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Stark700 · 2014-10-21, 09:41

Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri anime adaptation confirmed.

Link:
http://gate-anime.com/
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-27689.html

Here's a general synopsis:

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One day in the 21st century, a gate opened in the middle of the Ginza district of Tokyo. Out of the gate poured soldiers and strange creatures, and they soon made Ginza look like an image of hell. The gate apparently connected Japan to another world, a world with a militant empire and many supernatural creatures. The Japanese Self-Defense Force decided to send a small group, led by a soldier who's also an otaku, into the other world on a reconnaissance mission. They're meant to learn what they can about the empire (and its plans), the world, and the people.

They're hardly in the world yet, though, when they come across a village destroyed by a giant fire-breathing dragon. The only survivor is an unconscious elven girl they find hidden in a well. Now they feel like they must warn the nearby towns about the dragon, and do what they can to help. On the way, they'll meet more magical, female companions, and learn more about this dangerous new world.

Official anime site: http://www.gate-anime.com/

Promo Video:

cupumanager · 2014-10-21, 10:12

Its Happening...If its really happening...

However, seeing the trend in Japan this is very much will be adapted...

kasimmorathi · 2014-10-21, 11:34

I am wondering how this will be dealt with if true. The story is fairly dark featuring quite a bit of rape and slavery. I suppose most of it could be avoided if it only kept the perspective of the protagonist. It can't really soften any of the material either without giving up part of that gritty reality that would separate it from the likes of Outbreak Company.

SPARTAN 119 · 2014-10-21, 12:50

Obviously the best way to deal with it is to keep it as close to the tone of the manga as possible. As for differentiating it from Outbreak Company, I think the fact that they are literally crushing the fantasy world under tank treads rather than trying to spread moe to it should be very obvious! As for the dark tones, I think the most important thing here is to choose the right staff and studio- Madhouse would probably be a good choice given their past work with things like Black Lagoon etc.

MrTerrorist · 2014-10-21, 12:57

I wonder how it will handle the right wing politics?

SPARTAN 119 · 2014-10-21, 13:36

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

I wonder how it will handle the right wing politics?

I heard the manga publishers asked Takumi Yanai to tone it down for the manga. I suspect the TV execs will require the same.

CrazyPerson · 2014-10-21, 13:38

Maybe they'll run it straight and unapologetically? While I don't approve of some, it's better to leave the author's intent intact and let the audience judge the work (and the author) itself.

If it turns people away, then it deserves to lose people. The author deserves his right to speak his intents, the audience has the right to judge him on those. Censoring people can lead to an echo chamber, and speaking unpopular ideas either demonstrates their worth or follies.

/idealism off

Other anime/manga works have had bigger shitstorms over much less inflammatory reasons. Add to the fact that the final goal of sponsoring an anime is usually for money means that it's quite likely to undergo "adjustments" for the sake of political correctness and sales. Hell, Attack on Titan got snubbed a bit by Koreans because the characters were a bit proud of being in the military defending against essentially gigantic zombies. And that's with the walled cities being nowhere near being an allegory for Japan.

EDIT: Oh, he was asked to tone it down? Now it's 100% sure details will be changed. Not like it matters though, most of Eastern Asia will still throw a fuss about portraying the JSDF in a good light. The countries of Asia have long memories, not to mention anti-Japan rhetoric is useful as a rallying point. Can't blame Asia though, those were some bastardly actions back in WW2.

Key Board · 2014-10-21, 15:15

They didn't tone down the anti Chinese rhetoric in Mahouka either

LoweGear · 2014-10-21, 15:36

THE HAPPENING. IT IS.

Wonder how far into the story they'll go, considering that the novel is apparently closed to finished AFAIK.

Xacual · 2014-10-21, 16:20

The novel ended a while ago. I'm not sure if the Light Novel adaptation of the novel has ended yet or not. The manga is of course still ongoing.

tsunade666 · 2014-10-21, 17:42

Good news but i didn't know the manga was toned down.

com_gwp · 2014-10-21, 19:00

Can't say I wasn't expecting this to happen at some point. And since it already ended, there's even a pretty good chance of it being fully adapted.

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

I wonder how it will handle the right wing politics?

IMO they could cut it out or like how the manga is doing it, twist it into a bias against governments and authority in general.

Top Sergeant · 2014-10-21, 20:31

I surely hope this does become an anime, and with good production values and voice acting.

MisaoFan · 2014-10-22, 03:07

Premise sounds like a darker version of Outbreak Company and I've heard some good things about this. Also it seems whoever registered the domain has to be Warner Bros, the producers behind the Jojo anime and Strike the Blood.

Marcus H. · 2014-10-22, 03:10

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right wing politics

No sir, I don't like it. Dropped before it could even air a PV.

MisaoFan · 2014-10-22, 03:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

No sir, I don't like it. Dropped before it could even air a PV.

What's your reason for not disliking it? I don't really mind it but I'm rather indifferent to it regardless.

Myssa Rei · 2014-10-22, 04:07

Most of the right-wing stuff was obfuscated in the manga, but the novel WAS pretty bad about it. See Aohige's commentary on it -- there was quite a bit of jingoism going around.

That said, we don't even know if it IS the JSSDF Gate. It might be something else entirely.

CrazyPerson · 2014-10-22, 15:05

Is this the commentary Aohige made? http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...t=JSDF&page=42

Or is there another post that has some examples of the changes? I'm curious to some examples. Further Googling for examples hasn't led me to discrete examples, just people (very) consistently saying it's right wing. I want to see how bad it is so I can either laugh or cry depending on the severity.

Top Sergeant · 2014-10-22, 17:16

The only problem with labeling something Left Wing or Right Wing is that its subjective to stance of the person making the observation. What is to the Left of that person may be to the Right of another.

Myssa Rei · 2014-10-22, 19:16

You'll have to track down the web version (which may need some archive research up to four years), but if you're familiar with the YAMATO DAMASHII style in the MuvLuv series, you'll find that it's... familiar. Real manifest destiny, jingoist style of prose. It would be reeeeeeally hard to mistake it as something from a Leftist.

2014-10-21, 12:57	Link #5
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	I wonder how it will handle the right wing politics? __________________

2014-10-21, 15:15	Link #8
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	They didn't tone down the anti Chinese rhetoric in Mahouka either __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2014-10-21, 15:36	Link #9
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	THE HAPPENING. IT IS. Wonder how far into the story they'll go, considering that the novel is apparently closed to finished AFAIK. __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2014-10-21, 16:20	Link #10
Xacual Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	The novel ended a while ago. I'm not sure if the Light Novel adaptation of the novel has ended yet or not. The manga is of course still ongoing. __________________ I was influenced by a certain group overflowing with madness and started trying to write a story. Please give it a try. Crashed into Fantasy

2014-10-21, 17:42	Link #11
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Good news but i didn't know the manga was toned down. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2014-10-21, 10:12	Link #2
cupumanager Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	Its Happening...If its really happening... However, seeing the trend in Japan this is very much will be adapted...

2014-10-21, 11:34	Link #3
kasimmorathi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	I am wondering how this will be dealt with if true. The story is fairly dark featuring quite a bit of rape and slavery. I suppose most of it could be avoided if it only kept the perspective of the protagonist. It can't really soften any of the material either without giving up part of that gritty reality that would separate it from the likes of Outbreak Company.

2014-10-21, 12:50	Link #4
SPARTAN 119 Unleashing the Homu-Rage Join Date: Apr 2010	Obviously the best way to deal with it is to keep it as close to the tone of the manga as possible. As for differentiating it from Outbreak Company, I think the fact that they are literally crushing the fantasy world under tank treads rather than trying to spread moe to it should be very obvious! As for the dark tones, I think the most important thing here is to choose the right staff and studio- Madhouse would probably be a good choice given their past work with things like Black Lagoon etc.

2014-10-21, 13:38	Link #7
CrazyPerson Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Maybe they'll run it straight and unapologetically? While I don't approve of some, it's better to leave the author's intent intact and let the audience judge the work (and the author) itself. If it turns people away, then it deserves to lose people. The author deserves his right to speak his intents, the audience has the right to judge him on those. Censoring people can lead to an echo chamber, and speaking unpopular ideas either demonstrates their worth or follies. /idealism off Other anime/manga works have had bigger shitstorms over much less inflammatory reasons. Add to the fact that the final goal of sponsoring an anime is usually for money means that it's quite likely to undergo "adjustments" for the sake of political correctness and sales. Hell, Attack on Titan got snubbed a bit by Koreans because the characters were a bit proud of being in the military defending against essentially gigantic zombies. And that's with the walled cities being nowhere near being an allegory for Japan. EDIT: Oh, he was asked to tone it down? Now it's 100% sure details will be changed. Not like it matters though, most of Eastern Asia will still throw a fuss about portraying the JSDF in a good light. The countries of Asia have long memories, not to mention anti-Japan rhetoric is useful as a rallying point. Can't blame Asia though, those were some bastardly actions back in WW2.

2014-10-21, 20:31	Link #13
Top Sergeant Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: By that dark and bloody river called Ohio. Age: 59	I surely hope this does become an anime, and with good production values and voice acting.

2014-10-22, 04:07	Link #17
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Most of the right-wing stuff was obfuscated in the manga, but the novel WAS pretty bad about it. See Aohige's commentary on it -- there was quite a bit of jingoism going around. That said, we don't even know if it IS the JSSDF Gate. It might be something else entirely. __________________

2014-10-22, 15:05	Link #18
CrazyPerson Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Is this the commentary Aohige made? http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...t=JSDF&page=42 Or is there another post that has some examples of the changes? I'm curious to some examples. Further Googling for examples hasn't led me to discrete examples, just people (very) consistently saying it's right wing. I want to see how bad it is so I can either laugh or cry depending on the severity.

2014-10-22, 17:16	Link #19
Top Sergeant Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: By that dark and bloody river called Ohio. Age: 59	The only problem with labeling something Left Wing or Right Wing is that its subjective to stance of the person making the observation. What is to the Left of that person may be to the Right of another.

2014-10-22, 19:16	Link #20
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	You'll have to track down the web version (which may need some archive research up to four years), but if you're familiar with the YAMATO DAMASHII style in the MuvLuv series, you'll find that it's... familiar. Real manifest destiny, jingoist style of prose. It would be reeeeeeally hard to mistake it as something from a Leftist. __________________