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brightman · 2009-12-13, 15:34

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Originally Posted by justavisitor

Talking about Pie II...did Pie II survive at the end?? I really hope she did...she either fainted or died in the last episode...I hope it's the former

Its left ambiguous (sort of like Amuro & Char in CCA), but someone who looks like her does make a cameo appearance in Gundam Evolve 10.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2009-12-13, 15:35

She died shortly after she helped locate Judau inside Axis; most likely because of her injuries resulted from the destruction of the Queen Mansa not long before.

The Evolve stuff, sadly, isn't considered canon.

Rising Dragon · 2009-12-13, 15:36

A few more pilots in Char's Counterattack would have happier endings if the Evolve shorts were canon...

justavisitor · 2009-12-13, 15:39

Thanks for the info brightman...hmm got to rewatch gundam evolve again

I know Pie II can't replace the original...but still I was really sad when the original one passed away...so I was hoping that Pie II would have a better fate XD

P.S there seems to be an another clone from Pie in Unicorn and I read somewhere that she had an extremely tragic past...why every version of Pie must endure a tragic story...

@RX-78GP04G Gerbera
well, the series kind of left it ambiguous...did you get that info from other source?? Or I missed some detail when I watched the series??
Damn I really like Pie and Pie II

brightman · 2009-12-13, 15:40

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Originally Posted by RX-78GP04G Gerbera

The Evolve stuff, sadly, isn't considered canon.

Says who?

I know a few of the shorts directly contradict the actual anime, but some don't. Until someone says otherwise, I wouldn't say it so definitively.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2009-12-13, 15:40

Perhaps...though, personally, I'm glad Quess died. She was annoying XD.

Then again, if she had lived, then that could prevent Hathaway from becoming a terrorist and being executed and such in Hathaway's Flash XP.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2009-12-13, 15:42

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Originally Posted by brightman

Says who?

I know a few of the shorts directly contradict the actual anime, but some don't. Until someone says otherwise, I wouldn't say it so definitively.

Only official animations are considered 100% canon.

Manga, Evolve, Sidestories, none of the other stuff is unless they are said so otherwise, regardless of whether or not they interfere with the canon timelines.

brightman · 2009-12-13, 15:42

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Originally Posted by RX-78GP04G Gerbera

Only official animations are considered 100% canon.

Evolve is officially animated by Sunrise.

Rising Dragon · 2009-12-13, 15:45

No one truly gives a shit about Sunrise's official stance on canon except for Sunrise itself, last I checked, so arguing about it does no one any good, guys.

brightman · 2009-12-13, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

No one truly gives a shit about Sunrise's official stance on canon except for Sunrise itself, last I checked, so arguing about it does no one any good, guys.

Exactly my point. Believe what you want to. I bet a few Tomino-enthusiasts would probably consider Unicorn non-canon.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2009-12-13, 15:47

Ok then, reworded, only the official animes. If Unicorn wasn't getting its OVA, even that wouldn't be considered canon.

justavisitor · 2009-12-13, 15:50

probably offtopic, but any news that there will be a HGUC ZZ Gundam?? I checked dalong, and somehow ZZ gundam is not in there...is this series really that unpopular??

brightman · 2009-12-13, 15:52

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Originally Posted by RX-78GP04G Gerbera

Ok then, reworded, only the official animes. If Unicorn wasn't getting its OVA, even that wouldn't be considered canon.

Again, nobody ever said Evolve was not an official anime. Besides, even official anime contradict each other (such as the TV series/movie discrepancies).

So yeah, until someone comes out and says, "no, this stuff never happened", or something else comes out that contradicts this, there is no "official Sunrise stance" for this.

chanchimi · 2010-01-02, 01:23

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Originally Posted by brightman

Its left ambiguous (sort of like Amuro & Char in CCA), but someone who looks like her does make a cameo appearance in Gundam Evolve 10.

Oh! That person in the end of Gundam Evolve 10 was Mineva Zabi, not a Puru. And yeah, Puru Two did die at the end of ZZ.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2010-01-02, 01:52

Where does it say that? As far as most people are concerned, she's been hidden ever since the end of Zeta Gundam with no known (official) appearances since.

brightman · 2010-01-02, 09:10

There is a Z Gundam game with an animated ending showing Mineva on Earth with Char around this time. (let's not go into canonness of that here)

And of course, there's Gundam Unicorn which should dispel the notion that she went to Jupiter piloting a Quebeley.

chanchimi · 2010-01-02, 15:50

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Originally Posted by RX-78GP04G Gerbera

Where does it say that? As far as most people are concerned, she's been hidden ever since the end of Zeta Gundam with no known (official) appearances since.

I got the Gundam Encyclopedia 2009, and I looked at the pilot's name of the Evolve Qubeley Mk.II and it was Mineva Zabi's. I found it pretty weird.

brightman · 2010-01-02, 20:00

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Originally Posted by chanchimi

I got the Gundam Encyclopedia 2009, and I looked at the pilot's name of the Evolve Qubeley Mk.II and it was Mineva Zabi's. I found it pretty weird.

Makes absolutely no sense, as per the above. Could be a mistake.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2010-01-02, 20:16

Not to mention that it'd make no sense to have her hidden all this time only to suddenly appear out of nowhere in a MS battle with remnant Neo Zeon MS...especially with no battleships evidently nearby for the Qubeley Mark II to launch from or return to as well as with the Dooben Wolf MS.

chanchimi · 2010-01-03, 00:13

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Originally Posted by brightman

Makes absolutely no sense, as per the above. Could be a mistake.

I know, it doesn't make any sense. I also saw the same thing that Mineva was the pilot somewhere online, although I can't remember where. Oh, but in a way, why would a bunch of Dooben Wolves be chasing after a Puru clone? It seems chasing Mineva Zabi seems more understandable.

It's wierd, and I think we will find out what happens when Gundam Unicorn airs.

2009-12-13, 15:35	Link #102
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply She died shortly after she helped locate Judau inside Axis; most likely because of her injuries resulted from the destruction of the Queen Mansa not long before. The Evolve stuff, sadly, isn't considered canon. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	A few more pilots in Char's Counterattack would have happier endings if the Evolve shorts were canon... __________________

2009-12-13, 15:39	Link #104
justavisitor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Earth	Thanks for the info brightman...hmm got to rewatch gundam evolve again I know Pie II can't replace the original...but still I was really sad when the original one passed away...so I was hoping that Pie II would have a better fate XD P.S there seems to be an another clone from Pie in Unicorn and I read somewhere that she had an extremely tragic past...why every version of Pie must endure a tragic story... @RX-78GP04G Gerbera well, the series kind of left it ambiguous...did you get that info from other source?? Or I missed some detail when I watched the series?? Damn I really like Pie and Pie II __________________ Come and join Ranka Lee Fanclub !!! Join our club and you will see 1)Ranka pics 2)Ranka/Alto pic 3)Relatively Sane discussion about Ranka 4)amv for Ranka To all old and new Sheryl fans: I am a Ranka fan and I have significant experience in defending various "crimes" committed by Ranka, from her evil plan to terminate human races, to feeding inapporiate food to unknown lifeforms. If you think you find "new" charges aginst Ranka and you are interested, or you care to see how a particular Ranka fan would respond, please feel free to check my previous comment. There is a good chance that I have answered a similiar issue. And of course, my viewpoints do not necessarily represent other perspectivs from numerous Ranka fans in this planet

2009-12-13, 15:40	Link #106
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply Perhaps...though, personally, I'm glad Quess died. She was annoying XD. Then again, if she had lived, then that could prevent Hathaway from becoming a terrorist and being executed and such in Hathaway's Flash XP. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2009-12-13, 15:45	Link #109
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	No one truly gives a shit about Sunrise's official stance on canon except for Sunrise itself, last I checked, so arguing about it does no one any good, guys. __________________

2009-12-13, 15:47	Link #111
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply Ok then, reworded, only the official animes. If Unicorn wasn't getting its OVA, even that wouldn't be considered canon. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2009-12-13, 15:50	Link #112
justavisitor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Earth	probably offtopic, but any news that there will be a HGUC ZZ Gundam?? I checked dalong, and somehow ZZ gundam is not in there...is this series really that unpopular?? __________________ Come and join Ranka Lee Fanclub !!! Join our club and you will see 1)Ranka pics 2)Ranka/Alto pic 3)Relatively Sane discussion about Ranka 4)amv for Ranka To all old and new Sheryl fans: I am a Ranka fan and I have significant experience in defending various "crimes" committed by Ranka, from her evil plan to terminate human races, to feeding inapporiate food to unknown lifeforms. If you think you find "new" charges aginst Ranka and you are interested, or you care to see how a particular Ranka fan would respond, please feel free to check my previous comment. There is a good chance that I have answered a similiar issue. And of course, my viewpoints do not necessarily represent other perspectivs from numerous Ranka fans in this planet

2010-01-02, 01:52	Link #115
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply Where does it say that? As far as most people are concerned, she's been hidden ever since the end of Zeta Gundam with no known (official) appearances since. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2010-01-02, 09:10	Link #116
brightman Ancient Member Join Date: Apr 2002	There is a Z Gundam game with an animated ending showing Mineva on Earth with Char around this time. (let's not go into canonness of that here) And of course, there's Gundam Unicorn which should dispel the notion that she went to Jupiter piloting a Quebeley. __________________ Copyright © 2002 Brightman

2010-01-02, 20:16	Link #119
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply Not to mention that it'd make no sense to have her hidden all this time only to suddenly appear out of nowhere in a MS battle with remnant Neo Zeon MS...especially with no battleships evidently nearby for the Qubeley Mark II to launch from or return to as well as with the Dooben Wolf MS. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon