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Stark700 · 2021-08-02, 08:53

Manga Uchi no Shishou wa Shippo ga Nai (My Master Has No Tail) is getting an anime adaptation.

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The fantasy story takes place in Japan's Taishō era (1912–1926). It follows Mameda, a shape-shifting tanuki girl who dreams of becoming human. Mame transforms her outward appearance into a pretty raven-haired human girl and heads to the bustling city of Osaka. However, people instantly see through Mameda's guise, and one beautiful woman ruthlessly says to the dejected Mameda, "Go back where you came from." As it turns out, that woman named Bunko is herself a supernatural creature who transformed herself into a rakugo (comic storytelling) storyteller. Mameda begs Bunko to become her master and teach her the ways of playing a human.

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MisaoFan · 2022-01-06, 05:19

Premiere date is April 2022

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https://youtu.be/4FUd6KSp6ZE

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Hideyo Yamamoto (Strike the Blood series, Magical Girl Spec Ops Asuka, Cells at Work! Code Black) is directing the anime at LIDEN FILMS. Touko Machida (Lucky Star, The IDOLM@STER series) is supervising the series scripts and writing them with Kei Shimobayashi, Aya Satsuki, and Yūho Togashi. Ryō Yamauchi (Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress: The Battle of Unato sub-sharacter designs) is serving as both character designer and chief animation director.

The television anime will star M.A.O as Mameda and Hibiku Yamamura as Bunko.

So the Sigururi duo is in it.

Stark700 · 2022-03-26, 02:36

Looks like it got delayed to October (Fall) 2022

serenade_beta · 2022-09-30, 23:47

Spoiler for ep1:

Dop · 2022-10-01, 07:25

I really enjoyed that. Liked the setting and the tower sequence had me in stitches.

Ghostfriendly · 2022-10-08, 09:27

Loving this so far, cute bumbling tanuki and sharp-tongued fox are a great combination, with a few shoujo-ai hints. Something like a more light hearted Eccentric Family, with flying boats, Tanuki society and encroaching modernity. If only Raphtalia had been in a decent show like this, where she could actually be a traditional tanuki rather than a degraded sex slave. It appears as if Shōwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjū treats its female characters terribly, so its good see one female Rakugo performer without any needless fuss about it, or unhelpful unplanned pregnancies.

The Rakugo certainly doesn't carry over too well, but I can tell its meant to be funny. Is it necessary to essentially repeat the same story at the end, because Japanese audience would also find old stories hard to understand?

serenade_beta · 2022-10-08, 13:58

Spoiler for ep2:

Ghostfriendly · 2022-10-09, 06:14

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Maybe another fox is going to turn up...

Ghostfriendly · 2022-10-29, 05:13

'Good and bad days to propose a lovers' suicide'???

Rakugo would always be introduced as 'slightly idiotic tales' by Mr Penguin in Shirokuma Cafe, and some of them more than slightly, but the yakuza story from ep 4 plausibly got through to the antagonist. The 'fortune telling teahouse' in ep 5 actually came across as a credible illustration of human fickleness that a skilled performer could make quite a show of.

Loving Mameda's antics, her drumming and her quiet chemistry with Bunko. The shamisen transformation was hilarious and made for quite a steamy ending.

Ghostfriendly · 2022-11-19, 18:46

Bunko's master should be proud of having been a political prisoner.

The lack of apparent interest in this show is a great pity. The rakugo may be a bit over-the-hill, but the comedy and characters are lovely.

BBOvenGuy · 2022-11-19, 20:06

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The lack of apparent interest in this show is a great pity. The rakugo may be a bit over-the-hill, but the comedy and characters are lovely.

Yeah, I thought it would get more attention, too. The reviewers at Anime Feminist have too much Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu in their minds when they watch it - and that's by their own admission, not my judgment. Maybe they're not alone.

Did anyone else notice that the leaf on Mameda's head changed color with the season? It was green before, and this week it was yellow. What's the leaf there for, anyway? Does it have something to do with tanuki mythology?

Ghostfriendly · 2022-11-23, 18:34

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Yeah, I thought it would get more attention, too. The reviewers at Anime Feminist have too much Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu in their minds when they watch it - and that's by their own admission, not my judgment. Maybe they're not alone.

Did anyone else notice that the leaf on Mameda's head changed color with the season? It was green before, and this week it was yellow. What's the leaf there for, anyway? Does it have something to do with tanuki mythology?

I can't think of the source, but I think they're meant to put a leaf on their head to change shape. Nice to notice that it's changing colour.

The outlines of Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu really struck me as another story about self-centred idiots. The only appeal of the tengu in Eccentric Family was to show what lovely furballs the tanuki were for putting up with their arrogance.

BBOvenGuy · 2022-12-03, 02:11

It's spring, and Mameda's leaf is back to green.

"Jugemu" has a special and prominent role in Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu. It's the story Konatsu does for Shinnosuke's school, the first time she performs rakugo in public. In Rakugo Shinjuu, women absolutely positively do not perform rakugo, which I suspect is closer to historical reality than this show. But then, in a universe where foxes and tanuki can do rakugo, I guess women can as well.

Ghostfriendly · 2022-12-13, 16:55

Sentimentalising the old days when folk respected nature and the gods usually means glossing over everything that was worse, but it's an unsurprising point of view for a fox spirit. An usually intense episode 11 to hint at the darkness outside Mameda's happy-go-lucky world, as well as giving Bunko and her master some impactful depth of character.

BBOvenGuy · 2022-12-17, 02:39

Well, there's one way to deal with comparisons to Rakugo Shinjuu. Just create a character who's a knock-off of Kikuhiko/Yakumo and then get the guy who played Kikuhiko/Yakumo to voice him...

Dop · 2022-12-17, 08:21

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Well, there's one way to deal with comparisons to Rakugo Shinjuu. Just create a character who's a knock-off of Kikuhiko/Yakumo and then get the guy who played Kikuhiko/Yakumo to voice him...

Heh, I was watching that scene and all I could think was "Man, I really want to rewatch Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu again!"

Ghostfriendly · 2022-12-19, 07:45

I would watch Rakugo Shinjuu if there were characters knocked-off from Bunko and Mameda, though I get the impression that Yakumo had a much more deep and personal understanding of women than a user of prostitutes, likewise selling men a distorted image of femininity.

Utaroku reminds me of the story where Dustin Hoffman went to great trouble embodying a character, while Laurence Olivier just acted; Mameda's well-expressed professionalism in carrying on over the noise is as valuable to a real artist as 'brilliance'. Although anyone who could make people laugh at some of the stinkers in these Rakugo stories would be a brilliant artist indeed, though frankly pretentious to make this fuss about the right to recite comic monologues. British music hall had its 'memory men', as well as Billy Bennett and Stan Holloway, who are similarly dated but as wise and at least as funny, without fancy titles or inheritance disputes.

Everyone a little bit of a cultural chauvinist, as the song went. Especially the 'these foreigners are crazy' dismissal of Mameda's thoughts on the afterlife - Mameda's views as an super-Japanese magical tanuki are naturally going to differ from the Japanese 'monoculture', which, like Middle-American and English culture have never been shared by all the people. Whatever Mameda wants to do, I like her; I don't like Utaroku or any of the Rakugo Shinjuu characters.

Still, his clap-going-on-too-long was quite effective. Kirino's cat impersonation was quite nice, and nice that Bunko and Mameda seem to be reuniting in the next episode.

BBOvenGuy · 2022-12-19, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Ghostfriendly

I would watch Rakugo Shinjuu if there were characters knocked-off from Bunko and Mameda, though I get the impression that Yakumo had a much more deep and personal understanding of women than a user of prostitutes, likewise selling men a distorted image of femininity.

You couldn't have characters based on Bunko and Mameda because in Rakugo Shinjuu women aren't allowed to do rakugo until modern times. Not only is that historically accurate, but it's also an important element of Konatsu's story arc.

And yes, one of Yakumo's strengths was his ability to portray female characters in his stories.

Ghostfriendly · 2022-12-20, 13:09

Bunko and Mameda could transform into men if necessary, because Tanuki and Kitsune are cool like that, or use their performance skills to impersonate men, like the immortal Lady Oscar. Or proudly perform as women because there's a place for serious stories like Lone Wolf and Cub, that show how cruel and unfair the the world has been, and is, but also a place to say that past and contemporary prejudices never deserved to exist. Masses of human injustice and stupidity always remain to be written about, as in Shishou wa Shippo, even if New York cops in FAKE can snog on a busy street without comment.

If we're going to talk about other series involving rakugo, Shirokuma Cafe memorably portrayed modern amateur rakugo as a ridiculous bore. Shishou wa Shippo is indeed a fairly light series on character development, where I didn't think Bunko's backstory in ep 11 was much foreshadowed in her earlier conduct, except very generally in her prickly attitude and generally applicable comments on progress. With all her master's baggage, ep 11 seemed like it was from a different series; a hard focus on Bunko and Mameda's relationship might have been better than introducing a new character every episode, all related to the master whom protagonist Mameda has no relationship with. Still, the events and aspirations of the show have been unobjectionable, commendable, cute and amusing.

serenade_beta · 2022-12-23, 19:58

Spoiler for final thoughts:

2022-03-26, 02:36	Link #3
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Looks like it got delayed to October (Fall) 2022 <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/um7Si6ZmeVE">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________

2022-09-30, 23:47	Link #4
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep1: I couldn't care less about rakugo, unfortunately for this anime, but other than that, I think it was a decent first episode. Unfortunately, not too sure where this story will go. Will it just do rakugo jokes? Or are we gonna get fantasy drama over tanukis and that fox shadow seen in the OP? Will the fantasy be interesting enough to cover for the rakugo, where I'm just sitting here staring at the screen when apparently she said something really funny? Luckily for this anime, there isn't much competition for today. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2022-10-08, 09:27	Link #6
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Loving this so far, cute bumbling tanuki and sharp-tongued fox are a great combination, with a few shoujo-ai hints. Something like a more light hearted Eccentric Family, with flying boats, Tanuki society and encroaching modernity. If only Raphtalia had been in a decent show like this, where she could actually be a traditional tanuki rather than a degraded sex slave. It appears as if Shōwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjū treats its female characters terribly, so its good see one female Rakugo performer without any needless fuss about it, or unhelpful unplanned pregnancies. The Rakugo certainly doesn't carry over too well, but I can tell its meant to be funny. Is it necessary to essentially repeat the same story at the end, because Japanese audience would also find old stories hard to understand? Last edited by Ghostfriendly; 2022-10-08 at 10:12.

2022-10-08, 13:58	Link #7
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep2: I could not tell from the first episode, but I guess the fact Bunko is a fox is already known. The OP kinda makes the fox thing seem... mysterious or something. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2022-12-23, 19:58	Link #20
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for final thoughts: 7/10 It was fine, but it wasn't significantly interesting to watch in any way. I kinda felt that some of the VAs did rakugo better than others, but well, that can't be helped much Also, the ending arc where Mameda went around getting approval from the rest of the cast felt really linear and predictable, and a girl that needs a metronome to talk and a guy who is sick weren't exactly interesting character traits But the character designs I did like, and it wasn't really bad in any way. Overall a stable anime, with not many ups or downs, but did have a few good moments Considering I don't really know anything about rakugo, I enjoyed it enough. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2022-10-01, 07:25	Link #5
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	I really enjoyed that. Liked the setting and the tower sequence had me in stitches.

2022-10-29, 05:13	Link #9
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	'Good and bad days to propose a lovers' suicide'??? Rakugo would always be introduced as 'slightly idiotic tales' by Mr Penguin in Shirokuma Cafe, and some of them more than slightly, but the yakuza story from ep 4 plausibly got through to the antagonist. The 'fortune telling teahouse' in ep 5 actually came across as a credible illustration of human fickleness that a skilled performer could make quite a show of. Loving Mameda's antics, her drumming and her quiet chemistry with Bunko. The shamisen transformation was hilarious and made for quite a steamy ending.

2022-11-19, 18:46	Link #10
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Bunko's master should be proud of having been a political prisoner. The lack of apparent interest in this show is a great pity. The rakugo may be a bit over-the-hill, but the comedy and characters are lovely.

2022-12-03, 02:11	Link #13
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	It's spring, and Mameda's leaf is back to green. "Jugemu" has a special and prominent role in Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu. It's the story Konatsu does for Shinnosuke's school, the first time she performs rakugo in public. In Rakugo Shinjuu, women absolutely positively do not perform rakugo, which I suspect is closer to historical reality than this show. But then, in a universe where foxes and tanuki can do rakugo, I guess women can as well.

2022-12-13, 16:55	Link #14
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Sentimentalising the old days when folk respected nature and the gods usually means glossing over everything that was worse, but it's an unsurprising point of view for a fox spirit. An usually intense episode 11 to hint at the darkness outside Mameda's happy-go-lucky world, as well as giving Bunko and her master some impactful depth of character.

2022-12-17, 02:39	Link #15
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	Well, there's one way to deal with comparisons to Rakugo Shinjuu. Just create a character who's a knock-off of Kikuhiko/Yakumo and then get the guy who played Kikuhiko/Yakumo to voice him...

2022-12-19, 07:45	Link #17
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	I would watch Rakugo Shinjuu if there were characters knocked-off from Bunko and Mameda, though I get the impression that Yakumo had a much more deep and personal understanding of women than a user of prostitutes, likewise selling men a distorted image of femininity. Utaroku reminds me of the story where Dustin Hoffman went to great trouble embodying a character, while Laurence Olivier just acted; Mameda's well-expressed professionalism in carrying on over the noise is as valuable to a real artist as 'brilliance'. Although anyone who could make people laugh at some of the stinkers in these Rakugo stories would be a brilliant artist indeed, though frankly pretentious to make this fuss about the right to recite comic monologues. British music hall had its 'memory men', as well as Billy Bennett and Stan Holloway, who are similarly dated but as wise and at least as funny, without fancy titles or inheritance disputes. Everyone a little bit of a cultural chauvinist, as the song went. Especially the 'these foreigners are crazy' dismissal of Mameda's thoughts on the afterlife - Mameda's views as an super-Japanese magical tanuki are naturally going to differ from the Japanese 'monoculture', which, like Middle-American and English culture have never been shared by all the people. Whatever Mameda wants to do, I like her; I don't like Utaroku or any of the Rakugo Shinjuu characters. Still, his clap-going-on-too-long was quite effective. Kirino's cat impersonation was quite nice, and nice that Bunko and Mameda seem to be reuniting in the next episode.

2022-12-20, 13:09	Link #19
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Bunko and Mameda could transform into men if necessary, because Tanuki and Kitsune are cool like that, or use their performance skills to impersonate men, like the immortal Lady Oscar. Or proudly perform as women because there's a place for serious stories like Lone Wolf and Cub, that show how cruel and unfair the the world has been, and is, but also a place to say that past and contemporary prejudices never deserved to exist. Masses of human injustice and stupidity always remain to be written about, as in Shishou wa Shippo, even if New York cops in FAKE can snog on a busy street without comment. If we're going to talk about other series involving rakugo, Shirokuma Cafe memorably portrayed modern amateur rakugo as a ridiculous bore. Shishou wa Shippo is indeed a fairly light series on character development, where I didn't think Bunko's backstory in ep 11 was much foreshadowed in her earlier conduct, except very generally in her prickly attitude and generally applicable comments on progress. With all her master's baggage, ep 11 seemed like it was from a different series; a hard focus on Bunko and Mameda's relationship might have been better than introducing a new character every episode, all related to the master whom protagonist Mameda has no relationship with. Still, the events and aspirations of the show have been unobjectionable, commendable, cute and amusing.