(L) Seirei Gensouki: Spirit Chronicles

[Enternal]

Originally Posted by faiz blaster

First, upon learning that the author is actually a woman, I came to the conclusion that this is probably a self-insert fic - only that the writer is projecting herself on the heroine. Under this assumption, the main character would actually be her vision of an ideal man. By that same coin, the "less than likeable" male characters may based on real men that she had problems with (ex-boyfriends?)...

...now, on a more serious note.

I would like to talk about one of the most mysterious characters of this story: the human-spirit Aisha. Now call me crazy, but could it be that...

Spoiler for wild speculation:

...she is actually a reincarnated Miharu? I know it may seem that I am grasping at straws here, but it is not like this is coming out of the nowhere. Subtle hints were given here and there throughout the whole series, from their vaguely similar designs to the fact that their names have the same meaning. What really sold me on this idea was that scene where they share a dream about Haruto's past life. At the time, it seemed to me that Aisha had a personal investment in making sure that Miharu understood Haruto as much as her. Now, why would that be?

Here is my current theory: in her own timeline, Aisha/Miharu died with the regret of being separated from Haruto - something that got her reincarnated as a spirit and contracted with Haruto at some point in Earth's past, so they could always be together. This is similar to how Haruto died with the regret of not seeing Miharu again and got reincarnated in Beltram's past, where he could grow up to meet her once again.

Regarding what you said about "less than likeable" men, this is exactly what I thought and wrote in the forums on J-Novel for this series. That's one reason why I wrote on there that I rather like this series because it has all the usual things you would like from a harem story BUT the MC is actually competent, likable, kind, good looking, and various other traits similar to male romantic interests you would find in otome games, if you ever played those (if you are interested in otome games, give Code Realize a try). However, I would disagree with you about it being a self-insert fic. For me, it does not feel like a self-insert fic compared to many other harem novels.

As to your theory, I can see where you're getting at. But... I think I may need to reread it again to be sure. The reason why Aisia would know so much about Haruto is also literally because she's part of his soul. So there's that. But there is that part as to why she summoned him and specifically him. The stuff about gods and stuff have not been delved much into yet even though it's clearly a big thing. Seems like the author wants to explore many other things first before coming back to this subject.

[Mirable]

Originally Posted by Roberto1

Can you tell us a little about that fight?
how did it develop?
and I'm very interested in the interaction of Cristina and Rio during the fight, how was it?

Well this is probably hardest fight for Rio due to some disadvantage (we even see Rio lost his blood the for first time)

if i got it right, Rucius's demon sword type is space element, he can attack every direction. The annoying thing is sometime Rucius random attacked at Christina or Flora (attack at random direction too) that force Rio can only focus on defend Rucius's attacked to protect Christina, Flora and himself.

Christina was cry and beg Rio for a whole time to not protect them. See Rio got hurt cuz of her and Flora is really heart her heart.

Originally Posted by Enternal

And then Rio will improve upon it to its full potential and used it back on Hiroaki. That would crush his pride.

Rio: *disappears and appears right behind Hiroaki*
Rio: Yamata no Orochi!
Hiroaki: NANI!?
Rio: *In English* Nothing personal, kid.

Funny that i think Rio perfectly use Hiroaki's skill in full potential, he can create 8 giant snake like in legend while Hiroaki can only create 4-5

[Denker]

Regarding the aisia/miharu theory: rven if you ignore "aisia being part of his soul" as an argument for her identity, its clear that dhe wants him to be happy. She showing Miharu those dreams was because Miharu is the most impoetant figure in Rio's life and any possible happiness.
Also, since Miharu is an innocent, humble yet beautiful, powerless, but strong-hearted japanese girl, you can make an argument that the author is doing a self-insert in a way.
Kind of the same type in the Twilight novels: the female author wrote a bland HS student that every notorious man around her desired.
I neverthought of the males as being her exes tho. I could see Hiroaki (self-centered neet) and takstrash (possessive bf) but I feel they are more clichés you would find in most romantic novels... Well maybe not Hiroaki. She definitely based him on someone.
Also, didn't Hiroaki actually complete the Yamat-no-Orochi at the last moment against Rio?

[For Miharu]

Need someone spoil picture

[jagt]

Originally Posted by Denker

Regarding the aisia/miharu theory: rven if you ignore "aisia being part of his soul" as an argument for her identity, its clear that dhe wants him to be happy. She showing Miharu those dreams was because Miharu is the most impoetant figure in Rio's life and any possible happiness.
Also, since Miharu is an innocent, humble yet beautiful, powerless, but strong-hearted japanese girl, you can make an argument that the author is doing a self-insert in a way.
Kind of the same type in the Twilight novels: the female author wrote a bland HS student that every notorious man around her desired.
I neverthought of the males as being her exes tho. I could see Hiroaki (self-centered neet) and takstrash (possessive bf) but I feel they are more clichés you would find in most romantic novels... Well maybe not Hiroaki. She definitely based him on someone.
Also, didn't Hiroaki actually complete the Yamat-no-Orochi at the last moment against Rio?

Hiroaki used the Yamata no Orochi two times against Rio, the first one at the beginning of the fight, with five heads, the second one at the end of the fight, with seven heads, the second time the heads were all bigger than before, easier to move and were even able of shooting water, but because Hiroaki was just and amateur while using Yamata no Orochi he was completely defenseless, and even if he was better at controlling the heads than in the first try he's still far from being able of using them well.

Even if Rio was able of creating eight heads and fighting with his sword and moving at the same time not like Hiroaki, Yamata no Orochi had eight tales too, so without creating those maybe he can't say that he created a proper copy of the dragon.

I never understood either why Hiroaki decided to call his katana Yamata no Orochi to begin with, he said that Yamata no Orochi was a god of water and capable of control it, but in the myth it's said that Yamata no Orochi was a god from the mountain, it even had moss and trees growing from its back, it was never said either anything about it being able of controlling water, the myth just tells how the dragon died pathetically in the hands of the god Susano'o, I can understand it if you want to compare how Yamata no Orochi asked to be given young girls as sacrifices to eat them with how the people of Restoration has to get Hiroaki a harem if they want him to keep being their hero, or comparing how Susano'o killed Yamata no Orochi without any difficulty after tricking him despite being a dragon as big as eight mountains together with how Hiroaki always puts on airs and in the end nothing, but out of those two things, in my opinion a spirit art based in Yamata no Orochi loyal to the myth it should have been a dragon made of earth with eight heads and tails able of breathing fire.

I just remembered that Susano'o in that legend agreed to kill Yamata no Orochi in exchange of having the girl that the dragon was going to eat as a sacrifice as his wife, is the author trying to have Lizelotte in the paper of that goddess and Rio as Susano'o ? Is this a reference to that legend, I wonder?

[Roberto1]

Originally Posted by Mirable

Well this is probably hardest fight for Rio due to some disadvantage (we even see Rio lost his blood the for first time)

if i got it right, Rucius's demon sword type is space element, he can attack every direction. The annoying thing is sometime Rucius random attacked at Christina or Flora (attack at random direction too) that force Rio can only focus on defend Rucius's attacked to protect Christina, Flora and himself.

Christina was cry and beg Rio for a whole time to not protect them. See Rio got hurt cuz of her and Flora is really heart her heart.

Funny that i think Rio perfectly use Hiroaki's skill in full potential, he can create 8 giant snake like in legend while Hiroaki can only create 4-5

Thanks man, it seems it was Rio toughest fight until now, so, do you think Cristina is now in love or not yet?

[Mirable]

Originally Posted by Roberto1

Thanks man, it seems it was Rio toughest fight until now, so, do you think Cristina is now in love or not yet?

Right now i can't say she is in love with Rio, at least not yet.

It's all depend on what Rio will say to Christina in next volume, right now Christina will blame herself even more after Rio got injured cuz of her and Flora.

Originally Posted by For Miharu

Need someone spoil picture

Not thing much, just Miharu get embarrassed after she remind the day when she confessed Rio.

[faiz blaster]

Originally Posted by jagt

I never understood either why Hiroaki decided to call his katana Yamata no Orochi to begin with, he said that Yamata no Orochi was a god of water and capable of control it, but in the myth it's said that Yamata no Orochi was a god from the mountain, it even had moss and trees growing from its back, it was never said either anything about it being able of controlling water, the myth just tells how the dragon died pathetically in the hands of the god Susano'o, I can understand it if you want to compare how Yamata no Orochi asked to be given young girls as sacrifices to eat them with how the people of Restoration has to get Hiroaki a harem if they want him to keep being their hero, or comparing how Susano'o killed Yamata no Orochi without any difficulty after tricking him despite being a dragon as big as eight mountains together with how Hiroaki always puts on airs and in the end nothing, but out of those two things, in my opinion a spirit art based in Yamata no Orochi loyal to the myth it should have been a dragon made of earth with eight heads and tails able of breathing fire.

I just remembered that Susano'o in that legend agreed to kill Yamata no Orochi in exchange of having the girl that the dragon was going to eat as a sacrifice as his wife, is the author trying to have Lizelotte in the paper of that goddess and Rio as Susano'o ? Is this a reference to that legend, I wonder?

First, never think too deeply about this sort of thing. Writers often take “creative liberties” at times like these to suit their needs.

Second, Japanese mythology indeed regards the Yamata-no-Orochi as both a Mountain God and a Water God. The basic form of the legend says that Orochi was a monster that had its lair at a certain mountain. Despite living mostly in seclusion, it came down from the mountain once a year to terrorize the humans that lived nearby. On those instances, it would make the travel by swimming through a river that started at the top of the mountain and flowed all the way to its base. Basically, it was a deification of the river flood phenomena that happened during the rainy seasons, an embodiment of a natural disaster.

I grant you that there are some similarities between the Susanoo-Orochi legends and the situation involving Hiroaki and Haruto, but to say that was intentional from the author’s part is still hasty at this point. Besides, if you’re right, then we would have to ask ourselves what is Roana’s role in all this, as her circumstances are also similar to Lizelotte’s.

[Roberto1]

Originally Posted by Mirable

Right now i can't say she is in love with Rio, at least not yet.

It's all depend on what Rio will say to Christina in next volume, right now Christina will blame herself even more after Rio got injured cuz of her and Flora.

Not thing much, just Miharu get embarrassed after she remind the day when she confessed Rio.

Thanks man, in that case I hope she falls in volume 15, but as i see guilt feelings shouldn't avoid romantic feelings to be born, i am sure flora feels guilty yet she is totally in love with Rio

i think you guys are overestimating Hiroaki way too much XD

he choose that name cause he thinks it sounds cool, that's all.

[jagt]

Originally Posted by Roberto1

Thanks man, in that case I hope she falls in volume 15, but as i see guilt feelings shouldn't avoid romantic feelings to be born, i am sure flora feels guilty yet she is totally in love with Rio

At least in my opinion Cristina has loved Rio as much as Flora since the academy time and it's because of that love that she feels so guilty about all that happened to him.

Originally Posted by Roberto1

i think you guys are overestimating Hiroaki way too much XD

he choose that name cause he thinks it sounds cool, that's all.

It isn't that I think that Hiroaki is strong or something, in fact I thought too when I saw what name he choose for his katana that that guy's illness was serious.

In fact my words to describe Hiroaki are "bocas", "milhomes" and "moito ruido e poucas noces".

Bocas: some who is just words or and just says inappropiate things at the worst moment possible.
milhomes: someone that put on airs, who talks always big of himself but is clear for everyone to see how useless he really is.
moito ruido e poucas noces: a popular saying that refers to things or people that are just a great disappointment in the end.

By the way, the words that I used to describe Hiroaki are in galician not in portuguese, there're similitudes between the two but they're different in the end.

[Roberto1]

Originally Posted by jagt

At least in my opinion Cristina has loved Rio as much as Flora since the academy time and it's because of that love that she feels so guilty about all that happened to him.



It isn't that I think that Hiroaki is strong or something, in fact I thought too when I saw what name he choose for his katana that that guy's illness was serious.

In fact my words to describe Hiroaki are "bocas", "milhomes" and "moito ruido e poucas noces".

Bocas: some who is just words or and just says inappropiate things at the worst moment possible.
milhomes: someone that put on airs, who talks always big of himself but is clear for everyone to see how useless he really is.
moito ruido e poucas noces: a popular saying that refers to things or people that are just a great disappointment in the end.

By the way, the words that I used to describe Hiroaki are in galician not in portuguese, there're similitudes between the two but they're different in the end.

i am not sure man, if that's true she hides her feelings way better than Flora, she hides them so well i am not sure if she is really in love yet, on the other hand Flora tries to hide her feelings but it's painfully obvious anyway lol

I think Flora's feelings towards Rio are stronger than liselote's and satsuki's feelings towards Rio,
don't you agree?
i believe that Flora's love towards Rio is really strong


that phrase you used to describe hiroaki exists in my country too, but here is like "mucho ruido pocas nueces" there is also another good phrase here "perro que ladra no muerde" it refers to a guy who speaks a lot but doesn't really do anything to back up his tongue.

[Mirable]

Volume 15 teaser.

Originally Posted by rouge translate

The result of battle to death, Rio finally killed his mortal enemy, Rucius.

Along the ways to return to the rock house where the precious girls are waiting for him, Rio decided to escort the princess sisters who had been kidnapped by Rucius to Rodania.

On the other hand, due to the disappearance of Flora who was scheduled to become a Hiroaki's legal wife, Hiroaki nominated Liselotte as his fiancée.

[Would you like to move on from business relationship?]

I wonder who's asking Liselotte this question?

[Roberto1]

Originally Posted by Mirable

Volume 15 teaser.


I wonder who's asking Liselotte this question?

Duke hugenot, i think, then liselote says NO and that's it, but i wonder if that's going to end so smoothy.

My friend thinks there is going to be a 2° round, Rio vs hiroaki, but i am not sure, i would like to think hiroaki is not that stupid.

[jagt]

Originally Posted by Roberto1

i am not sure man, if that's true she hides her feelings way better than Flora, she hides them so well i am not sure if she is really in love yet, on the other hand Flora tries to hide her feelings but it's painfully obvious anyway lol

I think Flora's feelings towards Rio are stronger than liselote's and satsuki's feelings towards Rio,
don't you agree?
i believe that Flora's love towards Rio is really strong


that phrase you used to describe hiroaki exists in my country too, but here is like "mucho ruido pocas nueces" there is also another good phrase here "perro que ladra no muerde" it refers to a guy who speaks a lot but doesn't really do anything to back up his tongue.

Once you're able of reading I think you will think that Cristina has always loved Rio the same as me.

I don't know how strong Lizelotte's feelings for Rio are, until now the only mention to Lizelotte's feelings for Rio were in their conversation in volume 13, when she heard Rio calling Celia's name without honorifics she was really worried and curious about how close they seemed to be with each other but in the end she didn't dare to ask him about it, then when Rio left her room she was completely embarrased and flusterd wondering if she really made it look like she liked Rio for the people there and wondering about all if she has given impression to Rio himself too and what did he though about her making something as bold as taking him with her to her room, not knowing yet what were Rikka's feelings for Haruto when they met in their previous lifes doesn't help either to figure out how strongly she loves Rio or not, Satsuki in my opinion is yet to fall for Rio so, I won't say that Rio isn't important for her but it isn't romantical yet, so comparing with hers Flora's feelings may be stronger right now.

Originally Posted by Mirable

Volume 15 teaser.


I wonder who's asking Liselotte this question?

Isn't this sentence something Hiroaki is telling himself in loud voice instead of asking it someone else? At least to me when watching that text in the final ilustration that wording looked like Hiroaki's to me. In the original the text instead of "eigyou" that is the japanese word for business it's writen"bijinesu" in katakana, the only one who puts words in katakana in the middle of his sentences like that is Hiroaki

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Hiroaki needs to be placed in a life or death situation to hammer into his head that this is not a game.

[Enternal]

I think you guys might like this:
https://imgur.com/a/lYMR6Vn

It's not the entire book. Also, I'm sorry but I refuse to de-bind the book and scan it in as it's my only copy. Perhaps in the future if I get another copy of it.

[Enternal]

Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

Hiroaki needs to be placed in a life or death situation to hammered again. into his head that this is not a game.

FTFY Am I too mean?

[Roberto1]

I want him dead, but i don't think that's possible

[ReiKazumi]

when next volume will be release?

[HighBurstED]

It should be next winter