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LevelSeven · 2014-09-30, 13:32

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Originally Posted by dazo

.....but in my case i usually dream about fights to death...

my dream only consist of me, how i run away from dogs

or nothing where i close my eyes and wake uo without a single dream

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and i am ,usually, getting killed

... but you can gain "experience"

make it a few billion times and you will win for sure since you can "learn there fighting-style"

dazo · 2014-09-30, 13:48

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Originally Posted by LevelSeven

my dream only consist of me, how i run away from dogs

or nothing where i close my eyes and wake uo without a single dream

it not like you dont remember your dreams..is just the you start to forget as soon you awake...you need a diary if you want to know your dream style

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make it a few billion times and you will win for sure since you can "learn there fighting-style"

the only thing you gain is a pressure in the chest as you awake(and a bad humor)...and the fact that you start paid attention to other action

the fight style is just a nonsense used in literature

dniv · 2014-09-30, 13:53

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Originally Posted by Hiss13

Hmmm...
Point taken.

Anyways...nobody saying anything about the fact that Misaki has been confirmed to be a 2nd Year?

OMG. We didn't notice it. THAT's AMAZING!!! You're the best Hiss.

Also, wow, this is great.

Also, the fighting style stuff isn't nonsense. It has a point. No matter how strong you may be, you are limited in doing what tactics or moves you can come up with in the moment. That's one of the most valid points I've ever seen used. Fighting style is different from what you can think of. Kamachi said nothing about fighting style, just about data points for scenarios about battle tactics.

dazo · 2014-09-30, 14:07

bro....we are talking about what you gain in a nightmare..in real life...if you dream that someone shoot you in the eye., or that a car run over you...you don't learn a thing (maybe a tachycardia

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you are limited in doing what tactics or moves you can come up with in the moment.

in a dream without "lucid dream" is impossible..and in a lucid dream you are "awake" but you are not free to do as you want.

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Kamachi said nothing about fighting style, just about data points for scenarios about battle tactics.

this is for nt9 plot right? well phases and literature are different

dniv · 2014-09-30, 14:19

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Originally Posted by dazo

bro....we are talking about what you gain in a nightmare..in real life...if you dream that someone shoot you in the eye., or that a car run over you...you don't learn a thing (maybe a tachycardia

)

in a dream without "lucid dream" is impossible..and in a lucid dream you are "awake" but you are not free to do as you want.

this is for nt9 plot right? well phases and literature are different

I thought Level_Seven was calling the NT 9 stuff BS so I got pissed. I didn't read the context about just dreaming.

Also, what do you mean phases vs. literature?

What type of literature? Scientific literature? Writing?

If you're talking about the dream thing: lucid dreaming can indeed be used to study things, train mental connections, plan out battle or other strategies, think about concepts, sketch out interactions between people and etc. It's a field that is currently getting a lot of interesting.

Furthermore, what happens in your dreams can prime how you react to certain events or situations IRL when you are awake. The implication of this idea is that if someone sent other people dreams that would make them put themselves into dangerous situations if they woke up, then it would be practically untraceable, if the people supplying the dreams were rather anonymous or if there were no way of figuring out what dream they had dreamed the night before or etc.

Miraluka · 2014-09-30, 18:24

Indian Poker ---> Brain waves---> Sisters again.

GDB · 2014-09-30, 18:36

It'd be great if Mikoto thought of that as well and instantly goes to them to talk about it, only to find out they're not involved in any way.

silverexorcist · 2014-09-30, 20:50

Indian Poker---->Brain Waves---->Sisters again---->Telepathy--->Shokuhou---->Finally given a freaking explanation as to how her power works.

It's high time we found out. And I don't even mean hers specifically--we still don't know the details on how telepathy functions in this series. We just know that it's heavily electric based and that Misaka is apparently immune to it. I get the feeling that the Misaka Network was made using Shokuhou's ability as a basis, which is why she was being tested in the same facility as Dolly.

That or it's just a place to study the powers of cute little girls. That's a valid possibility.

GDB · 2014-09-30, 21:04

Telepathy is likely based on those AMP waves or whatever they're called that all espers emit that allow Kanzaki to switch between the two worlds.

It doesn't have to be electric based. I always figured Mikoto is immune because the brain functions based on electrical impulses and the like, so she can prevent herself from being taken over. If she were 100% immune to telepathy, then she'd have no reason to question whether Misaki were really a middle schooler.

silverexorcist · 2014-09-30, 22:04

After the last arc showed how Mental Out could affect the Misaka Network so strongly, it's hard to believe that telepathy isn't related to electric signals. And if you're referring to AIM, then that would imply that anyone who doesn't emit AIM would be unaffected by Mental Out, which we know isn't the case. Besides, Shokuhou could mess with the information to classify herself as a middle schooler without manipulating Misaka--she'd have to anyways, since she wouldn't be able to use her power on EVERYONE to trick them all.

I'm just saying that, based on the one chapter we've seen, I seen the possibility of learning more about telepathy. No doubt, Shokuhou's still going to be a main character in this arc, since she's pretty much secured her position as Misaka's archenemy and rival. Plus, I still feel like the whole Dolly incident hasn't been completely resolved.

Death Usagi · 2014-10-01, 08:23

You know, after reading the chapter...

After seeing Mikoto being so happy with the Gekota...

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LevelSeven · 2014-10-01, 08:39

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Originally Posted by dniv

I thought Level_Seven was calling the NT 9 stuff BS so I got pissed.

to be fair, im not really ok with the explanation of the fighting pattern but there is bigger stuff so that i can safely ignore this

(like a normal human surviving the torture)

btw, why are you bothering yourself with Level_Seven?

Fellen · 2014-10-01, 08:39

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Originally Posted by Death Usagi

You know, after reading the chapter...

After seeing Mikoto being so happy with the Gekota...

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Well she IS a middle-schooler.

GDB · 2014-10-01, 09:04

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Originally Posted by silverexorcist

After the last arc showed how Mental Out could affect the Misaka Network so strongly, it's hard to believe that telepathy isn't related to electric signals. And if you're referring to AIM, then that would imply that anyone who doesn't emit AIM would be unaffected by Mental Out, which we know isn't the case.

Yeah, AIM. And just because someone doesn't emit them (ie: not an esper) doesn't mean they would be unaffected. There are AIM waves all over the place, hence why Kanzaki can exist. I'm submitting that telepathy uses those AIM waves to do the do, as it were, rather than outright changing the AIM waves.

If telepathy as a whole is nothing but electricity used in another way, then there's no reason that Mikoto couldn't be a telepath as well. The Sister network isn't really telepathy, but more like Wi-Fi or the like. They use electric signals to communicate, but it isn't true telepathy.

Death Usagi · 2014-10-01, 09:56

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Originally Posted by Fellen

Well she IS a middle-schooler.

I mean she is more like an elementary schooler in a sense

Fellen · 2014-10-01, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Death Usagi

I mean she is more like an elementary schooler in a sense

There's seems to be a disconnect between the mental and physical ages of ALL the level fives. Accel has seen some shit and acts more mature than most people his age and then there's Mikoto and Gunha...

Death Usagi · 2014-10-01, 10:22

What about Misaki?

Kind of immature for her age(?) in a way? XP

Fellen · 2014-10-01, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Death Usagi

What about Misaki?

Kind of immature for her age(?) in a way? XP

Yeah Misaki acts a bit immature and childish. (And when we take into account she might be older than belived it's even more so.) Don't know the ages of Kakine and Mugino but Mugino's really immature sometimes with not wanting to lose to Kakine and Mikoto for no good reason.

Miraluka · 2014-10-01, 10:36

Quite the opposite, She is like a young adult hidden behind a ojou facade.

Fellen · 2014-10-01, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Miraluka

Quite the opposite, She is like a young adult hidden behind a ojou facade.

Misaki or Mugino?

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2014-09-30, 20:50	Link #128
silverexorcist Tropes/cliché expert Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: The one place you didn't think of.	Indian Poker---->Brain Waves---->Sisters again---->Telepathy--->Shokuhou---->Finally given a freaking explanation as to how her power works. It's high time we found out. And I don't even mean hers specifically--we still don't know the details on how telepathy functions in this series. We just know that it's heavily electric based and that Misaka is apparently immune to it. I get the feeling that the Misaka Network was made using Shokuhou's ability as a basis, which is why she was being tested in the same facility as Dolly. That or it's just a place to study the powers of cute little girls. That's a valid possibility. __________________

2014-09-30, 22:04	Link #130
silverexorcist Tropes/cliché expert Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: The one place you didn't think of.	After the last arc showed how Mental Out could affect the Misaka Network so strongly, it's hard to believe that telepathy isn't related to electric signals. And if you're referring to AIM, then that would imply that anyone who doesn't emit AIM would be unaffected by Mental Out, which we know isn't the case. Besides, Shokuhou could mess with the information to classify herself as a middle schooler without manipulating Misaka--she'd have to anyways, since she wouldn't be able to use her power on EVERYONE to trick them all. I'm just saying that, based on the one chapter we've seen, I seen the possibility of learning more about telepathy. No doubt, Shokuhou's still going to be a main character in this arc, since she's pretty much secured her position as Misaka's archenemy and rival. Plus, I still feel like the whole Dolly incident hasn't been completely resolved. __________________

2014-09-30, 18:24	Link #126
Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	Indian Poker ---> Brain waves---> Sisters again.

2014-09-30, 18:36	Link #127
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	It'd be great if Mikoto thought of that as well and instantly goes to them to talk about it, only to find out they're not involved in any way.

2014-09-30, 21:04	Link #129
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Telepathy is likely based on those AMP waves or whatever they're called that all espers emit that allow Kanzaki to switch between the two worlds. It doesn't have to be electric based. I always figured Mikoto is immune because the brain functions based on electrical impulses and the like, so she can prevent herself from being taken over. If she were 100% immune to telepathy, then she'd have no reason to question whether Misaki were really a middle schooler.

2014-10-01, 08:23	Link #131
Death Usagi Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Age: 28	You know, after reading the chapter... After seeing Mikoto being so happy with the Gekota... Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? A CHILD! THERE IS A CHILD HERE!

2014-10-01, 10:22	Link #137
Death Usagi Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Age: 28	What about Misaki? Kind of immature for her age(?) in a way? XP

2014-10-01, 10:36	Link #139
Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	Quite the opposite, She is like a young adult hidden behind a ojou facade.