2004-10-23, 04:12 | Link #1 |
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**.The Ranking Of Techniques.**
It's 2 A.M. and I'm completely bored and not sleepy whatsoever, so...
Okay - after rewatching the episodes of Jiraiya teaching Naruto the Rasengan, this six levels of difficulty for the techniques came to my mind. Put up your opinion on all the techniques you know - and what you think their destructive level should be. Also put in a mastery level if you can think of one. Like some of Sasuke's Katon no jutsus - although they may do relatively little damage at his current stage and are easy to master, after his chakra capacity grows their destruction level will be much greater. I'm kind of confused, Jiraiya said the Rasengan was a 5/6 on the scale - and mentioned the 4th needing 3 years to do it.. so maybe he was talking about mastering the move in general? Yeah.. I think that's it, not really destructive levels, but maybe.. Put the *CURRENT* destructive levels though, not what you think they'll be at later times. This is an opinionated thread. All of this is my take on what I thought about the techniques at 3 a.m. I insist that you come in and give your opinions on certain techniques, and maybe later on we can separate them and think up a list of genjutsu, and ninjutsu techniques, and different levels of water, fire, and earth element techniques. ML: Mastery Level.. maybe not *complete* mastery, but enough. DL: Destructive Level These techniques go for *ANYBODY*. I'm just putting them under the ninjas that use them in the series.. general techniques: Kawarimi: ML: 1 Bunshin: ML: 1 Genjustsu Dispelling: ML: 2 or even 3 since some Ninja couldn't dispel Kabuto's. ANBU Paralysis Techniques: ML: 2 DL: **3 Genin Naruto: Rasengan ML: 5 DL: At the current moment, 4-5 Not really a technique :-) but, Kyuubi Chakra ML: 6 (he's still trying to get the hang of it) DL: 6 Seduction Henge: ML: 1 DL: 1, 6 against perverts. Kuchiyose: ML: 5 for Naruto. He has to actually learn to control the Kyuubi chakra to summon any toads besides Gamakichi (tatsu) and Gamabunta. DL: Gamakichi and Gamatatsu - 1 - Gamabunta 6 Kage Bunshin ML: 3 DL: Depends on how they're used.. normally 2-3 Mass Kage Bunshin ML: 4 DL: 4-5 Naruto Rendan (combo) ML: 2 DL: 1 Thousand Years of Pain: ML: 1 DL: 1 - with explosive tag - ouch. 4!! Sasuke Katon Goukakyuu no jutsu (blazing fireball) against Kakashi and others ML: 2 DL: 1 Katon Housenka no Jutsu (Phoenix Fire) Against Mubi ML: 2 DL: 1 Katon Housenka no justu against Temari ML: 2 DL: 2 Katon Ryuuka no jutsu (Dragon Fire) (against oro) ML: 2 DL: 3 Chidori ML: 4 DL: 5 Neji Gentle Fist Taijutsu: ML: 6 (to see and understand the path of chakra throughout the tenketsu) DL: 4-6 Kaiten ML: 4 DL: 3 Hakke Rokujuuyonshou (Divination Field, 64 Strikes) ML: 5 DL: 5 On anyone unless they can defend it or have another Chakra source. Lee Konoha windstrike - whirlwind, and whatever else he calls out his attacks with.: ML: 1 DL: 2 Primary Lotus: ML: 5-6 DL: Depends on how many gates, but 4-6 Secondary Lotus ML: 4 DL: 3-4 Gates in General: ML: 5 DL: Anywhere from 4-5 for now, since Lee can't open all of them. Shikamaru Kage Mane (shadow imitation) ML: 3 DL: - depends on what you do with it, normally 3. 6 if he actually kills the opponent. Chouji Meat Tank: ML: 2 DL: 2 Ino Mind-Transfer ML: 3 DL: 2 Gaara Desert Funeral ML: 3 DL: 4 Sand Ball! With the 3rd Eye ML: 4 DL: 4 if you get close. Transforming into the the monster: ML: 4 DL: 4 Transforming into the perfect Form ML: 4 DL: 6 Transforming into Shukaku: ML: 5 DL: 6 Sand Shuriken: ML: 2 DL: 2 Kankuro Controlling The Puppet ML: 4** DL: 2-3 Shino hasn't shown any "techniques" yet, as in forming seals or anything. Temari Ninpou Kamaitachi (Whirlwind) ML: 2 DL: 3 Kiba Gijyuu Ninpou (beast mimicry) ML: 2 DL: 2 Gatsuuga (Double Fang Destroyer) ML: 3 DL: 3 (it's a master move) TenTen Soushouryu (Rising Twin Dragons) ML: 2 DL: 3 Chuunin Sound 4: Barrier ML: 4 DL: 6 if you touch it. Kidoumaru (spider guy) Ninpou Kumoshibari (to stop the ANBU) ML: 3 DL: 3 Special Jounin anko Hidden Snake Hands ML: 3 DL: 3 Dual Snake Destroyer ML: 4 DL: 6 Hayate Dance of the Crescent Moon: ML: 5 DL: 4 Aoba Only showed a Fire attack.. just like Sasuke's Goukakyuu no jutsu. ML:2 DL: 3-4 (bit stronger than Sasuke's) Shizune Ninpou Dokugiri (poison mist) ML: 3 DL: 4 Jounin Kakashi: Chidori ML: 4 DL: 5-6 Kuchiyose no jutsu ML: 3 DL: Depends on what dog he sends.. 1-3 Ninpou, Suiton Suijinheki (water wall) - same thing that the 2nd did. Compare the difference.. ML: 3 DL: 3 Gai Gates ML: 5 DL: 6 Konoha Strong Whirlwind! ML: 2 DL: 4! One swift kick does it all. Dynamic Entry: ML: 6 - if you don't have the passion, it's useless. DL: 4 - devastating. Zabuza: Water Clone ML: 1 DL: 2 Suiton Suiryuudan no jutsu (Water Dragon Bullet) ML: 3 DL: 3 Suiton Daibakufu no jutsu (Originally Zabuza's.. Kakashi used the attack first against him) ML: 2 DL: 4 Kurenai Genjutsu on Itachi ML: 4 DL: 4 Baki I don't have eps 50-60 on my cpu.. so Wind attack: ML: 3 DL: 4-5 Chomaru Baika no jutsu (double weight) ML: 4 DL: 5 Ino's dad Shinranshin no jutsu (mind confusion) ML: 4 DL: 4-5 Nara Shikotsu Kage mane no jutsu ML:3 DL: Same as Shikamaru's.. 3 normally, 4-6 if he wants to do something nasty. Shadow Neck Hold ML: 4 DL: 5 S-class criminals or others Kabuto: Chakra Scalpel ML: 4 DL: 4-5 Normal healing techniques: ML: 3 DL:- none Regenration ability: ML: 5 DL: -none Mass Genjutsu at the stadium. ML: 4 DL: Depends on what you do while they're sleeping 3. Kisame Suiton, Suikoudan no jutsu (Water Shark Missle) ML: 3 DL: 4 Hiashi: - same as Neji just about.. except.. Kaiten: ML: 4 DL: 5** Also his Gentle Fist is stronger - Neji might not be able to take out a high class jounin just with one blow (or maybe he can) Haku: Flying Water of a Thousand Kills: ML:2 DL:2 Bloodline Limit: Master Technique: Mirror of Ice Crystals ML:5 DL: debatable - 5 against Sasuke. The Top Dogs Sandaime Death God Technique: ML: 6 DL: 6 Ninpou Kawara Shuriken (tile shuriken) ML: 2 DL: 3 Doton Doryuu Taiga (moving land river) ML: 3 DL: 4 Doton Doryuudan (Earth Dragon Missle) ML: 3 DL: 4 When Doryuudan is mixed with Karyuudan (fire dragon missle) - the DL goes to 5. I think anyone else besides Oro and Sannin level ninjas would've been dead if they had been trapped in that earth fire river. Shuriken Kagebunshin no Jutsu ML: 3 DL: 4 Katon Karyuu Endan (Fire Dragon Flame missle) ML: 4 DL: 5 Doton Doryuuheki (Earth Wall) ML: 4 DL: - - - hmm is there one? Kuchiyose for Enma: ML: 3 DL: 5-6 Shodaime Mokuton Hijutsu Jukai Kouton (Birth of trees) ML: 5 DL: 5-6 Nidaime Suiton Suijinheki (Water element, Water Wall) ML: 4 DL: 5 Suiton Suishouha (Water Wave) ML: 4 DL: 5 Manipulation of water (pulling sandaime in) and water projectiles.. if it is a jutsu.. ML: 3 DL: 3-4 Even though the 1st did it in the manga I think.. Genjutsu, Kokuangyou no Jutsu (Absolute Darkness) ML: 5 DL: 5 (It's complete darkness, incredibly devastating) Orochimaru Kuchiyose no jutsu: ML: 3 DL: - 3 - 6 (manda) Immortality Jutsu: ML: 6 Edo Tensei: (Reincarnation of the impure world) ML: 6 DL: 6 Technique Oro used to kill the 2 ANBU with Sarutobi, and bring Enma to his knees ML: 4 DL: 5 Hidden Snake Hands ML: 3 DL: 4 since he can bite with his. Fuuin (sealing) of kyuubi: ML: 5 - there had to be some reason only the sannins and the third know it.. although it was most likely just kept a secret between them. DL: - - - - Jiraiya Kuchiyose ML: 3 DL: - Sand Destroyer (5) - Gama (6) - the toad he beat Ebisu with (4) - Guardian toad protecting Naruto from Kisame (3).. Ransengan: ML: 5 DL: 6 Doton Yomi Numa (Hell Swamp) ML: 4 DL: 4 Hari Jizou (Needle Guardian) ML: 3 DL: 3 Katon Gamayo Emudan (Fire Blowing) ML: 3 DL: 4 - when accompanied with Gama's oil, goes to 5. Tsunade Kuchiyose of Katsuya ML: 3 DL: 6 Ninpo Sozo Saise (Genesis of Rebirth) ML: 6 DL: 6 Medical Technique she was going to use on Orochimaru ML: 5 DL: 5 Nervous system attack: ML: 4 DL: 4 Itachi Mangekyou Sharingan - Tsukuyomi ML: 6 DL: If you have a fairly strong mentality like Kakashi, 5.. for the weak-minded, 6. Amaterasu ML: 6 DL: 6 Exploding Kage Bunshin: ML: 2 DL: 4 OK, it's 5 A.M. I'm going to bed. Last edited by kboykb; 2004-10-23 at 04:35. |
2004-10-23, 06:46 | Link #3 |
Lee is such a player...
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You cant realle ML the Sexy No Jutsu....
Sexy No Jutsu: ML=10000000 -No One else has this technique so therefore infinite!! DL=6 against anyone. Sennin Goroshi (Kakashi) ML=6 DL=6 (it realle hurts if no lube is used) Inner Sakura ML=1 DL=-10 Shishi Rendan ML=1 (stupid sharingan) DL=2-4 Naruto Nisen Rendan ML=4-6 (u have to use heaps of bunshins) DL=4-6 (he got gaara pretty good) Byukkugan ML=6 (Very Hard to Master as shown in Anime) DL=0 Sharingan (Sasuke) ML=2 (in anime) 3-4 (manga *no spoiler) DL=0 (in anime and manga, he hasnt mastered it completely) Sharingan (Kakashi) ML=3-4 DL=Genjustu 0-1 Sharingan (Itachi) ML=900000000000000000000 (he so damm cool) DL=900000000000000000000 (both sasuke and kakashi were owned) Sexy Eyebrows (Lee) ML= 6 (THEIR SO DAMM SEXY!) DL= 6 (THEIR BLIND U, the reflection) |
2004-10-25, 06:22 | Link #8 |
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Agree with all, except for the Jukai Koudan (1th's jutsu).
And you forgot gaara's new jutsuesert reqiuem and 2 other Sand techniques. it'd be soo cool if you wrote thos!!! the 3th stated that the only person that was able to master that technique was the 1th. Mastery level should be 6. But thanks for finding out some oroginal names for the jutsu, I was searching for the Doton: Yomi Numa. |
2004-10-25, 13:39 | Link #9 |
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Why does suijinheki have a destructive level?
I agree about the mastery level idea though, you can see the differences between the same jutsu according to its user's skill. The best example is kakashi's water wall, which wasnt very tall, and nidaime's water wall, which was extremely huge and there was no prescence of water. Theres obviously some jutsu that wont get any better, like kawarimi/replacement, but those jutsu rise in usefulness in how sneaky/quickly you can do the seals. but then again, with all the inconsistencies with seal usage, a random set of seals would get you anything you want XD |
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2004-10-26, 18:39 | Link #14 |
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Garaa was also exhausted and nearly out of chakra, seeing as he only caught parts of lee instead of entirely covering him like gaara would normally do. We just cant tell if gai would still have that easy of a time deflecting it if garaa were at top condition.
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2004-10-26, 18:53 | Link #15 | |
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Stand there for a bit and use nothink as the sand acts without his will. Then he got pwnd which uses the sheils of sand which uses some of gaars chakra. Then he used Kwamari I think thats what its called. To me that dosennt seem like a lot of chakra useage. Simple fact is gennin and jounin levels are are too far apart I think the guy who writes the manga has shown this throughout. Gai could and would stp any of Gaara's attacks with ease as any other jounin would. Otherwise Gaara would be a sand jounin by now not still a gennin, that is without the big monster thats inside of him but that dosen't really count because if it did then we could say the same about Naruto. He is a genin and would get his ass handed to him by gai or kakshi. but if he was psyco fox naruto he would hand thier asses to them. Do you see what i mean? |
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2004-10-26, 20:56 | Link #16 |
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erm okay...I thought the indications of Gaara not being nearly as threatening at the end of the lee fight as he was when they started were pretty obvious.
Gaara only used the kawarimi for the first time lee used lotus. That means that he was really the one being battered around the arena the second time after lee opened his gates. He didnt get KOed from the final hit because his sand cushioned him for it, but he did take the other hits, It's also been said by kankuro i believe, that his second layer of defense, the sand over his skin, takes up a lot of chakra. He isnt even able to get up immediately after lee's attack, his sand was sluggish when it was going after lee, and he could only grasp lees arm and leg instead of his whole body. When he composed himself enough to send a second wave of sand is when gai arrived to bat away the sand. How can you insist that these conditions reflect absolute potential? The point stands that we won't know if Gai would have done the same thing or not if gaara was in his best shape. Since most of these things destructive levels are for when someone is caught in the jutsus anyways, garaas should be at maximum deadliness. |
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