Love Live! Sunshine - Episode 3 Discussion / Poll

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

I strongly and passionately disagree with this. What's not believable about someone feeling strong attachment to her or his school, and wanting to save it? Especially when that school holds a strong and meaningful family connection to the person trying to save it?

Different experiences, that's all. Never've been into stuff like that, and I switched schools like crazy back in the day, so there was never much attachment until the school I graduated from, which I know for a fact is still open. Recently I found out many of the other schools I went to are closed, and it was sad, but that was after seeing the original LL.

It's not like I hated that plot point, not at all, and I was glad to see Honoka and the crew accomplish their goal with such success, its just having people close by backing you up and wanting to answer those feelings hits way closer to home, so let me change that previous statement to It's more believeable to me.

[judasmartel]

Originally Posted by Nork22

The contest basically felt made up by the screenwriter in both seasons so don't think too hard about it. But if you want to take it to in world logic, I imagine the Summer version is based on popularity ranking death matches, while the Winter version is based on regional knock-out death matches, culminating in a battle to the death via top 8 or something.

So are those death matches 1v1 every week or so; or are all the entries voted on at once or by groups, then top 8 total or top 4 or so per group make it to the final round?

I predict Aqours will join the LL contest in Tokyo to represent their city, winning all the way to the final, where they manage to capture the hearts of all Japan despite losing to a strong group from Tokyo, preferably Muse. But in case Muse is no longer around by then...

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

Different experiences, that's all. Never've been into stuff like that, and I switched schools like crazy back in the day, so there was never much attachment until the school I graduated from, which I know for a fact is still open. Recently I found out many of the other schools I went to are closed, and it was sad, but that was after seeing the original LL.

It's not like I hated that plot point, not at all, and I was glad to see Honoka and the crew accomplish their goal with such success, its just having people close by backing you up and wanting to answer those feelings hits way closer to home, so let me change that previous statement to It's more believeable to me.

If there are people in the real world who feel/felt passionately about saving their schools, then it's a believable motivation in a work of fiction, period. It's fine to say that certain motivations hit home more for you than others, but "believability" is something more basic than that. You don't have to personally relate to something to consider it believable. I have little interest in mahjong, and what interest I do have is solely due to the Saki anime, but I can completely accept and believe that the Saki-verse girls care a lot about this game and high school-level competitions over it. The reason I can is because there are people in real life who care a lot about all sorts of games, some of which don't interest me much.

It's completely believable for μ's to be strongly motivated to save their school. You might not have had strong feelings about it, but that doesn't mean it's not believable.

But I will say that Chika's desire to reach out to the gathered crowd and not let them down is also believable.

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

If there are people in the real world who feel/felt passionately about saving their schools, then it's a believable motivation in a work of fiction, period. It's fine to say that certain motivations hit home more for you than others, but "believability" is something more basic than that. You don't have to personally relate to something to consider it believable. I have little interest in mahjong, and what interest I do have is solely due to the Saki anime, but I can completely accept and believe that the Saki-verse girls care a lot about this game and high school-level competitions over it. The reason I can is because there are people in real life who care a lot about all sorts of games, some of which don't interest me much.

It's completely believable for μ's to be strongly motivated to save their school. You might not have had strong feelings about it, but that doesn't mean it's not believable.

But I will say that Chika's desire to reach out to the gathered crowd and not let them down is also believable.

Ok, believeable wasn't the right word to use there (can't really fight the Saki comparison, specially after reading Shinohayu). Again, I didn't even dislike the whole saving the school thing, I just find this new way a very nice alternative, and a good way to change the formula from the original live.

It was just more relatable to me, that's all.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

Ok, believeable wasn't the right word to use there. Again, I didn't even dislike the whole saving the school thing, I just find this new way a very nice alternative, and a nice way to change formula from the original live.

Sure, that's fine. I agree with you here. Yeah, it's probably good that Aqours' main motivations are a love of school idols themselves, and a desire to emotionally connect with their supporters and not let them down.

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Sure, that's fine. I agree with you here. Yeah, it's probably good that Aqours' main motivations are a love of school idols themselves, and a desire to emotionally connect with their supporters and not let them down.

Also, with Mari and her money at the helm, the school is most likely safe from closing. Maybe not from becoming a refuge for seals and sea lions, but that's another subject.

On a slightly more serious note, I did like the speaker announcement and how improvised it ended up being. Just a nice way to show sincerity and chemistry from them.

[pagan poor]

1) You's hat was funny to me.

2) Girls from other schools had longer skirts than the Aqours' school girls. Thought that was odd.

[Pen3]

Don't forget that a lot of the parents in Muse went to the same school and the principle is also Kotori's mom. I am not sure if any awards or trophy was shown in the anime, but if there are then it isn't hard to assume they belong to a parent or grandparent of current students. Their siblings are also attending or going to attend that school. There is a lot more connection to them than just any random school.

[Kakurin]

A mixed-bag of an episode. The You-Chika dynamic was nice. As is the approach with a very warm-hearted town/city, making use of the different setting of a smaller community compared to Otonokizaka in Tokyo. The negative was the messed up pacing. While the first half passed far too quickly the second half wasted time with the artificial attempt at creating a bit of tension/drama with Chika getting the date wrong and hardly anybody showing up at first. Considering the support/disband condition of Mari I couldn't take it seriously. Reminded me in a way of the last arc of the first Muse season with Kotori which I did not appreciate as well.

Originally Posted by Pen3

Even the group name has more meaning and dept than Muse. Aquors is named after the beach where the 3 main girls met, while Muse is just about musical goddess.

You may know more about it from other stuff, but from an anime-only point of view at this point the name "Aqours" is a random name they picked up on the beach. No difference whatsover to Muse finding their name from a random single suggestion in the box. I don't quite get why you try to force a Aqours > Muse angle with this post.

[novalysis]

I really think that this episode, more than ever resembles a musical, down to Dia's impromptu, public objection to Chika at the end of the performance.

Also, based on hints in the OP, and hints dropped over the past three episodes, I won't be surprised that three third years have a very intense history with one another, and during their first year, tried to form an idol group to compete in Love Live, and might have even succeeded at making it all the way to Live performances. These hints makes me think we will be going in depth with the past of the Senpais, and this will make the first major deviation from the plot-line formula that is playing out so far.

That's not to say that Love Live Sunshine is a clone of it's predecessor. It is certainly following the same general plot formula, but the details of the execution of the said formula is substantially different from the first Love Live series, that it is sufficiently distinct. Already, the seeds for a divergence are already in place, from the likely significance of the history between the Senpais to the development of Aquors being foreshadowed rather blatantly; to the challenge of diverging from Muse and forming their own identities. There are going to be conflicts in the first series that are unlikely present in Sunshine, for example, the lack of Performance Venues, since there will no doubt be ample considering the setting. I won't be surprised if we get a performance where the entire group are in diving suits, performing on a boat, in a call back to the dive in Episode 2.

Also, I have a suspicion that Baka Chika is going to produce dramatic issues down the line. Unlike Honoka whose airheadedness largely does not seem to affect the functioning of Muse, it seems quite possible that Chika's ditziness and carelessness might once again produce another source of drama and tension for Aquors, beyond the performance we've seen this episode.

[R.LocK]

I finally caught the moment where Chika mistook the date since I was only looking at the posters where it was clearly written 日曜日. And here I thought why Dia was so angry at the announcement.

Bakachika broadcasted the wrong date to the whole town. That girl...

[Benigmatica]

@R.LocK
It might be a simple mistake, but she got her audience thanks to Mito-nee and her fellow students!

[judasmartel]

Originally Posted by pagan poor

Girls from other schools had longer skirts than the Aqours' school girls. Thought that was odd.

Not really. School girls in Kobe even had ankle length skirts.

The setting is basically the coastal Japanese countryside, so I guess the people there will be more conservative than those in the city.

[Kanon]

Mari was more over the top than I expected her to be. She's like Eri on drugs

[blakstealth]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Mari was more over the top than I expected her to be. She's like Eri on drugs

Are you comparing Mari to Eli cos they're both white? lol

[ninjastarforcex]

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Are you comparing Mari to Eli cos they're both white? lol

how come white is the first thing on your mind before blonde or foreigner

[blakstealth]

Originally Posted by ninjastarforcex

how come white is the first thing on your mind before blonde or foreigner

Skin color comes first always! It's more interesting to separate the white characters from a generally all-japanese cast.

[ninjastarforcex]

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Skin color comes first always! It's more interesting to separate the white characters from a generally all-japanese cast.

they are all whhite ffs

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Mari was more over the top than I expected her to be. She's like Eri on drugs

She's not like Eri Ayase to be honest. Mari Ohara is a "my pace" character with a loony personality!

If you're talking about a character similar to Ericchi, there's Dia Kurosawa. But unlike Eri Ayase, Dia-sama is a hardcore μ's fan.

[Pen3]

How is Eri not a μ's fan?