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Originally Posted by ForwardUntoDawn

I'm honestly hoping for a quick BD release: the wait's been killer so far, and I just want to watch this movie now (Cineplex has no plans on playing it where I am so far)

Come to think of it, is not a single denizen of this thread able to even watch the thing and provide even a two word tweet of it?

Spoiler for From Japanese sites:

Scrolling random Japanese sites, so far it seems that it is a typical GuP product in that a rather bland plot is pulled through by superior execution.

What seems to have happened is that all we ever got to see is the Exhibition, and the meat is the MEXT going back on its word and the school is being shut down. They are actually chased out of the school and we are supposed to see some interesting scenes of them while they were forced to refuge in a former land school.

Originally Posted by My thoughts

That was rough... the part that they would go back on their word was predicted by cynics from way back but I bet even those people would think the MEXT will do it in a more graceful, gradual manner of letting them live through the school year.

I can really see why some viewers were unhappy with this development. It is simply NOT a good idea to recook issues like this, and even considering the compression of a movie, this is just not very plausible!

Anyway, a deal was eventually cut where if they win against a 30-tank university team (that's all those characters whose affiliations have not been announced), this time the board will keep its promises (according to some viewers, Shiho FINALLY does something decent in this show and helped cut this deal.

Cue everyone lining up to join Oarai. Meh. The execution was supposedly brilliant and impressed most, but some did think the tank battles have been pushed too far to the unrealistic edge this time.

In any case, it definitely sounds like something that would sink or swim based on detailed execution only.

Originally Posted by D-Joe

Sounds like a minor complaining when compare to most reviews.
http://movies.yahoo.co.jp/movie/351822/
Plus, i bet your "random site" is just Yaraon.

Reading 2ch give me this impression:

Spoiler for One of most fit reply from 2ch:

「劇場版ガルパンってどんな映画なの？」と尋ねられたらこう答えればいい
If someone ask you "how is Girls and Panzer movie?" you can respond with this answer:

『戦車版マッドマックス4 怒りのデス・ロード』
"Tank version of Mad Max: Fury Road."

To be honest, I wasn't really looking at the address bar. Looking back, there were a I think I got most of the information here:
http://yusaani.com/special/2015/11/21/226903/

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I've heard of that Mad Max one too

Checking the history ... yeah, it is Yaraon, and the webcache at that, though I do think this guy had a valid point

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名前：名無しさん投稿日：2015年11月21日

初回見てきたけど微妙
脚本はボロボロというかまさかの廃校掘り直し
あと戦闘シーン長すぎで途中寝そうになった
殲滅戦であれだけ尺取るなら前半のエキシビジョンは
クレジット提供と同時に終わって良かったと思うわ
直前までTVシリーズとOVA見てたから、ハードルあげ過ぎたかな、ちょっと残念
因みに場所は甲府だけど客入りは７割くらいだったかな

and this part of this one

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劇場版は一言でいうと蛇足
廃校問題についてはTVシリーズできっちり終わらせてほしかった
話を作るためにまたこれを持ち出したかという感じ
最終回の感動が薄くなるじゃないか

Originally Posted by Marina2

To think that I have wait for about 3 months+ after reading this....

Let's try to have a conversation using material that's available:

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Originally Posted by GuP Movie review by anon

- Alice, the new loli, is actually a university student and the the captain of the university team. Also her tank is Centurion and she is indeed good.

The Centurion appears in such a form. If only Darjeeling knew about her Little Army fangirl Killmanjaro and Miho knew her friend had returned from Germany (it's about this period) - they could increase their forces by 1 Centurion, a T-44, an Elefant, a Jadgpanther and a Tiger I.

- The opponent team is consisted of mostly Pershings, along with the captain's Centurion, a T-28 and, believe me or not, Mörser Karl. The best line-up so far.

A better translation from what I'm hearing is "University All-Stars Team" (大学選抜チーム).

And that's a bit misleading. It is not a harmless T-28 (USSR). It is a nearly cheating T28 (US).

- The MVP of the day goes to Anzio. I am not even kidding here. Anchovy, Carpaccio, and Pepperoni performed the best reconnaissance and the victory would have been impossible without their contribution. Italy should be proud.

Well, I always thought Pepperoni and Anchovy ain't that bad. If anything, I was a bit disappointed at Carpaccio last round but if she is the calm one this time I'm not objecting.

Basically, the movie is in the "Type-89" dilemma. The only things you can use the Type 89 for are recce and acrobatics. It seems they went for both in the film.

- The last showdown is between Miho (Panzer IV) and Maho (Tiger1) vs. Alice (Centurion). It is definitely on par with the final battle of the TV series.

A very stereotypical GuP ending, but I must wonder at the University Team. The fact the battle ended in basically mutual annihilation though the University Team had the superior tanks and the cohesive,, practiced team suggests that when all is said and done, they are overall at best equal in individual abilities to the best High School Students. The future of Senshado might not be looking so bright

- Maho has a Panzer II at home and, according to Miho's flashback, Maho used to take her sister out for drive with her Panzer II. The loli Maho diving Panzer II is the cutest thing of the whole movie.

- Thanks to the United High Schools Team, you can see the members of other teams dressed up in the Ooarai school uniform, though they later change to their usual ones.[/quote]

Need LEAK.

On other comments, one negative note I have to make on this film from what I'm hearing so far, is that they've broken away from the "No Real Bad People in GuP" rule.

Sure, Erika was a bit snotty. Katyusha is a bit bratty and Alisa used her radio intercepting device. But they aren't bad, just a bit haughty in their own way. Even Shiho is doing what she thinks best for the Nishizumi school and the show makes it 200% plain her doctrines are well in-line with the in world zeitgeist if not ours.

Now, however, this film seems (from what I'm hearing) to make the Campus ships Bureau into a bunch of lying maggots who broke a deal they never had to make. They apparently topped it off by, after agreeing to terms that are utterly favorable to them, nevertheless somehow finding money to provide the University All-Stars Team with a frigging 60cm mortar.

And in de facto allying with this farce, the University All-Stars Team also seem to sully their own honor. Which is not good because apparently they are not very well characterized and they are already in fact a bunch of university students bullying kids several years their junior.

I'm not sure I like this development no matter how good the execution might be...

Hopefully the comments inside are not too rough. I'm indeed feeling the stress from not being able to see the darn thing for myself.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Some Movie Screenshots

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Dat black Centurion

Also, looks like the Student Council is up to their insane tricks again

And are Naomi and Kei actually flying a Galaxy?

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And it looks quite modern too, with the MFDs and EFIS.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

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Eyecancer quality is already done but will not be released until it's subbed.

And this is the first time I've been so desperate to see an anime movie that I will see it in extremely low quality once it's done.

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I'll watch things in crap quality. I am letting out my breath - for a moment I was afraid somehow, however unlikely it is, that no one managed to get anything.

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Sounds like a lot of firepower. The question is probably what does Miho have on her side?

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Basically, her own team, and everyone else donated some tanks and crews to bring the count up to 30.

And it is not just a lot. They probably broke a rule. Centurion - fine if it is Mk 1. T28, fine.

The problem is actually the Karl-Gerat, which is open and needs external (fully exposed) operators. Apparently:

http://kjya.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2...post-83bd.html
カールは本来オープントップなので普通に考えれば完全に反則ですが。なんか、自動化して人が外で操作しない ようにして使ってますな。

The above says, they added an autoloader for a 500mm+ piece - well beyond what has been achieved in WWII even for a naval gun.

And given the fact it is a film and they are playing it up as a threat, they are probably not keeping even remotely to at best 5 minutes / shot, so it is nowhere close to equivalent capability.

If we assume what they said before this show holds, it is a complete cheat probably authorized by the male chairman of the Japanese Senshado Federation (in link).

This must be one of the more anti-masculine pieces made in recent history. Males are bad. That's why they can't drive tanks. Get it, FanFiction.Net writers?

Originally Posted by Gravitas Free Zone

What is this, WarGaming?

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Your sentiments are similar to mine, but that seems to (pending my ability to actually watch the film) what they did to "legitimize" our new toy.

As for your other point, frankly, my impression of these new 'university' characters is going into the toilet. I'm not sure I want a skin of them even if I play WoT.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Spoiler for movie:

I kinda think you're confusing the intentions of the Senshado League with the University characters. It's clear that there will be some friendly interaction between the University characters and Miho, particularly through the character of Alice.

Depending on how it's portrayed, there should be a reason as to why the University is assisting in the Senshado League's plan, though what each individual character thinks of the situation remains to be seen.

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I can see that there will be the "friendly interactions" that you mention. Though it is mentioned in the reviews that the three "company commanders" of the university team isn't very fleshed out, so all the thing likely be with Alice.

Personally, I think MEXT is the big bad here (though it is possible they are being arm-twisted themselves by the Finance Ministry but if that's so they just never had to promise anything).

I suppose the male Senshado League chairman probably is doing his MEXT friend a "favor" by approving that Karl Gerat without being "in the plan". And as for the university students, they are probably just following "orders".

Still, I'm left with the brutal reality that:

1) for a picked university team, they just aren't very good if overall they can only effectively tie with a picked HS team (both sides were mutually annihilated) even with overall better tanks.

2) however superficially nice, they have accepted a mission that's essentially clubbing baby seals and as far as I can see show no guilt for it. Remember, they originally intended to attack 30:8. Oh, OK, people have attacked Oarai at these odds before without feeling too much guilt but they have the added thing they are university students.

3) They accepted and used the Karl Gerat (read above for why that's a problem) and the Centurion and T28 are though legal, along the same lines. Even if they were forced into the mission or they believed this is only a friendly match with no real consequences or whatever, one would think if they had the slightest pride in themselves as top university players they won't have resorted to those legally iffy, newly acquired contraptions just to gain an edge. You were not supposed to think better of Kuromorimine when they brought in a Maus, and this is worse.

For this reason based on what I can read about these people my first impressions of them are going really dark.

Originally Posted by D-Joe

What can you expect from a person that only reads bad reviews-even it's like only not even less than 5% of all reviews.

In fact, i never seen any of report that about "males are bad" in the movie, even the bad one.

For your information, I am aware that most reviews are rave. However, as in most things, it is those critical reviews, or at least those that are able to mix criticisms in with their appreciation that are the most educational. It's not the quantity, it's the quality.

Or can you actually refute the criticisms posted?

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As for the males are bad bit, I hadn't noticed other reviews that explicit point this out as well.

Nevertheless, I'm finding it difficult to not at least notice the correlation that a certain gender is doing all the Bad things in this movie.

Originally Posted by D-Joe

This is what happen when someone love conspiracy and always read things too much.

Missed this little bit.

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Rather than conspiracy theories or not, it is more like the team this time made a few unfortunate big decisions without thinking hard enough about their consequences. I mean, they can even redo the Close School thing if they want. But they should have added at least some kind of twist to it. For example, they could have made it so some other school now had to die and they are biting back. OR they can give a clearly defined new justification. For example, the Oarai schoolship can fail an inspection. Or it can develop a sudden, massive failure that drastically ups the cost of keeping it.

At least have a pretext. But no, they just choose the cheapest route of the Direct Reverse, and they even rush the execution to an implausible extent. And to finish it off, they sent a Gerat, and colluded with the male JSF chairman to get it all signed off.

It makes the executor of such concepts a bad guy, and anyone on his side cannot fully escape his taint. I don't think this is deliberate conspiracy,, just the stacking up of multiple decisions that formed an unfortunate line.