madoka will be mentally scarred enough to never consider becoming an MG. Crapola, now i imagine Homura applying flute to Madoka's- *is nearly banned for divulging information about KnM*
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2011-02-09, 19:12 | Link #296 |
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I personally think that we will see Mami again. She is still in the opening theme and in the official artwork. I doubt she would just be thrown out after 3 episodes. In my opinion, I believe that Madoka is going to become an MG so that she can wish for Mami to return.
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2011-02-09, 19:29 | Link #297 | |
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That guy never came back. Well, not in a clear-cut "it's not a dream" way, anyway... Here's a key, though - Madoka Magica might get a new, or slightly altered, OP for Episodes 7 on (I'm just saying this based on precedent throughout anime as a whole). If that happens, look for Mami in it. If she's not there, she's almost certainly not coming back. If she is there, then I'm with you, lol.
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2011-02-09, 19:55 | Link #298 |
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While I'm one of those who want Mami to come back as well, Gen Urobuchi has gone on to mention relatively recently on his Twitter that, had Madoka been greenlit 26 episodes instead of the 12 it had now, we WOULD be seeing Mami again... Or lookalikes anyway, to mess with Madoka's mind (he mentioned a waitress at a cafe, or a lifeguard at the beach as examples). So, don't trust the current OP.
As for this episode, I've already said my thoughts about it elsewhere. I'm looking forward to the one after this more, if only so we could see how Homura diffuses the situation between Kyoko and Sakuya.
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2011-02-09, 20:16 | Link #299 |
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Wait... did Urobuchi intend for Madoka to be 26 episodes, but it was for some reason cut down to 12? That's not too far from what happened with Angel Beats, except I think we're losing more here since I'm enjoying Madoka far more than I did Angel Beats (Though that show ruled also).
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2011-02-09, 20:40 | Link #300 | |
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