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Old 2023-05-15, 16:05   Link #1
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One Piece - Chapter 1084 [manga]

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It's that time, guys! Spoiler info comes courtesy of AP's Redon:

-Chapter title is "Attempted Murder of Celestial Dragons". Splash is a color page.

-As Sabo infiltrates the Pangaea Castle, he meets up with Jewelry Bonney! She entrusts him with saving her father as she decides to make her way to Egghead.Curiously, while sneaking around, Sabo overhears some guards mention something about a "Phantom Room". Meanwhile, continuing where we left off last chapter, Cobra meets with the Five Elders (aka Gorousei). Cobra brings up the topic of one of Alabasta's past monarchs, Queen Lily. She was actually one of the original founders of the World Government, but she refused to become a Celestial Dragon along with the other rulers. After the WG's establishment, Lily never returned to her homeland, nor were there any traces of her existence left after the Void Century. All that's known is that her younger brother took her place in ruling the country after her disappearance. Cobra asks the elders what happened to the queen, but they plead ignorance. This leads Cobra to ask them another question: What is the meaning of "D"? It seems the question is related to a letter that Lily left behind for the royal family prior to her disappearance....

-Meanwhile, Charloss makes another attempt to abduct Shirahoshi, but he gets thwarted by Sai and Leo (both of the Straw-Hat Grand Fleet, remember). Also, RA commander Morley frees Kuma from the CD's grasp! But at the end of the chapter we go back to Cobra, who has a face-to-face encounter with none other than..... IMU!!!! The enigmatic ruler utters the name "Lily" upon their meeting.....

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Old 2023-05-15, 16:19   Link #2
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I wonder if it will turn out Imu is this Lily. Maybe she wanted complete control but the other kings wouldn’t give her it. So she played the slow game by corrupting their descendant into easily controlled inbred assholes. Her history in Alabasta was a risk so she tried to take out its royal family when they started asking questions.
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Old 2023-05-15, 17:02   Link #3
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Seen the spoilers; Cobra talks to the Goroise and they try to kidnap Shiraoshi again, and about Imu, I think he surely knew that Lily girl and had something to do with her disappearance and maybe she told Cobra something before her death, well wait for the next one chapter.
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Old 2023-05-15, 17:03   Link #4
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I wonder if it will turn out Imu is this Lily. Maybe she wanted complete control but the other kings wouldn’t give her it. So she played the slow game by corrupting their descendant into easily controlled inbred assholes. Her history in Alabasta was a risk so she tried to take out its royal family when they started asking questions.
Nah, I think it's more likely that Im was in love with her and ended up killing her and the reason he had a poster of Vivi was because she looks exactly like Lily.
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Old 2023-05-17, 11:38   Link #5
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I'm more curious as to why they need to even cover it up. Whatever happened to Queen Lily I mean. Why would the masses or virtually anyone care what happened to someone centuries ago. Unless it is enough to shake the foundation of the WG itself.

Long shot, but do we actually get a clear image of Imu do you know?
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Old 2023-05-17, 13:26   Link #6
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Long shot, but do we actually get a clear image of Imu do you know?
'Fraid not. Still as mysteriously covered in shadows as before, unfortunately. Though I think this is the first time we've actually seen Imu speak, even if it's just the one name.

Also wow, Charloss got his head bashed in like a freaking accordion, lol. I WANT to say that's finally the end of him... but I won't be surprised if he somehow recovers and tries to kidnap Shirahoshi (or any other women ) again. Maybe Oda will leave it up to Luffy to finish the job once and for all....?
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Old 2023-05-17, 16:29   Link #7
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Yeah I'm in the ship who thinks imu has something to do with lili disappearance and not that imu is lili.

I think kanon has the right idea.

ps. loved the color page with all the girls <3
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Old 2023-05-17, 18:08   Link #8
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I guess Cobra knew he didn't have long to live and decided to go "fuck it, I'm going to ask them all the questions I've been meaning to" after all this time. It still feels a bit random he would ask about a woman who has disappeared 800 years ago regardless, unless that letter she left behind contains information that could turn the world upside down.

Glad to see Charlos get beaten to a pulp again, but yeah, he's probably going to be just fine. The murder of a Celestial Dragon would have made the news.

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ps. loved the color page with all the girls <3
I was wondering why Yamato was trending in the United States since she wasn't even in the chapter... geez, people are still hung up on that?
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I was wondering why Yamato was trending in the United States since she wasn't even in the chapter... geez, people are still hung up on that?
sad thing is if yamato is in the page or not it would be a problem either way.
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Old 2023-05-18, 11:14   Link #10
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I enjoy how Carlos got flattened by Sai and Leo. It reminds me of what Sentomaru did to Demalo at Sabaody after two years skip.

Mjosgard made a good decision to stop Mermaid Brothers. Leave the errands to Leo and Sai; they'll be fugitives since they were pirates while the Princes were safe. If the princes were involved, the Ryugu Kingdom would be targeted for sure.
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Old 2023-05-18, 18:54   Link #11
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Seen the chapter, Cobra spoke with the Goroise Sabo met, Sabo met with Bonney, Carlos was hit, Kuma was released and Imu appeared in front of Cobra, I guess the next chapter the old man will die and Sabo will be in the place (maybe there are also some revelations), to wait for the next chapter!.
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Old 2023-05-18, 23:49   Link #12
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Things are really connecting with this chapter. Imu making their appearance again with what little speech they have is certainly a highlight. Though we never got any names of the other elder stars since Jaygarcia Saturn.
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Old 2023-05-19, 19:59   Link #13
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Nah, I think it's more likely that Im was in love with her and ended up killing her and the reason he had a poster of Vivi was because she looks exactly like Lily.
Assuming that Imu is a male.
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Old 2023-05-22, 12:11   Link #14
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looks like this might be the incident Straw hat Alliance triggered. so looking like whatever happens after Egghead, will be a massive mobilization of the Navy
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Old 2023-05-23, 05:28   Link #15
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looks like this might be the incident Straw hat Alliance triggered. so looking like whatever happens after Egghead, will be a massive mobilization of the Navy
Nah, it's already obvious that the massive mobilization is because of Vegapunk's dangerous assets.

Vegapunk is one of the Government's top assets, and killing him would require heavy firepower due to formidable defenses.

Furthermore, Mjosgard decision to stop Fukaboshi is a wise one, since Leo and Sai are pirates, and they participate because they were hired as an escort. Letting Leo and Sai hit Charlos would allow them to go scot-free, since there was chaos.

In addition, we have already seen that the Ryugu Royal Family were returned safely as Garp have tea with them before leaves, but the curious part is how they were safe, which was told in these chapters.
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Nah, it's already obvious that the massive mobilization is because of Vegapunk's dangerous assets.

Vegapunk is one of the Government's top assets, and killing him would require heavy firepower due to formidable defenses.

Furthermore, Mjosgard decision to stop Fukaboshi is a wise one, since Leo and Sai are pirates, and they participate because they were hired as an escort. Letting Leo and Sai hit Charlos would allow them to go scot-free, since there was chaos.

In addition, we have already seen that the Ryugu Royal Family were returned safely as Garp have tea with them before leaves, but the curious part is how they were safe, which was told in these chapters.
I'm just going back to chapter 800 where, it says the SH grand fleet will trigger a major incident, since Sai and Leo both attempted murder of a CD it might be what that ending means right? I don't think the VP one is that big, they brought Kizaru but considering Luffy an emperor they really didn't do much. why the 5 elder is there I think he wants to talk things out with him.
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I'm just going back to chapter 800 where, it says the SH grand fleet will trigger a major incident, since Sai and Leo both attempted murder of a CD it might be what that ending means right? I don't think the VP one is that big, they brought Kizaru but considering Luffy an emperor they really didn't do much. why the 5 elder is there I think he wants to talk things out with him.
No, Kizaru was assigned as an escort for one of the Gorosei. If it does trigger a major incident, we'll just see how it works out. Furthermore, the goal is to kill Vegapunk, not to talk it out. Gorosei was paranoid about the void centuries, in which they try to conceal it as much as possible. They shut Ohara about it, and they'll shut any of those who try to discover it.

Oda already confirms that the entire Ryugu Royal Family is safe, Vivi is with Morgans, and the last thing we need to know is Sai and Leo's safety, along with Dressrosa's royals. Issho and Ryokugyu have their hands tied dealing with Revolutionaries, and furthermore, Sai and Leo were under the authorization of Mjosgard, a Celestial Dragon to hit Charlos.

If it was major incident, it would be where no one comes to cover them, unless Oda intends to make it a major incident where Sai and Leo hits Charlos under the authorization of Mjosgard.
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No, Kizaru was assigned as an escort for one of the Gorosei. If it does trigger a major incident, we'll just see how it works out. Furthermore, the goal is to kill Vegapunk, not to talk it out. Gorosei was paranoid about the void centuries, in which they try to conceal it as much as possible. They shut Ohara about it, and they'll shut any of those who try to discover it.

Oda already confirms that the entire Ryugu Royal Family is safe, Vivi is with Morgans, and the last thing we need to know is Sai and Leo's safety, along with Dressrosa's royals. Issho and Ryokugyu have their hands tied dealing with Revolutionaries, and furthermore, Sai and Leo were under the authorization of Mjosgard, a Celestial Dragon to hit Charlos.

If it was major incident, it would be where no one comes to cover them, unless Oda intends to make it a major incident where Sai and Leo hits Charlos under the authorization of Mjosgard.
I don't quite understand why that Elder Saturn is there if the order is just to kill VP under any means. he must want to see or talk to someone over there. the Revolutionaries already left right? I think SAbo was the only one that didn't leave with them and it's how he got away at Lulucia. what I think is going to happen is that Royal guard some members are going to hunt down or ( have imprisoned already?) Leo and Sai as they probably had to escape somewhere, and likely they might seek out Luffy for protection and we'll have our first huge skirmish and we get introduced to that Royal Guard
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I don't quite understand why that Elder Saturn is there if the order is just to kill VP under any means. he must want to see or talk to someone over there. the Revolutionaries already left right? I think SAbo was the only one that didn't leave with them and it's how he got away at Lulucia. what I think is going to happen is that Royal guard some members are going to hunt down or ( have imprisoned already?) Leo and Sai as they probably had to escape somewhere, and likely they might seek out Luffy for protection and we'll have our first huge skirmish and we get introduced to that Royal Guard
Here's the thing.
  • One of Gorosei was always sortied every time someone is close to reveal the truth behind the Void Century. At Ohara, one of Gorosei comes to visit Professor Clover personally before ordering Spandine to kill Clover. Should Vegapunk also do the same thing, that'll mean that Vegapunk is also close to revealing the truth about Void Century, in which Gorosei must sortie in person to deal with this.
  • Sabo was interested with one of the Guards talk about the Phantom Room, which prompts him to investigate to verify it.
  • As for Sai and Leo, they can hitchhike on King Riku Dold or King Prodence to escape. Seeking Luffy's protection is very unlikely, since they don't want to cause him trouble.
  • If Shanks turns out to be one of the Holy Knights, when encountering Sabo, Shanks won't harm him should he knows his relationship with Luffy. Knowing that Luffy will someday return the Straw Hat to him personally, there's a high chance that Shanks would let Sabo go.

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