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2014-12-21, 21:32 | Link #105 | |
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Reincarnated Devil -> High-class = ~a Devil with power. Real Devil -> High-class = Hit or miss.
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2014-12-22, 00:30 | Link #106 |
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But i's assumed that all kings are the most powerful in their group right? Ofcourse non-withstanding Issei in Rias' group. Boosted Gear is a cheat and all. For every other peerage it has always been the King who is the strongest individually despite having no boosts from the EP system?
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2014-12-22, 00:49 | Link #107 |
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Not necessarily. Remember, there are rogue devils in the story, some of which that have killed their masters (i.e. the King). Kuroka is the perfect example of this. Is a wanted criminal in the Underworld not because she's a Nekomata or something lame like that, but rather, she killed her former master for a specific reason. |
2014-12-22, 10:36 | Link #109 | |
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2014-12-22, 12:01 | Link #110 |
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The king only has more authority over his/her servants (EPs), and that does not necessarily mean that the king will be stronger.
Just because someone else is stronger than their king does not make them able to disobey their king's orders, those who disobey their master could end up being a stray devil and they will be hunted for the rest of their life. |
2014-12-22, 12:40 | Link #111 |
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If there ever were peerage free-for-all rating games (rating games turned inward) with each individual against all others, even from the same peerage, that would reveal many things about one's comrades potential, and how well each person in a peerage can hold out on their own.
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2014-12-24, 23:42 | Link #114 |
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Merry Christmas, i love you all
btw, lately i've thinking about Leonardo from hero faction ancestor, is he a descendant from Leonardo Da Vinci?. his longinus also require strong imagination to create a strong monster (great imagination to make a great art) and also how could Ise use his Bilingual and dress break to Jeanne after he revived (the Evil Pieces hasn't buried in him). that technique need demonic power, but at that time Ise was a humanoid dragon
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2014-12-25, 01:12 | Link #115 | |
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2. Leonardo Da Vinci was no hero by typical standards, but anything is possible. 3. Ise probably used his dragon/sacred gear powers to substitute for his devil powers. Probably looked all the same to him as he's been using all of them almost since the start of his reincarnated life. 4. what anime is that scene from in your avatar, pansusis?
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2014-12-25, 01:26 | Link #116 |
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yeah GgrDraxin, thanks for the answer
2. yeah. i also guess it was coincidence, and you're right. Leonardo Da Vinci was amazing but he can't be called as a "hero" 3. that was the most possible, i hope this isn't ishibumi mistake when write the novel 4. my avatar? it's from Golden Boy ep.6
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2014-12-26, 11:54 | Link #117 | |
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Referring to the lack of demonic power pre-EPs in volume 12;
That was actually discussed on the wikia a while back. He had also used Dragon Shot on the Jabberwocky earlier as well. One explanation for this comes from a quote from volume 5, when Ise first attained his complete Balance Breaker; Quote:
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2014-12-26, 12:05 | Link #118 |
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I cant disagree with that. Think of Sacred Gears kinda like Zanpakto's. When they're activated they're in shikai and in Balance breaker they're bankai. They store the power of its owner and BB is a stronger version of the power. Dragon Shot is not a power from the EP its a power from the SG. I think issei's base power is dragon based because of the SG the evil pieces just give him a better way to control it.
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For all we know, Issei may have been a devil even post-mortem (his second). I don't recall it being said that the pawn pieces are what give him his demonic powers. Just that they were used to reincarnate him into a devil and that they give him further boosts (or rather...the ability to get other boosts from changing into other "pieces").
The reincarnation may have embedded demonic power into his soul which he never lost. What I recall is that unlike magic, demonic power uses the imagination. Since the consciense appears to be connected to the soul (Issei regained consciousness and ability to think as an armor-possessing soul), it may very well be that.
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