(L+CR) Fate/Grand Order: Zettai Majū Sensen Babylonia Anime General Discussion

[Applehell]

That quite a good ending.

In the end Uruk's destruction came to pass as Gilgamesh saw, but humanity survived the conflict to rebuild a new elsewhere. I didn't expect Quetz to have lived through literally going out in blaze of glory but given the last two sort had nearly everyone except for Eresh BSing their way back its par course. I suppose.

Everyone essentially got the send off they needed tho kinda what's gonna happen to underworld without Eresh there to administrate anymore...

Anyway, I rank this as definitely one of the better Fate adaptation. In fact I think enjoyed spin-offs stories (Zero, Apocalypse, Case Files and now this) than I have the main stuff except Heaven Feel's movies which is arguably the best of Fate for me. I supposed more due original series being an VN compared to the much more straightforward side material.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Applehell

That quite a good ending.

In the end Uruk's destruction came to pass as Gilgamesh saw, but humanity survived the conflict to rebuild a new elsewhere. I didn't expect Quetz to have lived through literally going out in blaze of glory but given the last two sort had nearly everyone except for Eresh BSing their way back its par course. I suppose.

Everyone essentially got the send off they needed tho kinda what's gonna happen to underworld without Eresh there to administrate anymore...

Anyway, I rank this as definitely one of the better Fate adaptation. In fact I think enjoyed spin-offs stories (Zero, Apocalypse, Case Files and now this) than I have the main stuff except Heaven Feel's movies which is arguably the best of Fate for me. I supposed more due original series being an VN compared to the much more straightforward side material.

Going by the, again English, version of the game it doesn't really matter since

Spoiler for Singularity:

Everything happened within the singularity, which is a confined space. i.E the moment the cause gets eliminated the singularity dies and everything reverts back to its original state, with no one remembering it having ever happened.

this concept becomes especially obvious during Oceanos where entire island atolls that shouldn't exist get wished into place with the grail.

It's basically : Mash collects Grail --> Everything returns to normal and all Servants vanish.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Going by the, again English, version of the game it doesn't really matter since

Spoiler for Singularity:

Everything happened within the singularity, which is a confined space. i.E the moment the cause gets eliminated the singularity dies and everything reverts back to its original state, which no one remembering it having ever happened.

this concept becomes especially obvious during Oceanos where entire island atolls that shouldn't exist get wished into place with the grail.

It's basically : Mash collects Grail --> Everything returns to normal and all Servants vanish.

Spoiler for that was retconned:

Gilgamesh reveals that people who die in Singularities also die in real history too, they are just 'corrected' in how they die. Instead of "a dragon ate this french peasant", they died due to the plague or something more mundane. Most likely, Roman didn't want to make Ritsuka or Mash feel depressed and guilty if someone died, so he carried those deaths for them as usual. Nasu says that Lion King's interference and Tiamat's awakening consequences were 'exceptions' as weren't the cause of the Singularity so they indeed got ignored and retconned, but all the rest stuck (so the final boss does have a super high death count with the many victims across time and space), which has some plot holes like how USA's founding fathers were all slaughtered by a bunch of magical celts led by Queen Medb so, what happened in history? And as you said, Okeanus... I can give a leeway to Orleans, because a lot of people were killed in real life by famine, plague, wars, so likely that was the result of the dragon thing in the background. I don't think Nasu considered all ramifications in London, USA and Okeanus, though.

For simplicity's sake, in the anime, they just made some people survive and show them (while there were no survivors in game). Otherwise, trying to explain the obviously contradicting "check Nasu's blog to understand" world-building would be terrible for the conclusion.

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Going by the, again English, version of the game it doesn't really matter since

Spoiler for Singularity:

Everything happened within the singularity, which is a confined space. i.E the moment the cause gets eliminated the singularity dies and everything reverts back to its original state, which no one remembering it having ever happened.

this concept becomes especially obvious during Oceanos where entire island atolls that shouldn't exist get wished into place with the grail.

It's basically : Mash collects Grail --> Everything returns to normal and all Servants vanish.

Originally Posted by Thess

Spoiler for that was retconned:

Gilgamesh reveals that people who die in Singularities also die in real history too, they are just 'corrected' in how they die. Instead of "a dragon ate this french peasant", they died due to the plague or something more mundane. Most likely, Roman didn't want to make Ritsuka or Mash feel depressed and guilty if someone died, so he carried those deaths for them as usual. Nasu says that Lion King's interference and Tiamat's awakening consequences were 'exceptions' as weren't the cause of the Singularity so they indeed got ignored and retconned, but all the rest stuck (so the final boss does have a super high death count with the many victims across time and space), which has some plot holes like how USA's founding fathers were all slaughtered by a bunch of magical celts led by Queen Medb so, what happened in history? And as you said, Okeanus... I can give a leeway to Orleans, because a lot of people were killed in real life by famine, plague, wars, so likely that was the result of the dragon thing in the background. I don't think Nasu considered all ramifications in London, USA and Okeanus, though.

For simplicity's sake, in the anime, they just made some people survive and show them (while there were no survivors in game). Otherwise, trying to explain the obviously contradicting "check Nasu's blog to understand" world-building would be terrible for the conclusion.

Ok, I get the general gist of it. Sounds kind of like a wonky explanation, but does tie in the whole this is a journey no one will remember. The Singularities where twisted version of real histories to begin and supposed would have replaced the real ones had they not been dealt with.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Thess

Spoiler for that was retconned:

Gilgamesh reveals that people who die in Singularities also die in real history too, they are just 'corrected' in how they die. Instead of "a dragon ate this french peasant", they died due to the plague or something more mundane. Most likely, Roman didn't want to make Ritsuka or Mash feel depressed and guilty if someone died, so he carried those deaths for them as usual. Nasu says that Lion King's interference and Tiamat's awakening consequences were 'exceptions' as weren't the cause of the Singularity so they indeed got ignored and retconned, but all the rest stuck (so the final boss does have a super high death count with the many victims across time and space), which has some plot holes like how USA's founding fathers were all slaughtered by a bunch of magical celts led by Queen Medb so, what happened in history? And as you said, Okeanus... I can give a leeway to Orleans, because a lot of people were killed in real life by famine, plague, wars, so likely that was the result of the dragon thing in the background. I don't think Nasu considered all ramifications in London, USA and Okeanus, though.

For simplicity's sake, in the anime, they just made some people survive and show them (while there were no survivors in game). Otherwise, trying to explain the obviously contradicting "check Nasu's blog to understand" world-building would be terrible for the conclusion.

Just another thing I'll ignore in my headcanon then, along with the origin of the gods. I mean their origin explains why Clarent opens up when activating, but takes all the myth and magic away. Moreover, it only leaves

Spoiler for remaining gods:

Tiamat (questionable, since Not-Rin called her mother), Medusa, Stehno and Euryale as native and moreover real gods(going by the sisters' words that they were created like that and that they are also immortal without cheating.

Spoiler for Answer regarding singularity deaths:

And yeah, that many people suddenly dying doesn't make sense. I mean fate follows the string theory, so it only affects the Caldea world line, while everything else should remain untouched, but even then, Caldea may not even exist in the future due to a small change while the ones made here were huge.

[Marcus H.]

Marathoning Episodes 17-21 was good decision. It better gave off the urgency of the situation, and now that the Journey of Humans and Gods in Uruk has ended, I can finally give out my final sentiments.

Honestly, I cannot fathom the trials faced by Ritsuka Fujimaru because I don't know about the story of the six previous singularities. However, Babylonia has provided that feeling of "culmination", where those previous experiences helped Ritsuka and Mash decide on what they should do as the the representatives of humanity that faces its end. I commend him for this foolhardiness, this charisma, this want to reach out to others... and Mash for her purity as a human with a longing for adventure, loyalty to Ritsuka's decisions, and strength inside and out. Without them he couldn't have woven this tapestry of victory for Uruk and Chaldea.

And now we face "finality". Ritsuka would at last face the reason why the journey to the singularities had to be done and, this time carrying the hopes and aspirations of those he lost and gained through all seven singularities.

Next Destination: Solomon.

ENTRY #358 GET.

[AC-Phoenix]

FInally managed to finish it...
So in the end Tiamat was just a yandere for humanity? LOL

Also.. Obviously Enmua Elish was the only thing that could defeat her... Gilga should have done that from the start lol. Remind me... How did Avalon block that thing again?

Somehow I think Hassan could have done that alone too though...(And Fou too) I don't really understand how Merlin could run over from Avalon when he isn't even born yet...

And... It's so Gilgamesh to drink out of the holy grail.. .(And offer alcohol to minors... wait why do they even care... they aren't minors in that time...)

[Thess]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

So in the end Tiamat was just a yandere for humanity? LOL

The Beasts are the Power of Love gone wrong.

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Also.. Obviously Enmua Elish was the only thing that could defeat her... Gilga should have done that from the start lol. Remind me... How did Avalon block that thing again?

It wouldn't have done anything to her in the beginning, you need to remove the layers of her immortality.

[AnimeFan188]

1st Fate/Grand Order Anime Film Slated for December 5 After COVID-19 Delay:

"The first film in the Fate/Grand Order The Movie Divine Realm of the Round Table:
Camelot (Fate/Grand Order Shinsei Entaku Ryōiki Camelot) film project has been
rescheduled to December 5. The film had been delayed from its August 15 opening, due
to the effects of the new coronavirus disease (COVID-19) on its production.

On Saturday, the online service Aniplex+ began selling sets of exclusive advance ticket
passes with acrylic mascots. The sets feature illustrations of the characters in traditional
Japanese yukata kimono for the summer. (People who already bought the film's advance
ticket passes can still use them.)"

See:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...-delay/.162467

[azenable]

Just watched the film in theater today. damm its a trilogy!