Superman Returns

[bluemist]

Anyone care to talk about the latest movie of the greatest superhero of our time?

In a time when we want superheroes in movies which are all angsty and psycho with cooler darker costumes, here comes classic Superman, with almost the same colorful tone as the 1980's, which seems to be a parallel of Christian savior Jesus Christ, and a being who stands for truth, justice and all that stuff.

Was the movie good or bleh to you?

[mxg]

Well i saw it yesterday and for 2 and a half hours I sat there and not once did the build up of the movie have any resolve the ending was so stupid he

Spoiler:

threw away a "BIG ASS STONE" that was the big thing of the movie

Although the movie did show Supermans strength that was all it was good for.

The moive was to religous for me watch it and you will undersatnd ............

[Lost]

Well, I am goning to watch it tomorrow night; I'm digging for the good pwning evil and justice-winning-in-the-end themes; I know its so unrealistic in this sick sick world, yet thats exactly why I (and I think many other people) need it so much (for me, especially after Hellywood, I am disillusioned).

Does anyone think that the new face of Superman fit the bill of the classic superhero? I think its quite good; I mean, chiselled jaw and confident stony eyes; yet I do think he looks too cute for Superman

[jedinat]

You're missing the "very entertaining, but a bit lame" choice. I liked the guy who played superman, he was hilarious.

Spoiler:

The cannibal dog scene had me laughing far more than it should have

[Sakaki]

I wasn't planning on going to see it, but then I saw that it is also being shown in 3D Imax, so I thought I would check that out. (I'm lucky enough to be 5 miles from an Imax theater) Anyone see it in Imax to know if it looks good?

[Kurz]

I have to say for a Super Hero movie its probably up there.
Its on level with Spiderman and X-men.

I think the reason why its a success/(fails a little) is the fact it borrows and modernizes the old style of the superman movies with Chris Reeve.

For one I was presently suprised.

[JOJOS'STAR]

Originally Posted by Sakaki

I wasn't planning on going to see it, but then I saw that it is also being shown in 3D Imax, so I thought I would check that out. (I'm lucky enough to be 5 miles from an Imax theater) Anyone see it in Imax to know if it looks good?

Yep IMAX is worth it.


Well.. yeah I hesitated between okay and not good.. A particular scene got me off the hook pretty bad. The one where lois and her new boydaddy tries to escape in a hydroplane and can't realy take off.. arg. Pittyfull stupid worthless scene where superman isn't even involved. This is superman for god sake whats the point? Anyway drama was awfull so was the hole armagedon-like plot at the end. Far to easy.

Action was pretty good and so was Clark Kent. Big props for Clark he saved the whole movie imo which is not the case with Kevin Spacy. Kevin Spacy = incredible actor but Not a bad guy. Ever ever anymore. Such a funny baby face for a Lex Luter. ^^

[aahhsin]

Originally Posted by bluemist

Anyone care to talk about the latest movie of the greatest superhero of our time?

In a time when we want superheroes in movies which are all angsty and psycho with cooler darker costumes, here comes classic Superman, with almost the same colorful tone as the 1980's, which seems to be a parallel of Christian savior Jesus Christ, and a being who stands for truth, justice and all that stuff.

Was the movie good or bleh to you?

Well... that was superman.. Truth, Justice, and the American Way. He was made during the Cold War I believe. I think you're over thinking the Religious thing too much. Superman is Superman.

But I felt the movie kept draging on and on and on. It just wouldn't conclude with a bang. All it does is show Supes do this, then that, and then this again. We get it! He's Superman!!! We don't need to see him save every single person in the world, just punch Lex Luthor already. Punch Lois Lane too. She's a bitch.

Then there's Lois's kid. Which people who watched it would understand. There was so many plot holes regarding this issue that I can't even start.

I'll just say this. "The Devil Wears Prada" was a much better movie than "Superman Returns".

[DaFool]

Just OK. I'm glad I didn't have to pay more than 100 pesos for that $260+ million movie.

The allusion to Jesus Christ is total B.S. If you want a real Jesus Christ kinda story, watch Gandhi. Sure JC wont make an angsty hero, but the shits he had to go through are similar to plotlines of more angsty shows.

A movie doesn't have to be totally escapist and simplistic to be appealing to downtrodden crowds. It can also be complex and cynical as long as it is warm-hearted in its core. I can't think of any Hollywood example at the moment so I suggest Elfen Lied.

[rooboy]

Entertaining, in a summer popcorn flick kind of way.

And it's not just you jedinat,

Spoiler:

I thought the carnivorous dogs were hysterical as well.

[rooboy]

Originally Posted by aahhsin

Well... that was superman.. Truth, Justice, and the American Way. He was made during the Cold War I believe. I think you're over thinking the Religious thing too much. Superman is Superman.

Umm, Superman was created either right before or during the earliest days of World War II.

I didn't see Devil wears Prada this weekend (I wanted to, but we never quite managed to make it out, maybe tomorrow), but I'm pretty sure it's the better of the two movies.

[Lost]

I was appalled at the cannibal scene!!

Umm, Superman was created either right before or during the earliest days of World War II.

An anachronism hit me. The Superman of 1940s wouldnt have said that smoking was bad for you. Would he? Haha.. Nice movie on the whole; felt like a simple walk down a path you already know so well Altho,

Spoiler for MAJOR SPOILER:

Spoiler for I'm serious, this will SPOIL the show:

the scene of "Superman repeating what his father said to him" at the end near brought tears to my eyes. I also tot that the man-of-steel himself was a little teary eyed.

[kujoe]

A few details would've helped the movie a lot in my opinion.

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For example, where were the firemen when the city got hit by those tremors? You'd think the whole place would be filled with ambulances and fire trucks after things calmed down a bit, but no, Superman saved the day all by himself. Sure, he's the boy scout of superheroes, but he can't be the only one doing all the work. Also, I would've expected that the navy or something would've gone over to that island that Luthor made and checked it out.

Good thing there was at least some form of police presence in the movie. But when Superman was recovering in the hospital, I found it somewhat hard to believe that was all the protection he received, considering his superhero status and all.

So am I to assume that these things happened off-screen? Or am I being too anal? I guess I am. Still, I found the whole movie entertaining overall.

I was hoping that he would punch something though, just for the hell of it. All that strength and not one punch thrown.

[bluemist]

Originally Posted by kujoe

I was hoping that he would punch something though, just for the hell of it. All that strength and not one punch thrown.

Man, you made me laugh because I realized something:

Almost all the things Superman did the ENTIRE MOVIE was:

Spoiler for movie events:

CARRY STUFF
- that Space Shuttle? Carried to space.
- falling plane? Carried by the nose.
- Lois Lane? Carried to the sky.
- falling debris? Carried away.
- falling Daily Planet globe? Carried.
- sinking ship? Carried out of the water.
- jetplane? Carried to fly.
- Kryptonite/Crystal island? Carried to space.

Where's all the other stuff? It was so anti-climactic, that last action thing he did. The best sequence was still the very first one (plane crash). I would have preferred more city-tremor chaos.

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Sakaki

I wasn't planning on going to see it, but then I saw that it is also being shown in 3D Imax, so I thought I would check that out. (I'm lucky enough to be 5 miles from an Imax theater) Anyone see it in Imax to know if it looks good?

Just watched it in a Imax and its definitly worth it.

And if they ever make another Superman movie it has to have Doomsday in it. Now that I think about it the only Superman comic I ever read was the death of Superman . But it was badass.

[iceyfw]

Originally Posted by Lost

I was appalled at the cannibal scene!!


An anachronism hit me. The Superman of 1940s wouldnt have said that smoking was bad for you. Would he?

smoking is bad for you, but not for me! why you ask? uhh... its because... HELL IM SUPERMAN!! it doesnt affect me at all!

good movie. the cannibal dog scene was like ew ew ew. that guy looked like christopher reeves..

[Ending]

Does anyone think that the new face of Superman fit the bill of the classic superhero? I think its quite good; I mean, chiselled jaw and confident stony eyes; yet I do think he looks too cute for Superman

Same. The actor lacks that blocky mascule build with corners and chiseled muscles. I haven't seen the movie, never will, but the ads make him look just... boyish.

[Guido]

Originally Posted by JOJOS'STAR

Yep IMAX is worth it.


Well.. yeah I hesitated between okay and not good.. A particular scene got me off the hook pretty bad. The one where lois and her new boydaddy tries to escape in a hydroplane and can't realy take off.. arg. Pittyfull stupid worthless scene where superman isn't even involved. This is superman for god sake whats the point? Anyway drama was awfull so was the hole armagedon-like plot at the end. Far to easy.

Action was pretty good and so was Clark Kent. Big props for Clark he saved the whole movie imo which is not the case with Kevin Spacy. Kevin Spacy = incredible actor but Not a bad guy. Ever ever anymore. Such a funny baby face for a Lex Luter. ^^

Agreed. Kevin Spacey does not has the megalomaniac villain spark on him. I would have casted Anthony Hopkins for the role instead. Though I must admit that he's little better on the role than Gene Hackman.

I watched the movie Friday on 3D IMAX screen, and like everybody else has previously expressed it is worth the visual experience.

Granted, the whole film felt dragged with all of those soap opera moments particularly...

Spoiler:

The scene where Superman takes Lois for a walk on the clouds. That cheesy drama was already played in the very first Superman movie.

The only thing I'm grateful that did not kill the plot was that the scripwriters chose not to fill the movie with excessive flashback after flashback.

For those who have seen the movies or at least read some of the comics, they should have a pretty idea about Superman's origins, how he crash landed on Earth as a toddler, and who took care of him.

And I agree that the plot holes were rather confusing and made felt the movie disjointed.

Spoiler:

Why come the staff chose not to film some flashbacks of Superman venturing into deep space to find the remnants of Krypton?
The whole movie establishes that Superman went missing five years because went on a crusade for Krypton's remnants, after hearing from astronomers that they found it.

How come Lex Luthor knew the exact location of the Fortress of Solitude?, How come he had knowledge about operating the crystals to access the computer's main frame that displays the image of Jor-El?, and how come he doesn't reply when his bitch inquires him if he has already been there before?

[Lost]

Yep, boyish, thats the word. But it was okay for me after watching the show. I felt that the expressions he carried were quite fitting for Superman. Just the whole eyes and that evil way he smiled when the bullet bonged off his eye.

Originally Posted by Guido

Spoiler:

The scene where Superman takes Lois for a walk on the clouds. That cheesy drama was already played in the very first Superman movie.

I felt that that was pretty much a useless tribute to the old Superman.

Spoiler for imo the most riduculous thing in the show:

Who the heck wanders onto an unknown ship with mysterious music emanating from it with her son??

Only Louis Lane.

[Legend Ver 2]

I thought the movie was entertaining, but definitely not a worthy sequel in terms of plotline, and it definitely did not seem to be a movie deemed as the most expensive movie ever made at 250+ billion dollars. I was actually kind of bored during some parts. One thing is for sure, this movie is definitely not up there with Spider-man series. What this movie lacks is an actual conflict.

In other superhero movies, you have a villain that is physically or ability-wise as strong or even stronger than the hero to make a good fight and conflict. I know some of you would probably say that psychological warfare can also work if the enemy is weak. Well, that only works with Batman movies since he's a friggin detective AND he's human. Superman is the friggin strongest man in the world, you can't just ave him standing there just LOOKING at Luthor half the movie. You need a scifi villain that can put up a good fight and made using the 200+ billion dollars budget. That's what the fans wanted to see.

What made Spider-man a successful series was that it had drama AND a fight-worthy supervillain to put on a good show for us viewers. The only action sequences in Superman was him carrying stuff. Hardly a conflict or even n obstacle for the man of steel.

Another inconsistency is the case of the kryptonite land mass. The first time he landed on the thing, he could barely stand. Then he attempted to CARRY the ENTIRE THING with KRYPTONITE SONES RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, and actually attempted to throw it into outer space. WTF?! Keep in mind that he still has a piece of Kryptonite shard in his body at the time. With him throwing it out into space, Kryptonite infused rocks and all, I'm hoping to see a Doomsday story in the next movie to realy fire things up.

One last question...

Spoiler:

...remember when Clark kissed Lois at the end of S2, he made her forget the whole relationship. But then she has a kid in returns, so if she forgot the whole thing, wouldn't it kind of freak her out to be pregnant out of the blue? Or did that kiss just made her forget the identity of Clark but not the part about sleeping with Superman...