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Kairin · 2015-07-30, 11:22

As the title of this thread suggest, the purpose here is to allow discussion which compares the content between an anime episode as it aired and how it is laid out in the source material the anime was adapted from. All spoilers are allowed as long as it is relevant to the discussion at hand. It will be helpful if the posters clearly indicate the episode number before engaging into a detailed comparison to the source material. Obviously you are required to watch the episode prior to posting here. Thread is open to everyone, but since the novel/manga readers are expected to participate, the anime-only viewers are advised to use discretion before venturing into this thread.

For the GATE Novel/Manga-Readers: Please do your darndest best to stay on topic when engaging into these comparison. Whenever you see one of your fellow novel/manga-reader is spewing spoiler for no apparent reason, feel free to tell him/her to stop. Report such post so a moderator can delete the off-topic post.

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Random Wanderer · 2015-07-31, 19:52

Just for the sake of saying it in the proper place, I'll repost my comment from the episode five thread:

I haven't read the novels, but after watching through episode 4 I went and read the manga, and this episode [episode 5] was certainly a lot less graphic than what was shown there. The bandits didn't even have to mutilate any of the bodies here for the line to break, while in the manga they were cutting apart the bodies of women and throwing them into the crowd to rile them up, and so on. I suppose that would require a different timeslot.

Hmm.... · 2015-08-01, 07:08

Finally, a proper thread to vent our gripes.

The censorship in episode 5 isn't that bad. They still show what suppose to happen. The bandits did kill villagers, display them and taunt others into attack. I only puzzle that why all the victims must be male. There is no need for nudity. There is no need for mutilation. Just make one of the victim female. Has one of villager cry out "That is my wife !!", then charging in rage. How hard could that be ? More dramatic, more faithful and nothing too offensive is shown.

As for episode 6, They just need to recycle animation from Rory introduction in ep3 and battle of Alnus in ep2. Then, they should have a good episode in their hand. Please don't fuck it up.

Myssa Rei · 2015-08-01, 07:20

I was kind of disappointed at how we lost the Zabi family reference with the Formal family, but at least this time around the episode didn't shy away from the violence of the Italica battle. That said, it's still pretty sanitized compared to the manga -- as Random mentioned, the deserters used women, whose bodies were then mutilated in front of their relatives, to rile the defenders up.

Shinji103 · 2015-08-01, 14:36

Naked dead women, and it was inferred that they were raped. (plus it went as graphic as to show wooden needles sticking out of their dead eyes)
So yeah, I don't have a problem with that being sanitized.

Sheba · 2015-08-01, 16:06

I read about it and am starting to think that the author wanted to throw JSDF in the world of Berserk but decided against it.

Starway · 2015-08-05, 07:29

Found a good comparison list for the main characters slight spoilers for anime only people.

Spoiler for very very big picture know any way to make it smaller?:

Personally for me the best designs from top to bottom are
Manga/anime
light novel/manga
Light novel
Light novel
Light novel
Manga

nojay · 2015-08-05, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Shinji103

wooden needles sticking out of their dead eyes

That was a broken-off arrow shaft.

Hmm.... · 2015-08-05, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starway

Found a good comparison list for the main characters slight spoilers for anime only people.

Spoiler for very very big picture know any way to make it smaller?:

Nice list you have there.
My personal completely bias preferred design is manga one

Light novel artwork is also very nice too.

Apache Thunder · 2015-08-05, 14:10

I've noticed that the Anime designs overall appear to be more closely related to the Light Novel designs then the manga designs. Still different, but not as different as the Manga. For example, the head band thing on Rory in the LN design has a closer similarity to the anime design. The manga had some frills behind the main headband that obscured the hair behind the gap. But in the LN the frills are in the front and are in one color (they sorta closely resemble the bow tie type thing with the anime design and like the anime, you can more clearly see the gap in-between the two halves of the head band. The LN design is also less "frilly" in the dark areas compared to the manga and isn't as folded.

The anime version have them much more pointy and taller (they sorta resemble cat ears), but the edging on them and solid coloring of the dark parts closely resemble the LN designs where the manga had them sorta of frilly/folded texture in the dark part. The rest of her dress is hard for me to make out because the LN illistration shown in the post above doesn't show most of her body.

Tuka/Chuka doesn't seem to have changed much at all through the LN/Manga/Anime, so it's hard to tell with her. (not sure which name for her is correct, there appears to be some translation differences between the anime and manga names. I've seen subtitles for the anime show Rory's god as "Emloy" in the anime where I think I saw it as "Emroy" in a English translation of the manga. Neither translations are official though so perhaps this kind of discrepancy is to be expected. (would like to know which would be correct though. :P )

The design of Princess Pina from the LN is also much closer to the anime design then the manga. Mainly the design of the face and hair. There's still differences of the jewelry and clothing though. It's harder to tell with Itami. Though I think his face (mainly the eyes perhaps) in the LN are a closer match to the anime then the manga.

So this is perhaps an indication which one they are actually using for the source material in the anime adaptation?

Velsy · 2015-08-07, 13:56

What was that... Rori is suppose to be terrifying in battle. She goes hysterical/batshit in combat. Just isnt as interesting if shes just pushing them around. If shes going to push them around, she should be using a maul.

did I get the wrong impression in the manga? or is the anime kinda lacking in showing her true battle prowess?

Flower · 2015-08-07, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Velsy

What was that... Rori is suppose to be terrifying in battle. She goes hysterical/batshit in combat. Just isnt as interesting if shes just pushing them around. If shes going to push them around, she should be using a maul.

did I get the wrong impression in the manga? or is the anime kinda lacking in showing her true battle prowess?

Personal opinion wise I kinda felt so ... but its sorta understandable to me: in the manga at least when they show her battle prowess it often involves gruesome results, so I chalk that up to the slight changes they made in how she fought - things like that are unlikely to be shown on tv.

Go0gleplex · 2015-08-07, 17:58

Yup. Rory in combat (and the whole battle for Italica for that matter) was sanitized for the censors. Her in the air scene for example, in the manga she went inverted and flashed and decapitated the lot of the spearmen balanced on one hand; while in the episode only went straight up twirling and of course the dust obscured the slaughter.

While the sanitation does take out a lot of the visceral impact of the story, I can see they were going for a wider age range for their audience with the anime...and they aren't messing things up too badly yet because of it.

Top Sergeant · 2015-08-07, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Go0gleplex

Yup. Rory in combat (and the whole battle for Italica for that matter) was sanitized for the censors. Her in the air scene for example, in the manga she went inverted and flashed and decapitated the lot of the spearmen balanced on one hand; while in the episode only went straight up twirling and of course the dust obscured the slaughter.

While the sanitation does take out a lot of the visceral impact of the story, I can see they were going for a wider age range for their audience with the anime...and they aren't messing things up too badly yet because of it.

Point taken, but I do note that they do bring in the blood to emphasize a part of a scene every now and then. In this episode, it was the enemy commander impaled on Rory's halberd, his blood raining down and onto her face as she looked up at him, begging her for an answer she never gave. This method does have the advantage of bringing the viewer's attention to a particular image, keeping it from being lost in what might otherwise be commonplace blood splatter.

Velsy · 2015-08-08, 04:32

Yeah the whole no blood thing is stupid. I understand having people cut in half is somewhat disturbing, but not even and blood trails or puddles appearing after each swing. They're making her our as someone who has no intent to kill, but rather tease. Doesn't do any justice to Roris character/personality. Might as well be called Rori the troll if thats how they intend to portray her.

She is my favourit character of the series, so I guess its annoying how much they are messing up with her.

GreyZone · 2015-08-08, 04:47

It seems the blood is coming and going. Last episode it was more visible... it seems like it really depends on the current episode director for how much blood is shown.

Apache Thunder · 2015-08-08, 09:59

Yeah I'm hoping who ever is directing the episode with Rory cutting down American Special Forces will not be the one that did episode 6. I suppose we'll never see the straight up beheading and limb removing slaughter that Rory is capable of. But I'm hoping it will be a little bit more evident that she's killing people. :P

If it's closer to what she did in episode 3, I would be happy. :P

Random Wanderer · 2015-08-08, 11:52

In other news we got a good view of Myuute in episode 6. I don't know if this is a discrepency or not because we've never seen her in color, but I had no idea her feathers were green. For some reason I had the impression they were blue or gray.

Flower · 2015-08-08, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

In other news we got a good view of Myuute in episode 6. I don't know if this is a discrepency or not because we've never seen her in color, but I had no idea her feathers were green. For some reason I had the impression they were blue or gray.

I was kinda taken aback by the color choices as well ... I did not expect them to be so ... vivid, I guess?

risingstar3110 · 2015-08-15, 22:53

As mentioned, I think the anime kinda ruined the princess character IMO. She has became so generic now. Unlike her manipulative/ over-thinking/ over-analysing portrayed elsewhere.

For example the part where she saw the shooting range and thought about stealing/ replicating the guns to give the Imperial a fighting chance. But then her plan was completely crushed when Lelei introduced the tank.

Or when she tried to plot out ways to prevent an all out war (including chase after and eliminate Itami's soldiers) or how the decision to follow the guys back to their base supposed to be a big deal and she were readily to sacrifice herself.

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Kairin AnimeSuki's Mascot Join Date: Apr 2006	GATE - Weekly Episode-to-Novel/Manga Comparison Thread [Spoilers Aplenty] As the title of this thread suggest, the purpose here is to allow discussion which compares the content between an anime episode as it aired and how it is laid out in the source material the anime was adapted from. All spoilers are allowed as long as it is relevant to the discussion at hand. It will be helpful if the posters clearly indicate the episode number before engaging into a detailed comparison to the source material. Obviously you are required to watch the episode prior to posting here. Thread is open to everyone, but since the novel/manga readers are expected to participate, the anime-only viewers are advised to use discretion before venturing into this thread. For the GATE Novel/Manga-Readers: Please do your darndest best to stay on topic when engaging into these comparison. Whenever you see one of your fellow novel/manga-reader is spewing spoiler for no apparent reason, feel free to tell him/her to stop. Report such post so a moderator can delete the off-topic post. Have fun!

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Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Just for the sake of saying it in the proper place, I'll repost my comment from the episode five thread: I haven't read the novels, but after watching through episode 4 I went and read the manga, and this episode [episode 5] was certainly a lot less graphic than what was shown there. The bandits didn't even have to mutilate any of the bodies here for the line to break, while in the manga they were cutting apart the bodies of women and throwing them into the crowd to rile them up, and so on. I suppose that would require a different timeslot. __________________

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Hmm.... Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Finally, a proper thread to vent our gripes. The censorship in episode 5 isn't that bad. They still show what suppose to happen. The bandits did kill villagers, display them and taunt others into attack. I only puzzle that why all the victims must be male. There is no need for nudity. There is no need for mutilation. Just make one of the victim female. Has one of villager cry out "That is my wife !!", then charging in rage. How hard could that be ? More dramatic, more faithful and nothing too offensive is shown. As for episode 6, They just need to recycle animation from Rory introduction in ep3 and battle of Alnus in ep2. Then, they should have a good episode in their hand. Please don't fuck it up. __________________ (\__/) (O.o ) (> < ) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination!

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Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	I was kind of disappointed at how we lost the Zabi family reference with the Formal family, but at least this time around the episode didn't shy away from the violence of the Italica battle. That said, it's still pretty sanitized compared to the manga -- as Random mentioned, the deserters used *women*, whose bodies were then mutilated in front of their relatives, to rile the defenders up. __________________

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Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	Naked dead women, and it was inferred that they were raped. (plus it went as graphic as to show wooden needles sticking out of their dead eyes) So yeah, I don't have a problem with that being sanitized. __________________

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Starway Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Perth	Found a good comparison list for the main characters slight spoilers for anime only people. Spoiler for very very big picture know any way to make it smaller?: Personally for me the best designs from top to bottom are Manga/anime light novel/manga Light novel Light novel Light novel Manga __________________ FGO:493070916; Leader: Drake level 90

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Apache Thunder Interdimensional Spy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Levelland, Texas USA	I've noticed that the Anime designs overall appear to be more closely related to the Light Novel designs then the manga designs. Still different, but not as different as the Manga. For example, the head band thing on Rory in the LN design has a closer similarity to the anime design. The manga had some frills behind the main headband that obscured the hair behind the gap. But in the LN the frills are in the front and are in one color (they sorta closely resemble the bow tie type thing with the anime design and like the anime, you can more clearly see the gap in-between the two halves of the head band. The LN design is also less "frilly" in the dark areas compared to the manga and isn't as folded. The anime version have them much more pointy and taller (they sorta resemble cat ears), but the edging on them and solid coloring of the dark parts closely resemble the LN designs where the manga had them sorta of frilly/folded texture in the dark part. The rest of her dress is hard for me to make out because the LN illistration shown in the post above doesn't show most of her body. Tuka/Chuka doesn't seem to have changed much at all through the LN/Manga/Anime, so it's hard to tell with her. (not sure which name for her is correct, there appears to be some translation differences between the anime and manga names. I've seen subtitles for the anime show Rory's god as "Emloy" in the anime where I think I saw it as "Emroy" in a English translation of the manga. Neither translations are official though so perhaps this kind of discrepancy is to be expected. (would like to know which would be correct though. :P ) The design of Princess Pina from the LN is also much closer to the anime design then the manga. Mainly the design of the face and hair. There's still differences of the jewelry and clothing though. It's harder to tell with Itami. Though I think his face (mainly the eyes perhaps) in the LN are a closer match to the anime then the manga. So this is perhaps an indication which one they are actually using for the source material in the anime adaptation? __________________ I have cameras in your head! Last edited by Apache Thunder; 2015-08-05 at 14:26.

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Velsy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	What was that... Rori is suppose to be terrifying in battle. She goes hysterical/batshit in combat. Just isnt as interesting if shes just pushing them around. If shes going to push them around, she should be using a maul. did I get the wrong impression in the manga? or is the anime kinda lacking in showing her true battle prowess? __________________ Donated by Om Nerabdator Last edited by Velsy; 2015-08-08 at 04:18.

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Go0gleplex The Old Guy Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Oregon, USA	Yup. Rory in combat (and the whole battle for Italica for that matter) was sanitized for the censors. Her in the air scene for example, in the manga she went inverted and flashed and decapitated the lot of the spearmen balanced on one hand; while in the episode only went straight up twirling and of course the dust obscured the slaughter. While the sanitation does take out a lot of the visceral impact of the story, I can see they were going for a wider age range for their audience with the anime...and they aren't messing things up too badly yet because of it. __________________ "Integrity is the only thing that has to be abandoned before it can be lost." "No society can thrive when it puts more money, effort, and emotion into its vices rather than its virtues." Harem of choice? Uzume, Rory Mercury, Raphtalia, and Yasaka.

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Velsy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Yeah the whole no blood thing is stupid. I understand having people cut in half is somewhat disturbing, but not even and blood trails or puddles appearing after each swing. They're making her our as someone who has no intent to kill, but rather tease. Doesn't do any justice to Roris character/personality. Might as well be called Rori the troll if thats how they intend to portray her. She is my favourit character of the series, so I guess its annoying how much they are messing up with her. __________________ Donated by Om Nerabdator

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GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	It seems the blood is coming and going. Last episode it was more visible... it seems like it really depends on the current episode director for how much blood is shown. __________________

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Apache Thunder Interdimensional Spy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Levelland, Texas USA	Yeah I'm hoping who ever is directing the episode with Rory cutting down American Special Forces will not be the one that did episode 6. I suppose we'll never see the straight up beheading and limb removing slaughter that Rory is capable of. But I'm hoping it will be a little bit more evident that she's killing people. :P If it's closer to what she did in episode 3, I would be happy. :P __________________ I have cameras in your head!

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Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	In other news we got a good view of Myuute in episode 6. I don't know if this is a discrepency or not because we've never seen her in color, but I had no idea her feathers were green. For some reason I had the impression they were blue or gray. __________________

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risingstar3110 ✘˵╹◡╹˶✘ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia	As mentioned, I think the anime kinda ruined the princess character IMO. She has became so generic now. Unlike her manipulative/ over-thinking/ over-analysing portrayed elsewhere. For example the part where she saw the shooting range and thought about stealing/ replicating the guns to give the Imperial a fighting chance. But then her plan was completely crushed when Lelei introduced the tank. Or when she tried to plot out ways to prevent an all out war (including chase after and eliminate Itami's soldiers) or how the decision to follow the guys back to their base supposed to be a big deal and she were readily to sacrifice herself. __________________ Last edited by risingstar3110; 2015-08-15 at 23:09.