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Schwarzesmarken - Novel Discussion
Schwarzesmarken (シュヴァルツェスマーケン) is another side-story of the Muv-Luv series, but the events takes place in 1983. Like Total Eclipse, Schwarzesmarken is also a light novel, and its being serialized in Tech Gian.
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As for the translated chapters, you can read it here. Any thoughts? Come and share them. Last edited by Silvance; 2012-11-09 at 19:11. |
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2012-05-09, 04:56 | Link #3 |
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Muv-Luv certainly changed a lot of things for me, in the past i wasn't interested thouching manga, let alone a light novel... Yet the moment i saw this i read it all XD (well first chapter :P), interesting story hope he translates it all.
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2012-05-09, 10:35 | Link #4 |
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I just simply got tired of multiple versions of Muv-Luv. I wish Shirogane would become the strongest ever pilot, but then there's Hibiki who seems to be even more badass as well as Ikaruga. Shirogane seems to be really badass in Alternative but he's not invincible. I want more Shirogane! Give him more badass scenes! I don't want other new casts! |
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From the way I see it, you seem to detest the fact that there are other pilots, who can compete with Takeru or even surpass him. The new casts are interesting, and likable far beyond than what you make it out to be, and they all have more than enough combat experience which explains their competency in the application of violence and tactics. I think it makes sense why they're good pilots, and leaders on their own right. Question, did you really read the other side-stories or were they based from secondhand information? Really, it's hard NOT to like them at all especially Hibiki and the rest of the Wardogs. In any case, I apologize if I sounded offensive to you. I still respect your opinion just so you know. Anyway, back on topic. Wow. I felt bad for the infantries. They finally thought back up had arrived, but they just flew past them. Hunting the laser class is a dangerous job especially with very few units on the field WITH poor visibility. The suspense was killing me. Man, Theo complaining like that reminded me of Takeru in Alternative where he kept saying how things should be done. It felt nostalgic in a good way. lol. So far, I can't help but like Irisdina. A strict, collected, and sharp leader with a good sense of humor. I laughed so hard when Irisdina asked for Theo instead of Walter, and when she said the operation was easier because she doesn't have to worry about her sense of directions. That was just pure gold. And yeah, Gretel is just bitter, but I can help to think she may have a soft spot for Theo. Last edited by Silvance; 2012-08-13 at 03:17. |
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2012-05-09, 14:59 | Link #6 |
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In Muvluv, being in a mech just sucks less. Although if you're in an Orbital Driver going to a hive that sucks more.
I find that Schwarzesmarken is good. Feels like Warhammer 40k in the Muvluv Universe. It's even got commissars and infantry that gets slaughtered by aliens. |
2012-05-09, 15:13 | Link #7 | |
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But as a genuine Russian I somewhat feel a pity that Ychida Hiroki didn`t show us BETA fighting with the tanks that were in the second line. Japanese are fond of Giant Humanoid Robots but we think that tanks didn`t said their last word even in fantasy world It seems that somebody in Age are agree: Oh, Fedor saved Gretel already so I am sure that tender bud of love is ripen in her chest (alas - not so impressive that Snow Qween has ). Last edited by Timsel; 2012-05-10 at 11:36. |
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Indeed, they created this grand world with all this detail and history, its nice to see some different view points, personally i'm all for the side stories to. Quote:
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2012-05-09, 16:50 | Link #9 |
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Nice to see you're enjoying this, guys.
And yeah, whatever that first part is - wouldn't call it a chapter, size-wise it's like half a book - is the only thing we have atm. Someone over at /m/ thought they'd pick up the books, but I don't know whether/when we'd see the result of that...
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2012-05-09, 17:25 | Link #10 |
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Regardless of that thanks for the hardwork in putting this together i quite enjoyed the read XD.
The only thing that felt kind of out of place was the comments regarding the things which where supposedly historically not correct according to our world and the need compare the world in muv-luv alternative/unlimited with ours saying that it was wrong in their perspective. In Muv-Luv Unlimited/Alternative (i mean here the visual novels) its being made clear with the talks between Yuuko-sensei and Takeru that although there are still some common things between the worlds there are also many differences (like political systems, tech advancements (in that world they where already more advanced then us in quite a lot of fields since they probed mars by the year 1958) and there are other differences), so to compare there way of being with ours and call it historical not correct since it is a different world where talking about feels kind of wrong.
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That was Ayamine not Meiya :P, plus it is shown that in the Unlimited/Alternative world, they concentrated all scientific study to find ways of improving there military tech and finding new ways of countering BETA. Due to the imminent BETA threat they didn't really had much to spare on entertainment. "Our" world since its not menaced by anything had no problem and no constraints in developing entertainment tech, but for the Unlimited/Alternative world that was a luxury they couldn't afford and except for entertainment they are more evolved technology wise then us in every aspect. Quote:
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2012-05-12, 14:00 | Link #14 |
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Thank you very much for posting this translation, Silvance.
The first chapter makes Irisdina look very much like a capable and competent commander in and out of her mecha (though some official art featuring her makes me wonder if she's also had a lot of practice as a seductress). Still, I'm very confused as to why Carnelian's gorgeous art took so long to be featured in an Age studio IP. Carnelian was one of their founding members, so why did it take so long for her to take the spotlight? I'm also confused as to why so many other characters in this series (such as Sylvia Kuszaszynska, Gretel Jeckeln, and Pham Thi Ran haven't received any attention in the official art yet). Carnelian's designs are always golden. |
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We're able to enjoy another segment of the ML series, and that's all thanks to your hard work. Again, thank you very much.
I kinda thought of that too, but I think she's his element, so he feels more compelled to provide support. I might be wrong though. Yeah, it'd be nice if we get see the tanks in action in this segment even if its just for one scene. They're outdated, but they can still be useful for artillery support in a desperate situation, no? XD Actually, it can be any of the five girls depending on your choice. Quote:
The one that you should really thank is MisterV and Timsel since they seem to work on it together. :3 lol. I believe those are just for fanservice, I mean Yuzuka and Yui often have official art depicting them in an erotic manner, and they're not seductress in any manner. As for Carnelian, I did not even know she's a founding member of Age... but yeah, I love her art a lot too. <3 |
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