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Mr Hat and Clogs · 2014-09-16, 23:03

Yeah Loki 1 was awesome, I really hope we see more of him than Loki 2's Saturday Morning Villain. But I strongly suspect that won't be the case, Hollywood struggles at writing good villains.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2014-09-17, 03:40

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Well his rule should be alright long as he doesn't go back to Avengers Loki who seemed to have "look at me" syndrome

. People might start getting suspicious if he builds the Loki tower somewhere

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Thor 1 Loki was an interesting character. You could dislike him at times, but also sympathize with him. I honestly can see his rule either going relatively well if he keeps his head on straight or horribly wrong if he gets way too carried away and drunk on the power of the position he currently has.

I am not sure Loki is the type to get drunk on power. Sure, he was all "I am a GOD, mortals!" in Avengers. But really, he is just saying what many in Asgard thinks about Earth. A superiority complex is hardly unusual when you live thousands of years longer and can overpower Steve Rogers by pure brute force alone. Loki has many negative qualities, but being stupid isn't one of them.

Shinji103 · 2014-09-17, 18:39

It wasn't just a superiority complex against humans. Loki is hungry for power; the movies made it clear, through direct statements even, that he thinks he deserves to be king. Earth was just a convenient throne, part of his deal with Thanos simply because the Tesseract was there. If it was on another planet, Loki would have tried to be king of that planet instead. Before that he tried to take over the Asgard throne, and his whole complex against Thor is because he thinks he deservs to be king more than Thor. It's not about earth specifically, it's about being king period.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2014-09-17, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Shinji103

It wasn't just a superiority complex against humans. Loki is hungry for power; the movies made it clear, through direct statements even, that he thinks he deserves to be king. Earth was just a convenient throne, part of his deal with Thanos simply because the Tesseract was there. If it was on another planet, Loki would have tried to be king of that planet instead. Before that he tried to take over the Asgard throne, and his whole complex against Thor is because he thinks he deservs to be king more than Thor. It's not about earth specifically, it's about being king period.

That is true, but now that he IS king, the question is if he could walk the walk. Loki got what he wished for, the question is if he is up to the task. I am prepared to give him a chance, to see what he would do when Thanos come knocking. I am sure Loki would like to KEEP his throne, but how hard would he fight to stay there?

GDB · 2014-09-17, 20:03

Well, logically he knows how strong Thanos and his army are. So the only question is whether he'd risk the Asgardian people to protect the universe from the Infinity Gauntlet's power.

FlareKnight · 2014-09-17, 22:44

I wonder if Loki will just simply give up the Tesseract in order to keep Thanos away from Asgard. I'd expect Loki would rather keep his throne and not have to go through all the trouble of perhaps losing it in a struggle with Thanos. Can always just act surprised at how Thanos managed to 'steal' it.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2014-09-18, 02:23

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I wonder if Loki will just simply give up the Tesseract in order to keep Thanos away from Asgard. I'd expect Loki would rather keep his throne and not have to go through all the trouble of perhaps losing it in a struggle with Thanos. Can always just act surprised at how Thanos managed to 'steal' it.

Avengers Loki would probably do that and be done with it. But Thor 1 Loki would also somehow secretly aid others in eventually defeating Thanos. Thor 1 Loki wouldn't simply allow himself to be extorted without organising his revenge.

FlareKnight · 2014-09-18, 09:34

Moving back to characters actually in the Guardians of the Galaxy (

), I'm curious if Groot will be back to 100% by the time that sequel gets going or if it will be the kind of thing that comes together later in the film.

Also seems like the kind of universe where they really can go in any given direction. The only real guarantees is adding a few members to the group in the course of the second movie. But not really the part of the Marvel universe that I know that much about so should get some nice surprises with who they pick up.

GDB · 2014-09-18, 09:46

Hey now, Thanos is in Guardians!

And yeah, I'm sure Groot will be fine by then. The movies generally seem to follow real-time, and we're a few years off of another Guardians movie still.

Frontier · 2014-09-18, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Avengers Loki would probably do that and be done with it. But Thor 1 Loki would also somehow secretly aid others in eventually defeating Thanos. Thor 1 Loki wouldn't simply allow himself to be extorted without organising his revenge.

I think the main difference between Thor 1 Loki and Avengers Loki is that Thor 1 Loki hadn't met Thanos yet

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I wonder if Loki will just simply give up the Tesseract in order to keep Thanos away from Asgard. I'd expect Loki would rather keep his throne and not have to go through all the trouble of perhaps losing it in a struggle with Thanos. Can always just act surprised at how Thanos managed to 'steal' it.

The Tesseract has been confirmed to be the Space Stone, and if Thanos can get it and the Gauntlet, as well as either the Reality or Time Stone, then I think that could be used as a cheat of sorts for Thanos getting the rest of the stones by Avengers 3 with very little effort

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SuitUp · 2014-09-18, 18:07

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I think the main difference between Thor 1 Loki and Avengers Loki is that Thor 1 Loki hadn't met Thanos yet

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The Tesseract has been confirmed to be the Space Stone, and if Thanos can get it and the Gauntlet, as well as either the Reality or Time Stone, then I think that could be used as a cheat of sorts for Thanos getting the rest of the stones by Avengers 3 with very little effort

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Wasn't the Tesseract a cosmic cube? When was this said? :c

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Also, will the cosmics appear in the new MCU installments, so far we have seen a celestial and a celestial head, when the IG comes into play, will Eternity and others also enter the board in the MCU?

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2014-09-18, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Frontier

I think the main difference between Thor 1 Loki and Avengers Loki is that Thor 1 Loki hadn't met Thanos yet

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The Tesseract has been confirmed to be the Space Stone, and if Thanos can get it and the Gauntlet, as well as either the Reality or Time Stone, then I think that could be used as a cheat of sorts for Thanos getting the rest of the stones by Avengers 3 with very little effort

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Well the thing is, the Power stone which was in GotG, is needed to give the other stones their maximum potential. So assuming the Nova Corps would not be the first to fall, Thanos wouldn't start playing god until after he did his business there. Until then he would have issues taming the stones he got, if only because the infinity stones of the filmverse are so much more dangerous to the user than in the comics.

Frontier · 2014-09-18, 18:21

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Wasn't the Tesseract a cosmic cube? When was this said? :c

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Also, will the cosmics appear in the new MCU installments, so far we have seen a celestial and a celestial head, when the IG comes into play, will Eternity and others also enter the board in the MCU?

Here's the interview.

I think it was originally meant to be the Cosmic Cube but got changed to an Infinity Stone to fit into the Thanos/Infinity Gauntlet storyline.

GDB · 2014-09-18, 18:32

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I think it was originally meant to be the Cosmic Cube but got changed to an Infinity Stone to fit into the Thanos/Infinity Gauntlet storyline.

That's my take on it. They may have considered it a possibility early on, which is why they changed the name of it to begin with.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2014-09-18, 19:12

I thought they were one and the same thing?

Frontier · 2014-09-18, 19:49

Well, yeah, that's probably true too. Though it's Cosmic Cube look is probably more of a container of sorts for the Stone, so once that's gone it's not really a Cosmic Cube anymore

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Mr Hat and Clogs · 2014-09-18, 23:42

Yeah, could be a container, like with the Power stone in GotG. Hell I think Banner alluded such in the Avengers when describing how to breach it to get to the yummy power within.

MrTerrorist · 2014-11-18, 06:06

LOL

I kinda wish this happened in the movie.

Spoiler for Outtake:

FlareKnight · 2014-11-19, 09:28

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LOL

I kinda wish this happened in the movie.

Spoiler for Outtake:

I would not have complained if they did that

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2014-09-16, 23:03	Link #141
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Yeah Loki 1 was awesome, I really hope we see more of him than Loki 2's Saturday Morning Villain. But I strongly suspect that won't be the case, Hollywood struggles at writing good villains. __________________ Last edited by Mr Hat and Clogs; 2014-09-16 at 23:17.

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Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	It wasn't just a superiority complex against humans. Loki is hungry for power; the movies made it clear, through direct statements even, that he thinks he deserves to be king. Earth was just a convenient throne, part of his deal with Thanos simply because the Tesseract was there. If it was on another planet, Loki would have tried to be king of that planet instead. Before that he tried to take over the Asgard throne, and his whole complex against Thor is because he thinks he deservs to be king more than Thor. It's not about earth specifically, it's about being king period. __________________

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	I wonder if Loki will just simply give up the Tesseract in order to keep Thanos away from Asgard. I'd expect Loki would rather keep his throne and not have to go through all the trouble of perhaps losing it in a struggle with Thanos. Can always just act surprised at how Thanos managed to 'steal' it. __________________ Anime-Evo

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Moving back to characters actually in the Guardians of the Galaxy (), I'm curious if Groot will be back to 100% by the time that sequel gets going or if it will be the kind of thing that comes together later in the film. Also seems like the kind of universe where they really can go in any given direction. The only real guarantees is adding a few members to the group in the course of the second movie. But not really the part of the Marvel universe that I know that much about so should get some nice surprises with who they pick up. __________________ Anime-Evo

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Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	I thought they were one and the same thing? __________________

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Well, logically he knows how strong Thanos and his army are. So the only question is whether he'd risk the Asgardian people to protect the universe from the Infinity Gauntlet's power.

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Hey now, Thanos is in Guardians! And yeah, I'm sure Groot will be fine by then. The movies generally seem to follow real-time, and we're a few years off of another Guardians movie still.

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	Well, yeah, that's probably true too. Though it's Cosmic Cube look is probably more of a container of sorts for the Stone, so once that's gone it's not really a Cosmic Cube anymore . __________________

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Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Yeah, could be a container, like with the Power stone in GotG. Hell I think Banner alluded such in the Avengers when describing how to breach it to get to the yummy power within. __________________

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MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	LOL I kinda wish this happened in the movie. Spoiler for Outtake: YouTube https://youtu.be/t0qcPekvlAU Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________