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ReaperxKingx · 2013-07-09, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Chris38

@Reaper

Well, the only thing that came to my mind, on why Azazel was introduced so early, is because of the fact, that ... during the final battle of volume 3, Vali mentioned that he is fulfilling Azazel's "orders".

Maybe, they want to make that particular scene, a little easier to understand to the anime viewer, by introducing us to Azazel, before the final fight of the volume is going to occur.

Anime viewers are so picky, regardless I agree it will serve that purpose. Though Azazel appears much older in the anime than the Light Novel.

DrakeKnight · 2013-07-10, 00:28

Well Azazel was Ise's customer before his identity was known so the anime is close to the LN

GDB · 2013-07-10, 09:09

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Though Azazel appears much older in the anime than the Light Novel.

He doesn't really seem that old to me. Maybe early 30's, in terms of looks.

sky black swordman · 2013-07-15, 06:33

So due to the anime removing the certain moments and scenes that show Rias and Asia, competing for Issei's love and affection seems to be causing people to start throwing around "that" particular acronym.

DrakeKnight · 2013-07-15, 11:10

Cant really label the relationship with between those three with that acronym because ep 2 shows Asia perfectly happy is only Rias share Ise

sky black swordman · 2013-07-15, 21:08

That's true, but there are people that are using it. *sigh*

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2013-07-16, 04:39

So this is where it all went alright but yea using "that" is naïve because 1 there not in a relationship yet in the anime point 2. Nobody is stealing anybody honestly. 3. That word doesn't apply at all in this series accept for Asstaroth's attempt in Vol 6 but he got punished for that.

XFire · 2013-07-16, 15:02

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I am not sure to why they put Azazel this early in the story. Are they trying to expand volume 3? I'll admit that volume 3 does seem short if they were to animate it.

I actually like that they did this. I was a little put off by the way that they just suddenly introduced him in vol 4. "Hey this guy has been my client for a while...HOLYSHITSUDDENANGELWINGS."

GDB · 2013-07-16, 15:57

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I actually like that they did this. I was a little put off by the way that they just suddenly introduced him in vol 4. "Hey this guy has been my client for a while...HOLYSHITSUDDENANGELWINGS."

Agreed 100%.

b10nutz · 2013-08-10, 15:34

I just started reading the Novels a few days back and I'm already half way through Vol. 4 and I have to say it is so much more enjoyable reading the Novels then watching the Anime, there are moments were my imagination is over stimulated and can't stop from reading.

Regarding the way that Azazel (along with Vali, although if you did not read the Novel you just may think as him as a mysterious character for now, or at least until the next episode) was introduce I think the anime did a better job, in the Novel he was introduce way to abrupt.

AC-Phoenix · 2013-08-18, 23:22

And starting next week we will have to bear Serafall for at least 2 episodes...
I wonder how they will display all the stars in her sentences...

DrakeKnight · 2013-08-18, 23:58

The anime showed Akeno falling for Ise better. Anime make it happen for a longer time period. I like how they divided the "finger sucking" scene in two and how Akeno shows alot more emotion on the second part of the scene in episode 7 after she fall for Ise.

GDB · 2013-09-11, 19:21

Don't like how the preview for next week seems to imply Irina has her Excalibur Mimic back. That's supposed to be fused with the other 3 Excalibur parts by now. Unless they're going to say she's using the 4-piece Excalibur, which is also kind of...

Chris38 · 2013-09-11, 20:39

^ I think that it was mentioned in the novels that the fragments separated again, and can be used to create another Excalibur based upon the core that was used as a base.

The way it was stated in the novel, don't suggest that the core's of Excalibur have been fused.

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“Irina returned to headquarters along with the corpse of Balba and the 5 Excaliburs including mine. The “fragments” that act as the cores were retrieved in that state. So the mission of retrieving it was accomplished. If they have the cores, they can use alchemy to make the holy-swords again.”

So, I see no problem in Irina having Excalibur Mimic again, provided that it's destroyed during the current incident.

GDB · 2013-09-11, 20:46

I suppose that works, but then it also means there's absolutely no reason why she shouldn't be using some form of Excalibur when she appears again in volume 6, since Xenovia doesn't get the sheathe until volume 9. Until then, Irina is just using swords of light, and Excalibur would obviously be stronger than that.

Wigwams · 2013-09-22, 23:58

I was looking forward to Azazel's speech and the fallen angels pledging their loyalty to him and the alliance.

Somethindarker · 2013-09-23, 03:02

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I am not sure to why they put Azazel this early in the story. Are they trying to expand volume 3? I'll admit that volume 3 does seem short if they were to animate it.

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

He is Ise's best customer Azazel pays Ise with Gold and Jewels, forgot which part in the Novel where it is mentioned, but I know it was mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Chris38

@Reaper

Well, the only thing that came to my mind, on why Azazel was introduced so early, is because of the fact, that ... during the final battle of volume 3, Vali mentioned that he is fulfilling Azazel's "orders".

Maybe, they want to make that particular scene, a little easier to understand, to the anime viewer, by introducing us to Azazel, before the final fight of the volume is going to occur.

I like the way the anime introduced Azazel, in the novel all his previous interactions with him were through flashbacks, so putting him in the story earlier makes perfect sense.

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Originally Posted by GDB

He doesn't really seem that old to me. Maybe early 30's, in terms of looks.

The way he looks makes him seem more "world traveled", if you pay attention to the novels he looks closer to the anime the farther into the story you get.

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Originally Posted by sky black swordman

So due to the anime removing the certain moments and scenes that show Rias and Asia, competing for Issei's love and affection seems to be causing people to start throwing around "that" particular acronym.

I also wanted to see Issei teaching Koneko how to swim...

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Originally Posted by DrakeKnight

Cant really label the relationship with between those three with that acronym because ep 2 shows Asia perfectly happy is only Rias share Ise

Well Rias is the first wife and Asia is her second in command.

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Originally Posted by sky black swordman

That's true, but there are people that are using it. *sigh*

Using what?

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Originally Posted by GDB

I suppose that works, but then it also means there's absolutely no reason why she shouldn't be using some form of Excalibur when she appears again in volume 6, since Xenovia doesn't get the sheathe until volume 9. Until then, Irina is just using swords of light, and Excalibur would obviously be stronger than that.

Was she even supposed to be at the Alliance meeting? I don't remember her there at all.

GDB · 2013-09-23, 05:55

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Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Was she even supposed to be at the Alliance meeting? I don't remember her there at all.

In the novels, no she was not at the meeting.

sky black swordman · 2013-09-24, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Using what?

Well, the NTR acronym. Some people (most likely anime only viewers) were saying that Rias stole Issei from Asia.

n0m@n · 2014-03-16, 18:06

After watching season 2, I have to say that season 2 did crap compared to season 1.
Season 2 received more budget and had more potential to do better than season 1. Though it couldn't pull it off.

1.) Wasted too much episodes on useless parts. It didn't need 6 episodes to cover volume 3 plot. 4 or 5 episodes would have been fine. And they rushed the main/important parts of volume 4. Seriously, there was a single episode dedicated Gasper, but that wasted a lot of time. Hence the climax was rushed.

2.) There was no need to have 2 OP and 2 ED. If you compare between the 2 OP, 80 to 90% off screen were recycled and used. Simply having 1 OP and 1 ED would have been enough. They could have used the budget they used on the extra OP and ED on something else...

3.) The final battle between Ise and Vali was done badly. Too rushed. The season 1 final battle between Ise and Raiser did much MUCH better. But Ise and Vali was supposed to be better in the original LN...

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sky black swordman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: California	So due to the anime removing the certain moments and scenes that show Rias and Asia, competing for Issei's love and affection seems to be causing people to start throwing around "that" particular acronym. __________________

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sky black swordman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: California	That's true, but there are people that are using it. sigh __________________

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AC-Phoenix Detective Join Date: Aug 2010 Age: 36	And starting next week we will have to bear Serafall for at least 2 episodes... I wonder how they will display all the stars in her sentences... __________________ Those who forget about the past are condemned to repeat it - Santayana Sidenote: I'm seemingly too dumb for my current keyboard, so if you see the same character twice in a row, when it doesn't belong there just ignore it.

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Wigwams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010	I was looking forward to Azazel's speech and the fallen angels pledging their loyalty to him and the alliance. __________________ World No. 1

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n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	After watching season 2, I have to say that season 2 did crap compared to season 1. Season 2 received more budget and had more potential to do better than season 1. Though it couldn't pull it off. 1.) Wasted too much episodes on useless parts. It didn't need 6 episodes to cover volume 3 plot. 4 or 5 episodes would have been fine. And they rushed the main/important parts of volume 4. Seriously, there was a single episode dedicated Gasper, but that wasted a lot of time. Hence the climax was rushed. 2.) There was no need to have 2 OP and 2 ED. If you compare between the 2 OP, 80 to 90% off screen were recycled and used. Simply having 1 OP and 1 ED would have been enough. They could have used the budget they used on the extra OP and ED on something else... 3.) The final battle between Ise and Vali was done badly. Too rushed. The season 1 final battle between Ise and Raiser did much MUCH better. But Ise and Vali was supposed to be better in the original LN... __________________

2013-07-10, 00:28	Link #22
DrakeKnight Member Join Date: Jul 2013	Well Azazel was Ise's customer before his identity was known so the anime is close to the LN

2013-07-15, 11:10	Link #25
DrakeKnight Member Join Date: Jul 2013	Cant really label the relationship with between those three with that acronym because ep 2 shows Asia perfectly happy is only Rias share Ise

2013-07-16, 04:39	Link #27
ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	So this is where it all went alright but yea using "that" is naïve because 1 there not in a relationship yet in the anime point 2. Nobody is stealing anybody honestly. 3. That word doesn't apply at all in this series accept for Asstaroth's attempt in Vol 6 but he got punished for that.

2013-08-10, 15:34	Link #30
b10nutz Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Iasi, Romania	I just started reading the Novels a few days back and I'm already half way through Vol. 4 and I have to say it is so much more enjoyable reading the Novels then watching the Anime, there are moments were my imagination is over stimulated and can't stop from reading. Regarding the way that Azazel (along with Vali, although if you did not read the Novel you just may think as him as a mysterious character for now, or at least until the next episode) was introduce I think the anime did a better job, in the Novel he was introduce way to abrupt.

2013-08-18, 23:58	Link #32
DrakeKnight Member Join Date: Jul 2013	The anime showed Akeno falling for Ise better. Anime make it happen for a longer time period. I like how they divided the "finger sucking" scene in two and how Akeno shows alot more emotion on the second part of the scene in episode 7 after she fall for Ise.

2013-09-11, 19:21	Link #33
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Don't like how the preview for next week seems to imply Irina has her Excalibur Mimic back. That's supposed to be fused with the other 3 Excalibur parts by now. Unless they're going to say she's using the 4-piece Excalibur, which is also kind of...

2013-09-11, 20:46	Link #35
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I suppose that works, but then it also means there's absolutely no reason why she shouldn't be using some form of Excalibur when she appears again in volume 6, since Xenovia doesn't get the sheathe until volume 9. Until then, Irina is just using swords of light, and Excalibur would obviously be stronger than that.