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spectator · 2004-12-11, 19:04

Freedom is nuke powered, NS remotely activates neutrons. The rest is pretty selfexplainary. No wonder he is not the protagonist ...

Edit: Few ppl failed to understand my improper English

Freedom is powered by nuclear reactor, more specifically fission reactor.
Neutron Stampeder can cause fission to occur prematurely, and eventually goes into uncontrolled fission (nuke).

So when N.S. is fired, Freedom will go Kaboom.

ZeusIrae · 2004-12-11, 19:13

Reactor must be protected he woudn't be evne alive if it wasn't the case.And it's at least 100 years in the future.So they a lot of time to invent new metals.

EDIT:I misread,I have reallly no idea what you're talking about

Neaco · 2004-12-11, 19:20

You know with this series, they'll probably make a neutron stampeder canceller or some other device.

Sanjuronord · 2004-12-12, 03:41

One shot device and they'd have to hit him first so not neccesarily.

SadisticSid · 2004-12-12, 07:15

Considering the range, not to mention the 60 degree firing arc, I don't think even Kira could dodge it...

Ansa · 2004-12-12, 08:40

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Originally Posted by SadisticSid

Considering the range, not to mention the 60 degree firing arc, I don't think even Kira could dodge it...

Well...

Spoiler:

ZeusIrae · 2004-12-12, 09:08

what are you talking about?I thougt it was about the n-jammer canceler.smeone please explain

SadisticSid · 2004-12-12, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Ansa

Well...

Spoiler:

Yeah but Genesis was a straight beam, from the targeting screen you see before it fires the Neutron Stampede seems to have a much wider area of effect - so it'd be impossible to dodge it if you weren't right next to the emitter.

I like the idea of this weapon - instead of N-Jammers inhibiting the nuclear reactions, rendering them useless, make them detonate prematurely, making them extremely risky and dangerous to have in your possession in the first place

eMpTy265 · 2004-12-12, 11:02

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Originally Posted by SadisticSid

Yeah but Genesis was a straight beam, from the targeting screen you see before it fires the Neutron Stampede seems to have a much wider area of effect - so it'd be impossible to dodge it if you weren't right next to the emitter.

I like the idea of this weapon - instead of N-Jammers inhibiting the nuclear reactions, rendering them useless, make them detonate prematurely, making them extremely risky and dangerous to have in your possession in the first place

Yup, and this weapon is 'obviously' a defensive weapon against the tranny of those who use nukes.
(Or that's what ZAFT would claim.)

One question though, does PLANT use fisson reactors to provide energy to the 'colonies'?
(Cuz if they did, and the stampeder fired...)

Or do they run on fusion?

As for Kira, it'd be pretty anti-climatic him die like that, but I'm sure they could think of a nobel way for him to die.

ZeusIrae · 2004-12-12, 11:06

PLANTs have huge solar panel.It provide light and energy.Of course it is possible that PLANTs also use nuclear reactor.

spectator · 2004-12-12, 14:09

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Originally Posted by ZeusIrae

what are you talking about?I thougt it was about the n-jammer canceler.smeone please explain

Damn, i lost my internet for a full day. Cant believe how i got through it...

Anyways, technological wise, things went like this:

EA -> Nuked a Junius 7
Plant -> Neutron Jammer
EA -> Kickass MICROWAVed Zaft
Plant -> EMPed EA
Plant -> Neutron Jammer Canceller
EA -> Neutron Jammer Canceller
EA -> Nuked some fortress of Plants'
Plant -> GENESISed Moon.

"Love and Peace" for like 2 years?

Plant -> Neutron Stampeder (remotely activate neutrons, starts fission prematurely.)

Demon-Hunter · 2004-12-12, 20:25

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Originally Posted by spectator

Freedom is nuke powered, NS remotely activates neutrons. The rest is pretty selfexplainary. No wonder he is not the protagonist ...

why would plant want to kill Kira? He is a coordinator after all, and will become pro plant as well based on newtype previews

dreamless · 2004-12-12, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Demon-Hunter

why would plant want to kill Kira? He is a coordinator after all, and will become pro plant as well based on newtype previews

well, maybe during some fight, ZAFT used Neutron Stampeder against a fleet of EA carrying nukes while ZAFT and EA mobile suits are battling in front. And they forgot that Freedom was powered by a nuclear reactor, and thought the Neutron Stampeder was safe for their own troops, and... well, I'd say that'd be a really sucky way for the former hero to go, nah I don't think Kira will die this kind of pathetic death

spectator · 2004-12-12, 22:46

I think Sunrise still has time to dump Shinn and make Kira + Athrun the protagonists. That will make the whole world happier

how about is?

Shinn: Kira can i take Freedom out for a ride?
Kira: yeah. ok just dont forget to fill the gas for me...
Shinn: sure.

On the other side,
Zala's supporters: lets assasinate Kira and Lacus. Oh wait lets zap two with Stampeder... Omg, here they come in Freedom...

On the next day,

Kira: Damn, i forgot to put insurance on Freedom, hope Lacus can get me another one

sparkswy · 2004-12-13, 02:51

The Neutron Stampeder is a true threat to Freedom which is powered by nuclear energy.Let's pray Kira would not encounter the device when he gets to fight.

ForceFreedom · 2004-12-13, 23:26

I'm not exactly well-versed in nuclear science, but I would assume there's some kind of difference in a nuclear system made to create energy (ie. for an MS) and a nuclear system made primarily to explode. Anyone with their Nuclear Physics degree can feel free to pwn me, but could it be possible that generators are not affected by the Stampeder in the same way a warhead would be?

dimdog · 2004-12-14, 21:18

Actually your right ForceFreedom (IMO). Wouldn't the control rods stop the premature fission?

ZeusIrae · 2004-12-15, 04:52

I don't see how you could stop the reaction when it is out of control.
It was the first time that ZAFT use the NS,next time the EA will be ready.And apparently they have only one shot.

Forever · 2004-12-15, 07:33

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Originally Posted by ForceFreedom

I'm not exactly well-versed in nuclear science, but I would assume there's some kind of difference in a nuclear system made to create energy (ie. for an MS) and a nuclear system made primarily to explode. Anyone with their Nuclear Physics degree can feel free to pwn me, but could it be possible that generators are not affected by the Stampeder in the same way a warhead would be?

Well i dont have a nuclear physics degree, but i can roughly tell you the difference. NUclear reactions (at least i think for uranium) are chain reactions. Once you start one reaction, it will ignite two reactions and so on..., resulting in BOOM. THese uncontrolled nuclear fission is used for nuclear weaponary. For nuclear power stations, the nuclear fissions are carefully controlled to prevent a chain reaction so as to produce enough for energy and not BOOM.

The stampeder will blow off ANY nuclear device........

dreamless · 2004-12-15, 08:01

for U-235 nuclear fission, one fission emits three neutrons to cause three more fissions which emits nine neutrons to cause nine more fissions etc. etc. But in a controlled enviroment, the control rob absorbs two of the three neutrons, so it's one fission -> one fission -> one fission etc. etc. and when you want it to stop, more control rod to absorb all the neutrons and the reaction will stop.

For nuclear bombs, it's not using neutron emitters to start the reaction, but to put the U-235 together to a larger enough mass (over the critical mass) so the neutrons in the nature will be enough to cause fission reaction, and since there's nothing to control it so it will be an uncontrolled chain reaction thus a big explosion.

For Neutron Stampeder, I guess they somehow cause a lot of neutron emissions inside the nuclear bombs and nuclear engines thus causing the fission reaction going out of control. So I guess even the control rod won't be much help if there are constant neutron emissions. But then the way how the Neutron Stampeder works is still unknown...

2004-12-11, 19:04	Link #1
spectator Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Kira's Fate: Freedom + Neutron Stampeder Freedom is nuke powered, NS remotely activates neutrons. The rest is pretty selfexplainary. No wonder he is not the protagonist ... Edit: Few ppl failed to understand my improper English Freedom is powered by nuclear reactor, more specifically fission reactor. Neutron Stampeder can cause fission to occur prematurely, and eventually goes into uncontrolled fission (nuke). So when N.S. is fired, Freedom will go Kaboom. Last edited by spectator; 2004-12-12 at 22:53.

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ZeusIrae Loyal Haruhist. Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 37	Reactor must be protected he woudn't be evne alive if it wasn't the case.And it's at least 100 years in the future.So they a lot of time to invent new metals. EDIT:I misread,I have reallly no idea what you're talking about __________________ "Politics always takes vengeance on those who belittle it." Julian Minci, Legend of the galactic heroes . Last edited by ZeusIrae; 2004-12-12 at 09:54.

2004-12-12, 09:08	Link #7
ZeusIrae Loyal Haruhist. Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 37	what are you talking about?I thougt it was about the n-jammer canceler.smeone please explain __________________ "Politics always takes vengeance on those who belittle it." Julian Minci, Legend of the galactic heroes .

2004-12-12, 11:06	Link #10
ZeusIrae Loyal Haruhist. Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 37	PLANTs have huge solar panel.It provide light and energy.Of course it is possible that PLANTs also use nuclear reactor. __________________ "Politics always takes vengeance on those who belittle it." Julian Minci, Legend of the galactic heroes .

2004-12-15, 04:52	Link #18
ZeusIrae Loyal Haruhist. Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 37	I don't see how you could stop the reaction when it is out of control. It was the first time that ZAFT use the NS,next time the EA will be ready.And apparently they have only one shot. __________________ "Politics always takes vengeance on those who belittle it." Julian Minci, Legend of the galactic heroes .

2004-12-11, 19:20	Link #3
Neaco Senior Member Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2004	You know with this series, they'll probably make a neutron stampeder canceller or some other device.

2004-12-12, 03:41	Link #4
Sanjuronord セクシーなパイロット Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kentucky	One shot device and they'd have to hit him first so not neccesarily.

2004-12-12, 07:15	Link #5
SadisticSid Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Considering the range, not to mention the 60 degree firing arc, I don't think even Kira could dodge it...

2004-12-12, 22:46	Link #14
spectator Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	I think Sunrise still has time to dump Shinn and make Kira + Athrun the protagonists. That will make the whole world happier how about is? Shinn: Kira can i take Freedom out for a ride? Kira: yeah. ok just dont forget to fill the gas for me... Shinn: sure. On the other side, Zala's supporters: lets assasinate Kira and Lacus. Oh wait lets zap two with Stampeder... Omg, here they come in Freedom... On the next day, Kira: Damn, i forgot to put insurance on Freedom, hope Lacus can get me another one

2004-12-13, 02:51	Link #15
sparkswy Ace Pilot Join Date: Mar 2004	The Neutron Stampeder is a true threat to Freedom which is powered by nuclear energy.Let's pray Kira would not encounter the device when he gets to fight.

2004-12-13, 23:26	Link #16
ForceFreedom Member Join Date: Oct 2004	I'm not exactly well-versed in nuclear science, but I would assume there's some kind of difference in a nuclear system made to create energy (ie. for an MS) and a nuclear system made primarily to explode. Anyone with their Nuclear Physics degree can feel free to pwn me, but could it be possible that generators are not affected by the Stampeder in the same way a warhead would be?

2004-12-14, 21:18	Link #17
dimdog Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 34	Actually your right ForceFreedom (IMO). Wouldn't the control rods stop the premature fission?

2004-12-15, 08:01	Link #20
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	for U-235 nuclear fission, one fission emits three neutrons to cause three more fissions which emits nine neutrons to cause nine more fissions etc. etc. But in a controlled enviroment, the control rob absorbs two of the three neutrons, so it's one fission -> one fission -> one fission etc. etc. and when you want it to stop, more control rod to absorb all the neutrons and the reaction will stop. For nuclear bombs, it's not using neutron emitters to start the reaction, but to put the U-235 together to a larger enough mass (over the critical mass) so the neutrons in the nature will be enough to cause fission reaction, and since there's nothing to control it so it will be an uncontrolled chain reaction thus a big explosion. For Neutron Stampeder, I guess they somehow cause a lot of neutron emissions inside the nuclear bombs and nuclear engines thus causing the fission reaction going out of control. So I guess even the control rod won't be much help if there are constant neutron emissions. But then the way how the Neutron Stampeder works is still unknown...