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Old 2010-05-16, 02:57   Link #1
-KarumA-
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XP: blue screen, sysdata.xml/mini.dmp all because of a game

Heyaz everyone, I have some trouble/problem on ym computer all of a sudden. Let me get down to you about this:

I was playing a game called Allods, I was in fact first playing the US version of the game and everything was going fine for the past 3 days.

Yesterday I found out that there was a EU version of the game, since I had planned to play it with friends I had realized I was doing the wrong one.

So I downloaded the installer for the European version:

this is how the installation works, you first get a down loader which downloads the setup.exe file then afterward it starts unzipping it or compressing or whatever it was so that it could run. Then the setup installs and you only have to update the client.

Problems:
I had some trouble installing the EU version unlike the US one, it would hammer my cpu usage my computer would make very loud loading times and sometimes it wouldn't budge. This happened as soon as I pressed the browse button on the unzipper program. I was forced to reboot after that.

Well many troubled hours later I had installed the game and started updating to the latest version, but here is the thing in the midst I suddenly got a blue screen and rebooted.

These files were added to the report:

C:\DOCUME~1\anon\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3443.dir00\Mini0 51610-02.dmp
C:\DOCUME~1\anon\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3443.dir00\sysda ta.xml

Well afterward I tried again, and yes midst downloading the patch I ran into another blue screen about 30 minutes into patching.

So I ran CCleaner and removed all the temp files as well as Registrybooster to see if there were any errors. Afterward I uninstalled the entire game completely and reinstalled it.

It was going fine up until the updater got to 80% and then all of a sudden I hear another beep beep of rebooting. i check again it seemed to have had a blue screen with the same added files to the report.

I didn't have any trouble with the US version of the game, I have not yet tested if this also happened if I do something else and not run this game. I am a little worried right now, what can I do about it?

edit:

midst typing this message the updater blue screened again, I am glad firefox remembered by message D:

It loaded up to 80% since it had that amount already but was very slow and got like 1-2% further before zipping into blue screen again.

edit:

it hasn't been happened again after posting this message, I am not running the game either in fact I uninstalled it and redownloaded the US version which installed again without any trouble at all.
Was it because of the Allods eu program? Or because of my pc?

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Old 2010-05-16, 05:10   Link #2
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The game's probably unstable and crashed. Uninstall it and don't play again.

Otherwise, check with your friends and see if they have the same issue.....I had this problem with KOTOR too.
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Old 2010-05-16, 06:00   Link #3
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Stop your computer from auto-rebooting when you get a BSOD so you can jot down the error code. The error code will tell you where the problem is. When you do get the BSOD you'll have to do a hard reboot, but after you get the error code you can google it and see what the problem is.
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Old 2010-05-16, 06:50   Link #4
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The game's probably unstable and crashed. Uninstall it and don't play again.

Otherwise, check with your friends and see if they have the same issue.....I had this problem with KOTOR too.
I was thinking the same thing since the other server version is completely stable. My friends however had no troubles installing and patching the game which is weird. But I am going to stick with the US version regardless because the Eu seems very disorganized, I mean they don't even have a fully functioning tech support yet that to me says enough

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Stop your computer from auto-rebooting when you get a BSOD so you can jot down the error code. The error code will tell you where the problem is. When you do get the BSOD you'll have to do a hard reboot, but after you get the error code you can google it and see what the problem is.
How do you turn that off?
I am not in the habit of receiving blue screens only happened for a second time in like 4 years or so, I don't know how to turn off the auto reboot on a blue screen
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Old 2010-05-16, 07:19   Link #5
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To turn off the auto reboot, go to Control Panel->System->Advanced. There you should see under Startup and Recovery a tick box for auto restart on system failure. Turn it off, so when you cause the game to BSOD it won't restart and you can read the error message.

The code should go something like 0x000etc.
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Old 2010-05-16, 07:59   Link #6
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To turn off the auto reboot, go to Control Panel->System->Advanced. There you should see under Startup and Recovery a tick box for auto restart on system failure. Turn it off, so when you cause the game to BSOD it won't restart and you can read the error message.

The code should go something like 0x000etc.
Whether you turn it off or not, there will be an error log created after you turn your PC back on.

When it tells you send error report on the main windows screen, click on the "see details" to see the error code.

Otherwise, you can go to minidump folder somewhere in My computer > C:\ > Windows > system32. This one SHOULD have more details on what's going on exactly.

Either way, tell us the error code if you can.
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Old 2010-05-16, 09:31   Link #7
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The eventviewer still had it listed =)

Foutcode; 000000c2, parameter1: 00000007, parameter2: 00000cd4, parameter3: 02060003, parameter4: 87cbe740.

I also saw entries about 5 minutes prior to the crash from Tcpip: TCP/IP heeft de beveiligingslimiet bereikt van het aantal gelijktijdige verbindingspogingen via TCP.
meaning TCP/IP reached its security limit of the amount of simultaneous connection attempts via TCP

but this could also be due to the program because when I used it sometimes my connection to the internet would simply be cut, my msn would stop being connected etc. but it would reconnect a short moment later
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Old 2010-05-16, 10:48   Link #8
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I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but those error codes tell me it's probably a device driver problem. Since you mentioned TCP/IP try reinstalling your TCP/IP drivers.
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Old 2010-05-16, 12:05   Link #9
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The eventviewer still had it listed =)

Foutcode; 000000c2, parameter1: 00000007, parameter2: 00000cd4, parameter3: 02060003, parameter4: 87cbe740.

I also saw entries about 5 minutes prior to the crash from Tcpip: TCP/IP heeft de beveiligingslimiet bereikt van het aantal gelijktijdige verbindingspogingen via TCP.
meaning TCP/IP reached its security limit of the amount of simultaneous connection attempts via TCP

but this could also be due to the program because when I used it sometimes my connection to the internet would simply be cut, my msn would stop being connected etc. but it would reconnect a short moment later
Do you run on a limited bandwidth service?
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Old 2010-05-16, 14:37   Link #10
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Do you run on a limited bandwidth service?
No =) unlimited, share the connection through a splitter with my old man downstairs

question though regarding MeoTwister5, what is TCP/IP?
Never really heard about it, care to explain?
Is it like a device thing? If so how do I see what device it is so that I can identify it and find the proper drivers
Wiki is giving me huge swirly eyes on this one, is it my modem/router or IP?
I am not going to mess around with my router, I'd rather not play the EU version then specially since I am moving out in 3 months or so and am quite scared that I will mess settings up like I messed up port forwarding once

edit:

okay so I was looking through somethings concerning the max TCP connections being reached. I have a question about it.. perhaps even a theory:

Unchanged Windows XP has the maximum set to 10 connections per second.
My question is what would happen if constantly something tries to surpass that number, in this case the patch updater of Allods EU.
Could that cause a BSOD?

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Old 2010-05-17, 05:13   Link #11
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Simply put : Meotwister says that you should reinstall your LAN card drivers.

I'll do abit more analysis when I get back. Meanwhile, just let me finish my group project first.
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Old 2010-05-17, 05:21   Link #12
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No =) unlimited, share the connection through a splitter with my old man downstairs

question though regarding MeoTwister5, what is TCP/IP?
Never really heard about it, care to explain?
Is it like a device thing? If so how do I see what device it is so that I can identify it and find the proper drivers
Wiki is giving me huge swirly eyes on this one, is it my modem/router or IP?
I am not going to mess around with my router, I'd rather not play the EU version then specially since I am moving out in 3 months or so and am quite scared that I will mess settings up like I messed up port forwarding once

edit:

okay so I was looking through somethings concerning the max TCP connections being reached. I have a question about it.. perhaps even a theory:

Unchanged Windows XP has the maximum set to 10 connections per second.
My question is what would happen if constantly something tries to surpass that number, in this case the patch updater of Allods EU.
Could that cause a BSOD?
This sounds familiar. Did you ever use a program that claims to increase the open connections limit of TCP/IP? Some people claim that FTP and torrents run faster when you modify the core driver files to allow more incoming connections, which is similar to allowing more download sources into your computer. Bitcomet supposedly can do this.

As I said, reinstall your drivers. If you have have any P2Ps, download programs and torrents, try reinstalling them if they won't mess up your downloads.
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Old 2010-05-17, 10:26   Link #13
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This sounds familiar. Did you ever use a program that claims to increase the open connections limit of TCP/IP? Some people claim that FTP and torrents run faster when you modify the core driver files to allow more incoming connections, which is similar to allowing more download sources into your computer. Bitcomet supposedly can do this.

As I said, reinstall your drivers. If you have have any P2Ps, download programs and torrents, try reinstalling them if they won't mess up your downloads.
I thought that program is only for Windows SP2 users. The half-open TCP-IP bullshit those so-called Microsoft Security Officers used to recommend to slow infections.

FFS, some viruses are smaller than they think. And personal information is only a few bytes worth of size, so whether you have a half-open or full-open TCP-IP port, it makes no bloody difference.
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Old 2010-05-17, 11:08   Link #14
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I thought that program is only for Windows SP2 users. The half-open TCP-IP bullshit those so-called Microsoft Security Officers used to recommend to slow infections.

FFS, some viruses are smaller than they think. And personal information is only a few bytes worth of size, so whether you have a half-open or full-open TCP-IP port, it makes no bloody difference.
That's why you shouldn't mess with drivers in the first place.
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Old 2010-05-17, 11:49   Link #15
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That's why you shouldn't mess with drivers in the first place.
Actually if you don't for that, you will be running broadband at 56.6kbps.

Yup. That bad.
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Old 2010-05-17, 12:18   Link #16
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This sounds familiar. Did you ever use a program that claims to increase the open connections limit of TCP/IP? Some people claim that FTP and torrents run faster when you modify the core driver files to allow more incoming connections, which is similar to allowing more download sources into your computer. Bitcomet supposedly can do this.

As I said, reinstall your drivers. If you have have any P2Ps, download programs and torrents, try reinstalling them if they won't mess up your downloads.
Don't think I ever have.

How do I reinstall those drivers? I have no clue where to look to find them as I am not even sure how to identify them
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Old 2010-05-17, 14:15   Link #17
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Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager

Under the Network Adapters tab, expand it and list everything here.

P.S I just noticed on a single thread support forum, 3 of the recent threads on the first page are yours. Have you been downloading porn lately or what?
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Old 2010-05-17, 15:35   Link #18
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Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager

Under the Network Adapters tab, expand it and list everything here.

P.S I just noticed on a single thread support forum, 3 of the recent threads on the first page are yours. Have you been downloading porn lately or what?
uuhm no not at all XD
1 thread: was about some problem I had when I had an assignment from a customer, which was a 40 minute long video and I had no discspace to render it on and my external HD had magically switched back to Fat32 so it couldn't render on that one all of a sudden due to the limit, so I wondered probably again like last time when I did it if it were possible without data loss.. it wasn't disc was whining.. used another external and formatted it into NFTS

Another was regarding a lot of useless start ups I had from my software which I use for my work, 3D programs of such which had their servers running for no reason... Didn't know how to turn it off =P

I am just very curious and every once in a while run into trouble, this is the first place I go to XD

But all topics are not related to porn at all, I at least know how to keep my pc virus free. I've only had to re do my windows once and I've been using this pc for 3-4 years now =)


Anyway, I think the patcher is bugged to begin with. You could also manually patch by downloading and pasting them into the folder for patches and the launcher would then detect them. But it doesn't and continues to download patches even though they are already in. Removed the game, might just play the US version.. though don't feel liek bothering after 3 days of that program acting like a prototype mother in law

Anyway screenie:

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Old 2010-05-17, 16:25   Link #19
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You can do a clean install of the driver.

Get it here, uninstall the old one through add/remove programs, run CCleaner, restart computer, then reinstall.

Honestly speaking, I am more compelled to thinking that this is a software fault (meaning the game programmers screwed up) rather than hardware issue, so doing this is highly likely not able to solve your problem.
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Old 2010-05-18, 00:39   Link #20
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You can do a clean install of the driver.

Get it here, uninstall the old one through add/remove programs, run CCleaner, restart computer, then reinstall.

Honestly speaking, I am more compelled to thinking that this is a software fault (meaning the game programmers screwed up) rather than hardware issue, so doing this is highly likely not able to solve your problem.
was thinking the exact same thing
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