High School DxD Light Novel - DX.5 (Short Story Collection)

[XFire]

Yeah, I'm actually with Lucidrago here. Le Fay gaining an Evil Piece wouldnt really benefit anything she summons, aside from Bishop maybe giving her more power to do so?

[The Infinite Dream]

I dont see how evil pieces could even effect summons. Either they have a contract to summon the being or they dont. The being they summon doesnt get the benefits of the evil pieces. Honestly depending on how strong her magic already is giving her a rook piece to increase her defense would be the best imo to balance her out. Most magic users tend to lack defense.

[bluestahli1]

She should start sucking Ise's fingers for a month or two and let's see if she gains anything.

[Draigathar]

speaking of Ise's dragon Ki i'm surprised Rias hasn't made a move or used it's power like something Akeno has.

As for Le fay if she joins and becomes a devil i think she'll end up as a few pawn pieces. That's if she decides to become a devil there's no one reason she can't stay human (though it seems she's part of the heavenly 12).

[Palmito]

Originally Posted by TommyG

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I am the only one who thinks Ruval was kind of dumb here?

A CIA agent wants to enter in the tournament to gather information about some of the most powerful supernatural creatures that exist in the world, so them the USA can create a system of defense against supernatural beings, and he acts as if that were nothing. What??? Its the USA that we are talking about my guy. Do you really think that after the defense system they will not try to create weapons to fight against supernatural beings? Do you really think they're not going to try to attack some of the supernatural factions to get their resources? You are basically letting a future enemy gather information about most of your current fighting force.

[The Infinite Dream]

Not really thats your own personal bias. The British Government even has their hands on a longinous do you really believe they wont do the same thing? The US isnt even the first humans to create weapons that harm supernatural beings in DxD. It is basically nothing to him. His peerage could probably destroy the whole us like its nothing if he really wanted to.

[Palmito]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

Not really thats your own personal bias. The British Government even has their hands on a longinous do you really believe they wont do the same thing? The US isnt even the first humans to create weapons that harm supernatural beings in DxD. It is basically nothing to him. His peerage could probably destroy the whole us like its nothing if he really wanted to.

1- Before your salty ass comes to create problems I want to make it clear that I only specified the USA because they are the country in question.

2- If we compare the level of the weapons that the US government can make against the weapons that humans have made so far... yeah.

3- Are you saying that Ruval's peerage could destroy the entire US? You mean in this moment in the story, right? And after a few years when the defense system and anti-supernatural beings weapons are ready? Can you still guarantee that the Ruval's peerage could easily destroy the US? Is it really worth the risk?

[The Infinite Dream]

When was i salty? I said thats your personal bias because it is. You automatically went to usa=enemy. This is a fictional story real world politics arent going to play much of a roll in it. If you cant figure out what I mean by them being able to wipe out the us if they cared to thats all on you. Stop getting defensive when you asked if you're the only one who thinks Ruval was dumb.

[XFire]

Just going to point out that given the limited success even the Grigori, a research lab with limitless funding run by immortal fallen angels with direct access to the works of God himself, have had at creating practical weapons on the scale to actually be useful in high-level combat, the idea that any human country, even the US, could successfully create a "defense system" that could hold back an Ultimate-class devil peerage, much less the Alliance, seems mildly far-fetched.

[Palmito]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

When was i salty? I said thats your personal bias because it is. You automatically went to usa=enemy. This is a fictional story real world politics arent going to play much of a roll in it. If you cant figure out what I mean by them being able to wipe out the us if they cared to thats all on you. Stop getting defensive when you asked if you're the only one who thinks Ruval was dumb.

To me you seemed salty because I specified the US, and i went USA = Enemy because this is a very likely possibility if you use your brain. If they are desperately trying to create methods to defend themselves them why they would not create methods to attack?

" If you cant figure out what I mean by them being able to wipe out the us if they cared to thats all on you."

So explain?

[The Infinite Dream]

Explain what if theyre that scared of them creating anything they could go wipe them out its as simple as that.

Not to mention the devils and other supernatural beings probably have their own agents in the inner workings of the human world. So any supernatural being weapon they could create they'll know about it before its even done.

Again that's your personal bias that the US is an enemy in a fictional story about supernatural beings. You're bringing real world politics into fiction.

If you wanna argue more just glance at Xfires statement its pretty solid imo.

[Palmito]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

Explain what if theyre that scared of them creating anything they could go wipe them out its as simple as that.

Not to mention the devils and other supernatural beings probably have their own agents in the inner workings of the human world. So any supernatural being weapon they could create they'll know about it before its even done.

Again that's your personal bias that the US is an enemy in a fictional story about supernatural beings. You're bringing real world politics into fiction.

Are you saying that they could simply annihilate a country in the human world, instead of preventing them from building up their weapons by not giving information to the enemy? Yeah, why not.

You're assuming they have people infiltrated. It is possible, but it is not a certainty.

I'm not bringing anything friend. It's just obvious. If they intend to create weapons to defend themselves obviously they will try to create weapons to attack too. This is just obvious.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by XFire

Just going to point out that given the limited success even the Grigori, a research lab with limitless funding run by immortal fallen angels with direct access to the works of God himself, have had at creating practical weapons on the scale to actually be useful in high-level combat, the idea that any human country, even the US, could successfully create a "defense system" that could hold back an Ultimate-class devil peerage, much less the Alliance, seems mildly far-fetched.

Human countries have created nuclear weapons that can destroy the world. Is it really all that far-fetched that they can create defense system against supernatural beings with current technology?

@Palmito That's assuming the U.S. is an enemy of the Underworld and that they can make a move against a supernatural faction so recklessly. From what Magnus said, it seems like there are certain figures in the U.S. that know about the supernatural world. That's not strange as we have had humans who have knowledge or connections with the supernatural world. The higher-ups in most countries most likely know about the supernatural beings but keep quiet about it to the general populace. But even though they have knowledge of the supernatural world, they let the supernatural world do as it pleases as long as it doesn't heavily affect the human world.

But since Trihexa, all of the major powers of the human world have been put on alert and while they aren't hostile to the supernatural world they are still preparing themselves to defend against it. Because what happens when a supernatural event occurs that affects the human world as much as it does the supernatural world? They can't just turn a blind eye to it anymore and need to be prepared just in case.

[XFire]

Okay, let's skip about a hundred steps, toss out the idea of basic human decency and common sense interfering, and make the massive assumption that the US will be able to make weapons able to equal or surpass the Longinus and Transcendants.

You are then making the additional leap in logic that they will then choose to engage the Alliance for no reason beyond paranoia that they themselves may be attacked. Engage an enemy that has multiple members capable of cracking the planet in half. Because they don't want to be attacked by said enemy. They'd have to be completely braindead.

The very fact that the real world, which is far more cynical and brutal than DxD's version of it, has not vanished into a nuclear hellstorm should rather soundly refute your hypothesis.

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Human countries have created nuclear weapons that can destroy the world. Is it really all that far-fetched that they can create defense system against supernatural beings with current technology?.

Yes.

Issei was able to output more energy than the worlds largest nuclear bomb by an order of magnitude...in volume 2. IN BASE. Sacred Gears and various other powers can break the laws of physics over their knees with zero repercussions. Teleportation, erasure of matter, infinite energy, mind control, creation of infinite soldiers, etc. The US would be starting from scratch and trying to equal the works of actual gods.

Humanity can't do shit. Issei by himself in BxB could destroy our modern world in a matter of hours.

[Lucidrago]

Again if DxD is like our world, then humans created nuclear weapons which are capable of destroying the world like Longinus.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Again if DxD is like our world, then humans created nuclear weapons which are capable of destroying the world like Longinus.

No. Nuclear weapons can destroy the world....if we fire thousands and thousands of them all at once and they all successfully detonate over a great enough area.

A Longinus can destroy the world by punching the ground hard enough.

Again, Issei vaporizing that mountain in volume 2 required literally an order of magnitude more energy than the Tsar Bomba produced.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by XFire

Okay, let's skip about a hundred steps, toss out the idea of basic human decency and common sense interfering, and make the massive assumption that the US will be able to make weapons able to equal or surpass the Longinus and Transcendants.

You are then making the additional leap in logic that they will then choose to engage the Alliance for no reason beyond paranoia that they themselves may be attacked. Engage an enemy that has multiple members capable of cracking the planet in half. Because they don't want to be attacked by said enemy. They'd have to be completely braindead.

The very fact that the real world, which is far more cynical and brutal than DxD's version of it, has not vanished into a nuclear hellstorm should rather soundly refute your hypothesis.



Yes.

Issei was able to output more energy than the worlds largest nuclear bomb by an order of magnitude...in volume 2. IN BASE. Sacred Gears and various other powers can break the laws of physics over their knees with zero repercussions. Teleportation, erasure of matter, infinite energy, mind control, creation of infinite soldiers, etc. The US would be starting from scratch and trying to equal the works of actual gods.

Humanity can't do shit. Issei by himself in BxB could destroy our modern world in a matter of hours.

But could Issei destroy a city and kill everyone in there with that single shot from Volume 2 if you're saying that he had more energy output than a nuclear bomb back in Volume 2?

And didn't Issei only blow like a part off the Top of the mountain in Volume 2? You're saying human weapons can't do that?

[CCPDarkraiRules]

Spoiler for Correction and addition spoilers:

The current wielder of Alphecca Tyrant is a member of the British Royal Family which is why Heaven and Grigori cant find it, since the Royal Family have been preventing any information about it from being released. Arthur's father described the wielder as very annoying.

Arthur's father approves of his relationship with Elaine, but he can only marry her if he can deal with the problem with Alphecca Tyrant.

Also only Salamander Tomita joined the Vali Team, no Ninja Master.

Arthur/Le Fay's father is interested in Issei because he's the Welsh Dragon which can give him an edge with Wales and is thinking if he can marry Le Fay.

The Goristie's sister is living in the Phenex territory as Riser's "candidate" for his new bishop. She's not his bishop yet. She's described as a 16 year old blue haired girl.

Done by Riku on Discord.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by CCPDarkraiRules

Spoiler for Correction and addition spoilers:

The current wielder of Alphecca Tyrant is a member of the British Royal Family which is why Heaven and Grigori cant find it, since the Royal Family have been preventing any information about it from being released. Arthur's father described the wielder as very annoying.

Arthur's father approves of his relationship with Elaine, but he can only marry her if he can deal with the problem with Alphecca Tyrant.

Also only Salamander Tomita joined the Vali Team, no Ninja Master.

Arthur/Le Fay's father is interested in Issei because he's the Welsh Dragon which can give him an edge with Wales and is thinking if he can marry Le Fay.

The Goristie's sister is living in the Phenex territory as Riser's "candidate" for his new bishop. She's not his bishop yet. She's described as a 16 year old blue haired girl.

Done by Riku on Discord.

That's just wrong Ishibumi. Possibly giving Riser a beautiful Yuki-Onna.

So Arthur just has to deal with the possessor of Alphecca Tyrant to marry Elaine.

Good to see that the England-Wales rivalry is still going strong.

Do you have any info about the Superhero Trial short story though?

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

But could Issei destroy a city and kill everyone in there with that single shot from Volume 2 if you're saying that he had more energy output than a nuclear bomb back in Volume 2?

And didn't Issei only blow like a part off the Top of the mountain in Volume 2? You're saying human weapons can't do that?

Yes, he could.

Issei vaporized a mountain. As in it ceased to exist. A nuclear bomb might be able to collapse the top of an average mountain by detonating on the surface, or shatter part of it by detonating inside. But vaporizing something requires exponentially more energy than either of those. No human weapon possesses a tenth of that firepower.