Mahouka - Episode 26 (END) Discussion / Poll

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Hey, why the need for help when you have Tatsuya.

Yeah, absolutely! Of course, he's in hot water with Maya Yotsuba as she doens't like his nephew stomping everyone without her consent.

@noobita

Regarding that, I believe that they invaded Japan for military secrets, most notably the Magatama relic that holds magic sequences or something. Then again, its fate was unknown where the last location was held in Four Leaves Technology.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by My Zodiac Aries

in yokohama, the first bomb he use 50 gram of water. ( radius about 200 metres )

50 milligrams of water. The distinction is very important. No drop of water would be 50 grams, and 50 grams would have made a MUCH larger explosion.

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Valky

On the serious note, it didn't explained by the scriptwriter, which is the reason why I don't like this adaptation.
Note that GAA is behind in magic tech so they want to steal data about magic & magicians of Japan from the Magic Association, they also want to kidnap valuable magicians so they could be used as tools in negotiation for releasing the prisoners of GAA.

So, another case of braindead enemies. Launching an all-out war for technology and kidnapping? Seriously?

[Valky]

Originally Posted by SigUp

So, another case of braindead enemies. Launching an all-out war for technology and kidnapping? Seriously?

Why is it that strange?

Japan has few magicians but Japan is one of the foremost country in terms of magic technology. GAA are fall behind in terms of magic technology but they have a lot of human resources.

In Mahouka-verse, countries tried to raise strong magicians since there is an international law to ban the use of nuke. If they can steal the technologies and adopt it to their military, GAA might be the strongest.

Plus, they are already at war since few years ago.

[Marcus H.]

Why can't they just do it like the North Koreans did?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Valky

Why is it that strange?

Japan has few magicians but Japan is one of the foremost country in terms of magic technology. GAA are fall behind in terms of magic technology but they have a lot of human resources.

In Mahouka-verse, countries tried to raise strong magicians since there is an international law to ban the use of nuke. If they can steal the technologies and adopt it to their military, GAA might be the strongest.

Plus, they are already at war since few years ago.

Let me get this straight; they are already behind technology-wise and have lost a local battle a couple of years ago, badly. Still, they think it's wise to prepare an invasion army in order to only acquire technology? The latter can be tried by, like, espionage, bribing, cooperation with other countries etc. etc. Instead they send out a well-known bulldozer called Lu Gonghu while preparing a big invasion fleet just across the straights of Tsushima pretty much out in the open. Yeah, that's stupid. But then again, people have kind of stupid habits, although none of the Mahouka enemies have shown themselves to be truly competent.

By the way, it's not really an all-out war if there hasn't been a battle for like three years. Or are you saying Great Britain and the Netherlands are still battling each other, seeing how they never signed a peace treaty?

[Valky]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Let me get this straight; they are already behind technology-wise and have lost a local battle a couple of years ago, badly. Still, they think it's wise to prepare an invasion army in order to only acquire technology? The latter can be tried by, like, espionage, bribing, cooperation with other countries etc. etc. Instead they send out a well-known bulldozer called Lu Gonghu while preparing a big invasion fleet just across the straights of Tsushima pretty much out in the open. Yeah, that's stupid. But then again, people have kind of stupid habits, although none of the Mahouka enemies have shown themselves to be truly competent.

By the way, it's not really an all-out war if there hasn't been a battle for like three years. Or are you saying Great Britain and the Netherlands are still battling each other, seeing how they never signed a peace treaty?

Err, they already tried espionage and bribing. Didn't you watched the previous episodes?

GAA army that invades Yokohama is supposed to be a covert ops, note that they didn't wear any uniform, and they camouflage their ship. It was supposed to be kind of blitzkrieg operation, but they failed because the unexpected resistance of the Japanese magicians.

The army fleet that was tried to occupy later was not only tried to steal the technology though, in the novel it was supposed to occupy Japan's territory, don't remember which.

I don't know about GB and Netherland, when are they at war again? South Korea and North Korean still pretty much at odds with each other and sometimes skirmish occurs though. Although the scale of attack wasn't that great.

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Let me get this straight; they are already behind technology-wise and have lost a local battle a couple of years ago, badly. Still, they think it's wise to prepare an invasion army in order to only acquire technology? The latter can be tried by, like, espionage, bribing, cooperation with other countries etc. etc. Instead they send out a well-known bulldozer called Lu Gonghu while preparing a big invasion fleet just across the straights of Tsushima pretty much out in the open. Yeah, that's stupid. But then again, people have kind of stupid habits, although none of the Mahouka enemies have shown themselves to be truly competent.

By the way, it's not really an all-out war if there hasn't been a battle for like three years. Or are you saying Great Britain and the Netherlands are still battling each other, seeing how they never signed a peace treaty?

GAA already did that before. you watch the anime ?

GAA also did send their Strategic Class Magician in this war to accupy japan's region.
FYI, Strategic Class Magician is a magician that has a very large area of effect magic.
for example, Tatsuya.

but he died because of Tatsuya's Bomb. ( again this because GAA don't know how powerful Japan and they don't know Japan has Tatsuya's BIG BOMB )

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Valky

Err, they already tried espionage and bribing. Didn't you watched the previous episodes?

I meant bribing scientists etc. and not some disgruntled students. And espionage, yeah, they did try hacking, but why the need to send a very recognisable grunt into Japan?

GAA army that invades Yokohama is supposed to be a covert ops, note that they didn't wear any uniform, and they camouflage their ship. It was supposed to be kind of blitzkrieg operation, but they failed because the unexpected resistance of the Japanese magicians.

Covert ops using APVs and a small army, not very well thought out. There isn't any other country in the proximity who is able to field those military things. It's like the Russians entering the Crimea and saying it's local self-defense forces. This whole operation is very poorly planned and executed, hence stupid.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Valky

Well, you might want to read Rain then. Another OP Magician, well, in his case it's sword magic. OP character with OP abilities, and yes, he can Summon Meteors.

On the serious note, it didn't explained by the scriptwriter, which is the reason why I don't like this adaptation.
Note that GAA is behind in magic tech so they want to steal data about magic & magicians of Japan from the Magic Association, they also want to kidnap valuable magicians so they could be used as tools in negotiation for releasing the prisoners of GAA.

SO, it was explained their reason of the invasion in the novel?

If infiltrated Magic Association was their goal, then what is the reason they are attacking the civilians and students from everywhere? Isn't that they supposed to focus everything on the Magic Association?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by noobita

If infiltrated Magic Association was their goal, then what is the reason they are attacking the civilians and students from everywhere? Isn't that they supposed to focus everything on the Magic Association?

Probably to show how evil they are and how justified nuking them is.

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by noobita

SO, it was explained their reason of the invasion in the novel?

If infiltrated Magic Association was their goal, then what is the reason they are attacking the civilians and students from everywhere? Isn't that they supposed to focus everything on the Magic Association?

As a distraction and as hostages,would have worked until Godsuya did his hacking

See Chen (the guy with the beard),infiltration mission and tech data theft was supposed to be a success until Miyuki with Mizuki's help stopped him.

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by noobita

SO, it was explained their reason of the invasion in the novel?

If infiltrated Magic Association was their goal, then what is the reason they are attacking the civilians and students from everywhere? Isn't that they supposed to focus everything on the Magic Association?

GAA want to occupy japan's territory.
they also want to kidnap high school magician to experiment on their magic power.
read the novel for more details, this will be spoiler if we continue discuss this thing.

[Valky]

Originally Posted by My Zodiac Aries

-snip-

It's a spoiler. It only known later at volume 8. The adaptation is only until volume 7 (minus volume 5, which aren't adapted).

Personally, I think it's quite understandable that people who only watch the anime has a lot of questions. Madhouse did poorly in terms of the series composition and script after all. All they do pretty good was only the animation.

Man, they suck.

Originally Posted by SigUp

I meant bribing scientists etc. and not some disgruntled students. And espionage, yeah, they did try hacking, but why the need to send a very recognisable grunt into Japan?

While I agree with your argument, the story is about 'High School' though, perhaps that's the reason why the collaborator is students. Very recognizable grunt, as in the tiger? He is one of the best close combat magician of the world, and he is Chen's trusted subordinate. Since Chen is sent for the mission, I guess it's not that strange for him to follow suit.

Covert ops using APVs and a small army, not very well thought out. There isn't any other country in the proximity who is able to field those things. It's like this whole operation is very poorly planned and executed, hence stupid.

As I said, it was supposed to be a blitzkrieg and covert operation hence the small army, but it failed. If they bring a lot of battleships, it won't be covert anymore.

Originally Posted by noobita

SO, it was explained their reason of the invasion in the novel?

If infiltrated Magic Association was their goal, then what is the reason they are attacking the civilians and students from everywhere? Isn't that they supposed to focus everything on the Magic Association?

Yes it was explained.

Err, I already answered it before. One of the reason is to kidnap valuable magicians to be used as tools in negotiations.

Note that the students also a magician, a valuable asset of Japan's military. They might want to reduce Japan's power too since Japan has fewer magicians compared to other magic advanced countries.

[Avrorrange]

My Onii-Sama can't be this OP!

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Valky

As I said, it was supposed to be a blitzkrieg and covert operation hence the small army, but it failed. If they bring a lot of battleships, it won't be covert anymore.

It wasn't covert the first place. Blitzkrieg isn't exactly the same as covert. Even if they succeeded, bringing those APVs and soldiers the first place it would have been fairly obvious who was responsible. That's not exactly the sense of a covert operation. In fact I'd say it doesn't make a difference whether they instantly brought battleships or "only" their small army.

Very recognizable grunt, as in the tiger? He is one of the best close combat magician of the world, and he is Chen's trusted subordinate. Since Chen is sent for the mission, I guess it's not that strange for him to follow suit.

Well yeah, but this again isn't particularly well planned if they want to operate in secrecy. Lu Gonghu seems pretty well known and his affiliation is fairly clear. Once he is spotted it's very obvious who is scheming there. All in all it sums up to what I call a badly planned operation.

[Lexxus]

Was it mentioned who was the woman Tatsuya with in the episode 1 prologue? Or this considered as spoiler?

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Lexxus

Was it mentioned who was the woman Tatsuya with in the episode 1 prologue? Or this considered as spoiler?

It would be a spoiler since she is part of the arc after yokohama which goes indepth into the siblings' past.

[Lexxus]

Originally Posted by IceHism

It would be a spoiler since she is part of the arc after yokohama which goes indepth into the siblings' past.

Ah, okay. I thought I missed something.

[chaosbeowulf]

Regarding GAA's blunder... from what I can see, it's mostly caused by bad intel. And who is the intelligence agent for GAA in Japan? Zhou Gongjin. Who has his own agenda to run. Coincidence?