Mahouka LN - Spoiler-restricted Q&A (for people who want short, simple answers only)

[somerand]

Originally Posted by zerozeronine

And Mayumi vol 5 last chapter,bathroom scene,but not to the extent of Erika's realization.

I'd say their realization is actually pretty even. They both know he has connections to the Yotsuba family and that is it. Neither of them have any real idea what his position is within the family, but Mayumi guesses more accurately as to his level within the family. While he might not technically be an "Extra" his position within the yotsuba is basically the same equivalent.

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by somerand

I'd say their realization is actually pretty even. They both know he has connections to the Yotsuba family and that is it. Neither of them have any real idea what his position is within the family, but Mayumi guesses more accurately as to his level within the family. While he might not technically be an "Extra" his position within the yotsuba is basically the same equivalent.

But from my understanding was that Erika realized that Tatuysa was a member of the Yotsuba directly while for Mayumi,he was from an extra family.

[DOmus]

Little question, in volume 10,chapter 8 when Erika was complaining about tatsuya

"In the end, we were probably only flirting with Tatsuya. We plainly never requested Tatsuya-kun to 'lend us a hand' and worked under the assumption that even if we didn't say anything, he would still chip in to help. So I was furious ~ when I saw that he was also helping that woman and keeping a foot in either camp.... Damn it, I'm getting embarrassed again."

1.when she said flirting, she refers to her ususal way of talking to him or how she indirectly asked to help him in the vampire things???
2.when she said "´we´ were flirting..." - she was refering to her and mayumi right??

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by DOmus

Little question, in volume 10,chapter 8 when Erika was complaining about tatsuya

1.when she said flirting, she refers to her ususal way of talking to him or how she indirectly asked to help him in the vampire things???

How they asked for his help I think.

2.when she said "´we´ were flirting..." - she was refering to her and mayumi right??

Her and Mikihiko, he was her only partner.

[DOmus]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Her and Mikihiko, he was her only partner.

why would miki start flirting to tatsuya??

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by DOmus

why would miki start flirting to tatsuya??

I don't know, maybe it's a mistranslation but it can't be Mayumi's group because of the rest of the paragraph and their were in different camps.

I understand it like this, originally Erika didn't want his help but deep down she knew(or hoped) he would come to help his friends but Mikihiko had already requested him and that's why she was angry. When she learned that he was helping also Mayumi, she got jealous. If my memory serves me right, Mayumi and Katsuto asked for his help(if they didn't her jealousy is even more understandable) meaning that she was jealous because she wanted him to help her and only her.

[DOmus]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

I don't know, maybe it's a mistranslation but it can't be Mayumi's group because of the rest of the paragraph and their were in different camps.

I understand it like this, originally Erika didn't want his help but deep down she knew(or hoped) he would come to help his friends but Mikihiko had already requested him and that's why she was angry. When she learned that he was helping also Mayumi, she got jealous. If my memory serves me right, Mayumi and Katsuto asked for his help(if they didn't her jealousy is even more understandable) meaning that she was jealous because she wanted him to help her and only her.

i got that part, now i dont feel the word flirting fits there

[pampz21]

Lol bruh on that quote she mentioned "that woman" referring to Mayumi; Erika misunderstood herself; Mayumi uses flirting technique on Tatsuya all the time when she as favors.; she probably thought she is doing the same. but Tatsuya was just earnestly worried about her. Erika will never ask Tatsuya's help because she thinks that even if she doesnt ask to, he will still help his friends. but Tatsuya doesnt want to help Erika because He thinks that Erika might think that he is pitying her. Both of them are just stubborn.

A good answer from a guy on wiki

The fact that the quote pertains to Erika being jelous is because she did felt jelous that Tatsuya help Mayumi out because they ask him to; and Erika thought she is just getting flirty with Tatsuya because Mayumi uses that tecqnique to Tatsuya alot so she thought she is doing the same thing too.

Erika just work on the assumption that Tatsuya would always help his friends even if no one ask to; but Tatsuya didnt want to help her due to thought that She might think he is pitying her. Thats why Tatsuya never help her; but the fact that Miki ask him to help(Tatsuya made that excuse because its the most interesting one and to hide the fact that he is worried about her) and Erika getting hurt; was the last draw. he had to help Erika now and the reason why she had help Mayumi's camp too is because it might look like Tatsuya is pitying her. In the end it is all Erika's misunderstanding; proof is that Tatsuya did ask Miki to bring sandwish to Erika who is trying to avoid Tatsuya.

[Echizen777]

Mayumi was not flirting...

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Mayumi was not flirting...

hahahaha (fake laugh)

[DOmus]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Mayumi was not flirting...

thats as true as saying that tatsuya is weak :v

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by DOmus

thats as true as saying that tatsuya is weak :v

She never tried to seduce him as far as I remember, yes she is a troll and was angry at him sometimes when she judged he was not paying attention to her feminine charms but that's all. The only persons who tried to seduce Tatsuya are Miyuki(almost everytime they are alone at home) and Haruka.
Maybe Honoka in volume 5 counts? When she is like that it's always because of Miyuki or Shizuku anyway. In volume 3 Tatsuya misunderstood and she considered flirting would be useless in volume 5 because of Miyuki.

[zerozeronine]

The Shiba's are a branch family right,even though Miya is a daughter of the main family?

[somerand]

Originally Posted by zerozeronine

The Shiba's are a branch family right,even though Miya is a daughter of the main family?

Are they considered a branch family? I kind of doubt it. Tatsurou isn't a magician he's a researcher who is probably considered to be more a part of the research team.
Miyuki on the other hand is basically considered by everyone to be "Miyuki Yotsuba" and is just using the last name Shiba as cover. Tatsuya is a guardian who isn't likely considered to carry on the Shiba line (Guardians probably don't have the right to be considered a branch family). So I doubt the "Shiba" are a branch, but maybe.

[Ultragunner]

Shiba is the last name of Tatsuya and Miyuki's father, their mother (Miya) changed her her name when she got married

Spoiler for mild spoiler?:

the Yotsuba actually does have a branch family, but with a different name (not Shiba)

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Shiba is the last name of Tatsuya and Miyuki's father, their mother (Miya) changed her her name when she got married

Spoiler for mild spoiler?:

the Yotsuba actually does have a branch family, but with a different name (not Shiba)

But the Kuroba's are considered a branch family when the Sibling's grandmother married to the Kuroba house.But the Kuroba's is a bigger family than the Shiba's with only Miyuki considered a Yotsuba

[renuac]

Originally Posted by zerozeronine

But the Kuroba's are considered a branch family when the Sibling's grandmother married to the Kuroba house.But the Kuroba's is a bigger family than the Shiba's with only Miyuki considered a Yotsuba

The previous head of that family was stated to be Genzou's cousin. They were still directly related to the Yotsuba.

A branch family comes about as an offshoot of the main family. For example when a younger child goes and founds their own family. In Miya's case, she simply married into the already existing Shiba family, so the Shiba family's roots aren't with the Yotsuba. So I'd say that while Tatsuya and Miyuki are considered kin to the Yotsuba, the rest of the Shiba family are no more than relatives by marriage.

[Sixth]

About the Yokohama arc, will we see more (or a lot ) of the oni-sama's greatness?

and is the main villain in that arc a fodder too like Not-Suzaku?

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by noobita

About the Yokohama arc, will we see more (or a lot ) of the oni-sama's greatness?

and is the main villain in that arc a fodder too like Not-Suzaku?

yes to first question.

the main villain in the arc doesn't even fight but from what we know in vol 13, he can beat yotsuba family members(not sure about tatsuya yet).

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by noobita

About the Yokohama arc, will we see more (or a lot ) of the oni-sama's greatness?

Yeah we will see a lot of Tatsuya's greatness in this arc.

Originally Posted by noobita

and is the main villain in that arc a fodder too like Not-Suzaku?

No, I wouldn't say that the main villain of the Yokohama arc is a fodder ...