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Attack on Titan - Weekly Episode-to-Novel/Manga Comparison Thread [Spoilers Aplenty]
As the title of this thread suggest, the purpose here is to allow discussion which compares the content between an anime episode as it aired and how it is laid out in the source material the anime was adapted from. All spoilers are allowed as long as it is relevant to the discussion at hand. It will be helpful if the posters clearly indicate the episode number before engaging into a detailed comparison to the source material. Obviously you are required to watch the episode prior to posting here. Thread is open to everyone, but since the novel/manga readers are expected to participate, the anime-only viewers are advised to use discretion before venturing into this thread.
For the Attack on Titan Novel/Manga-Readers: Please do your darndest best to stay on topic when engaging into these comparison. Whenever you see one of your fellow novel/manga-reader is spewing spoiler for no apparent reason, feel free to tell him/her to stop. Report such post so a moderator can delete the off-topic post. Have fun! |
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Did you meant this? |
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2013-05-20, 10:51 | Link #3 | |
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so maybe he/she meant > manga scene"spoiler" that been changed/removed from anime? <<changed/removed = didn't show in anime>> |
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I see spoilers as things from the source material which haven't happened yet in the anime and what the anime has already covered from the source material isn't a spoiler anymore, but should still be hidden under spoiler tags in the episode thread, because not everyone wants to read them. |
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2013-05-20, 11:30 | Link #5 | |
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manga / anime Comparison: Spoiler for manga Comparison:
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2013-05-20, 12:13 | Link #6 | |
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We should probably use clearly labeled spoiler tags if we want to talk about those things. |
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Anime Episode 7 comparison to Manga
Fillers Part 1) When the recruits confront the Captain of Stationary Guard 2) When Jean explain to Connie what happen at the HQ (the part where we see small titans storming in and attacking soldier inside the HQ 3) The polmegrate scenes 4) Mikasa avoiding the Titan attack Differences 1) There are more Titans surrounding the HQ in the manga compared to the Anime 2) Different girl in the "suicide" part 3) Anime expand the action in Mikasa scenes when rushing to HQ 4) No censorship when Jean witness the death of some comrades before the HQ |
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Fillers Part 4) Mikasa avoiding the Titan attack and slicing off two fingers of the titan's left hand |
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It have been showed in manga how close they were being hit by titan head that was sent flying by IT. http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5d1ee164.jpg |
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The girl in Eren group was being eaten alive. http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...pscbcbd7d2.jpg |
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Back in episode 2 of the anime, does anyone know if that scene with childhood Eren kicking the soldier, Armin stepping in, Mikasa punching Eren, then force feeding him bread was in the manga? If so, what chapter and page? It seems vaguely familiar. But i still believe it's completely anime original.
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2013-05-23, 14:20 | Link #13 | |
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Also, a change I don't get why they did it: Name change on the dead recon corps soldier that is given to his mother (the arm was the only thing left) back in the first episode - from Brown/Braun (manga) to Moses (anime)
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2013-05-23, 16:09 | Link #14 |
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Thanks, i thought so. The entire thing felt kind of artificial and forced when i rewatched it. The soldier was randomly being an asshole for no other reason than to start drama for the story. Eren then flips out on him and Armin and gives some stupid speech about Armin being weak and cowardly.
The kicking the soldier part? Fine, i could see him doing that. But the rest of it didn't jive well with how he'd actually behave in the manga. I'm sorry, but i just don't see him going off on his friend like that, Eren's not stupid and Armin was clearly the one making the most sense in that situation. And the part where he's literally crying from the forced oral Mikasa was giving him? Seriously, whoever wrote that could learn a thing or two about subtlety. It's no wonder some people have the impression that Eren's a brat/hot-headed/irrational when i never felt that way reading SnK. And that pomegranate, flashing blood cells and fight for your life scene in episode 7 with Mikasa? Same problem for me, it tried way too hard to dial up the action and shounen-feel. The original was more quiet and bittersweet. It was an internal monologue of a character who had given up and lost the person she loved the most. And yet, because of said person's indomitable will in life, he was still able to inspire her to fight on. It had finesse and that's what made the scene so beautiful. It wasn't some stupid "why are my hips moving on their own?", let's turn this into an action sequence with randomly added convenient symbolism heavy-handed insert like in the anime. |
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2013-05-24, 04:54 | Link #16 | |
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At least in the anime version, she was able to save herself with her own instinct for some time and she only decided to make her last stand during the last part when she gets cornered by two Titans. It adds a bit more shock to the scene and less 'Oh, another Titan just came there right in time to save her, huh?' The moment the other came in felt more random and therefore more natural. |
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2013-05-24, 07:08 | Link #18 | |
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And it's not like that feeling even changed in the anime. She still would've died without that renegade Titan. I have nothing against your preference, though. |
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The point was that Mikasa would never gave up again, no matter how grim the situation became. She'd do her absolute best to survive in honor of Eren's way of life and even if she did become titan chow, it wouldn't have been willingly. Everything else, like how long she would have lasted and if she could have defeated it, are just shounen-esque details; the realization itself was the take away. Also, the coincidence of the rogue was probably just done for dramatic effect. Realistically, it would have made more sense to have her fight Mr. Smiley for a couple of minutes but that titan punch came out of nowhere, right after she solidified her determination and was ready to tangle. That super quick transition came as a huge surprise and in my opinion, was a better choice than a fight sequence. Quote:
It wasn't some "i only thought i wanted to die, but i guess i really don't, i'm too strong for that even though my world collapsed, sorry, just kidding" bullshit. Everything for her revolved around Eren and when he was eaten, she was clearly done. There was no doubt in my mind when i first read that scene in the manga that she would have suicided if the flashback didn't happen. The second problem i have with the whole instinct garbage is that it also downplays the role that Eren had in saving her. The whole reason she decides to live again is due to his words, the memories she had of him in the past. It wasn't because her asian blood decided to activate and make her move on her own. I honestly don't mind her fighting. But it needed to happen after her recollection, not before it. |
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So wasn't everything you wrote basically what the anime did? Mr. Smiley took a few swings at her, but she began to dodge it. It's part of our muscle reflexes. Just like how shellshocked veterans would respond to a hallucination of a grenade by ducking down rapidly during a warm, sunny day in the park. The punch still came out of nowhere because we were expecting her to be crushed by two Titans - one was bad enough, but two almost makes it impossible for you to live. And yes, she did solidify her emotions in the end. Quote:
I don't know how it downplays her weakness. Her weakness was her emotions, but her strength was her reflexes. Eren's death may have caused her weakness, but it just shows that Eren's influence on her and on her survivability will be more than anything her temporary emotions can bring her down to. You may not look at it this way, but Eren was the reason that she's this strong. It's because of his words to her, her influence to her that made her a perfect killing machine. So no, she really was suicidal during that time, but her emotions cannot overwhelm that part inside her where Eren resides in, not matter how blind she gets. |
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