(L) Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari [WN]

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Asuka'

Well, tateyu was quite heavy since the first scene (dat bocchi and rape accusation). So I think it is hard to bring up in anime.

Originally Posted by The Green One

Not to mention discrimination, child slavery, and torture of said child slaves. All in the first arc too.

Shieldbro is pretty dark, I don't think the "demographic" would be into a story like this. They want comfy stories to self insert to, the only way an anime would work is if it was an art first adaptation instead of a 12-24 episode commercial. Honestly who cares though the LN's are selling great, the story is waaay improved and catering to the anime fans would only effect the story negatively.

[WyrdMonger]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Shieldbro sells great without needing an anime plus, imo, anime usually don't do the source material justice and focus on garbage and fanservice aspects. Smartphone is a silly story who needed a boost in sales, SAO had waning sales so they gave it an anime. Japan doesn't give a a shit about how sales do for anime nor how popular a story is outside of their own country unless you're One Piece big. Personally an anime would ruin the story I'm happier without one since Shieldbro doesn't have fanservice so they'd have to force shit in to pander.

Also, a good way to know what story will get an anime and what won't is to look at it this way (loss in sales numbers + fanservice + harem + what's popular at the time)^how many idols are retiring.

Somehow I'm getting the feeling that Japan's entertainment industry is even darker than most managa.

[ultimatehaki]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Shieldbro is pretty dark, I don't think the "demographic" would be into a story like this. They want comfy stories to self insert to, the only way an anime would work is if it was an art first adaptation instead of a 12-24 episode commercial. Honestly who cares though the LN's are selling great, the story is waaay improved and catering to the anime fans would only effect the story negatively.

There's been adaptation of "heavier" works before. Not to mention it starts out dark and gets lighter, emphasizing the "rising" aspect of the show.

[The Green One]

In other news, Volume 7 of the Light Novel is coming out in the US in the next couple of days. Keep an eye out for it.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by ultimatehaki

There's been adaptation of "heavier" works before. Not to mention it starts out dark and gets lighter, emphasizing the "rising" aspect of the show.

Not dark as in theme, I'm talking dark as in the first 14-17 episodes will be Shieldbro getting screwed over then spend the rest of the story fighting a losing battle against the waves and other heroes.

[Amuris]

Originally Posted by The Green One

In other news, Volume 7 of the Light Novel is coming out in the US in the next couple of days. Keep an eye out for it.

got mine the day before yesterday!

[OmegaWeaponZ]

Quick question to those willing to answer, should I read the wn first, or is it more advisable to read the english ln first?

I ask, since I had this on my reading back log for a while, and now that its a little better, I was wondering which would be a better read.

[The Green One]

Hard to answer. The Web Novel is fully translated and complete, so you can enjoy a full story. The Light Novel is currently up to Volume 7, with the current volume having come out just less than a week ago.

Basically the Web Novel's benefit is being complete, *cough*and free to read online if you're willing to look for it*cough* while the Light Novel is more polished and has an expanded story and has better pacing.

[SILENTANIMELOVER]

I just got Volume 7 today. I can't wait to read it.

[InMyOwnMind]

Originally Posted by El Rue

...Oh.

It seems you've read the LN version already based from those conclusions. Please if possible, do state differences, instances or scenes in the new & updated stories where those wonderful traits & characterizations of hers are changed or subverted as such.

You know...aside from the visuals or her new costume.

This is a fairly late reply but I don't frequent the boards so much anymore so oh well. The sarcasm and subtle hostility is kind of unnecessary. It's just my opinion, there's no reason to get offended.

I didn't claim that it changed her characterization, and the subject was about her design so I cant really ignore visuals and costume. Her personality can still be exactly the same, but the LN screwed her design in overhauling it to have that pure Japanese aesthetic. The Kimono clad Katana wielding Tanuki Miko is a far cry from the Armor wearing Hammer swinging Tanuki Goddess, No? Are you seriously going to tell me that you think the LN version is a complete improvement and doesn't have any sort of cliche attached to it?

[El Rue]

Originally Posted by InMyOwnMind

. The sarcasm and subtle hostility is kind of unnecessary. It's just my opinion, there's no reason to get offended.

Well, pardon, but it seems that I'm being misunderstood. I am actually being honestly sincere & upfront there, sarcasm & hostility free & whatnot.
Was being extra respectful sounding like that?

From your firm unwavering opinion, I simply assumed that you know more about the LN adaptation seeing how critical you are about it seemingly adding from the art visuals.

Seeing how apparently most of us here have yet to read through it, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt or hear out more info regarding the LN version's choices & changes & the overall impressions from the updated plot & characterizations so far. The updated story could very much improve or at the very least justify what we're seeing which again circles back to my post you originally quoted how its more likely that there's "more to the LN version & not just 'japanophile cliche's".

Personally, from the visual art designs of their gears & looks alone w/ no regard to whatever plot background thing related to them or if they'll ever change back to what they look etc.etc., I'm liking it.

[BWTraveller]

A question by a LN reader who hasn't yet read the web novels (I'm fair at reading Japanese, but not great enough to read pure text like in a WN). I don't know if it happens in the WN but the LN implies that along with an initial party, Motoyasu wound up picking up a lot of young new adventurers over and over who always lasted a short while before the main party members... dealt with them. What I want to know is, if this was in the WN or someone has read all the LNs, do these girls ever show up again? I don't mind seriously messed up situations happening from time to time, but I really hate the idea of a character being created for the sole purpose of being hurt and violated to demonstrate the problems with other characters. Not to mention I think it'd be interesting for the jerk to wind up having to face them at some point. If anyone knows, a PM is fine but please let me know.

As for anime, we can always hope. I don't think it's as bad as some are suggesting. Yes, Naofumi's life in the other world is really crappy for a long time, but for all the crap he has allies that stick to him and trust him with all their being. Not to mention that he proceeds to earn love and respect even fairly early on. Yes, the first one or two episodes would have him getting piled on from all sides. But then you'd see him steadily making friends and earning admiration, and not only would these look all the bigger for the persecution preceding it, but it would also mean more because the people that admire him and love him aren't doing this because he's a hero and they expect him to be worthy, they do so because he EARNED their love and admiration. Yes, you'd have a lot of dark, but it's the dark of a starry sky, and the lights shining in that dark are really a great sight to behold. From what I've heard, this is certainly popular enough to make a profit for the animators. I just hope, if they do choose to animate it at some point, they come up with a better way to portray Raphtalia's growth than what we got in the LN and manga. Maybe have her appear little but sort of flicker, or maybe people seem to be looking over her head, or windows and mirrors reflect a much more mature self, so that the audience is clued in that something's up but the fact that he's basically hallucinating isn't given away so blatantly. Let us see things from his perspective for a bit rather than thrust on us the fact that his perspective is wrong.

[The Green One]

In the WN the various female party members that Motoyasu attracted were stated to have been "driven off" by bullying from Bitch and "Woman #1" who's name Nafoumi can't be bothered to remember. It doesn't go into detail on how they got rid of the various girls, whether if the girls left the party voluntarily or if Bitch.....disposed of them like shown for one girl in the LN.

[Tascan]

Hello.
Please, help to understand the ending of WN.

Spoiler for The main question:

As I understood: Naofumi created 2 copies of himself.
1) The first came to modern Japan and there he married Raphtalia and possibly Atlas
2) The second one remained in the world to which he was called. There he married Raphtalia and Melty
And I'm interested in two questions:
1) How Raphtalia can be in two worlds, if God is only Naofumi?
2) Is there a third version of Raphtalia, which remained with Naofumi God?

Just the connection of the last three chapters is not very clear.

Spoiler for Additional question:

The chapter "Chapter 376 - Alternate Worlds, and Modern Ones" tells about his two fragments (clones)
In the chapter "Chapter 377 - Rock Valley's Heroic Legend" - Epilogue, which tells what happened to the protagonists in the world, in which they were called
But here in "Chapter 378 - The Rise of the Shield Hero" is spoken about Naofumi God. And there it is said that when he returned to the country, he was met by Firo and Atlas. Then came Raphtalia. But is not Raphtalia from this world already dying? He came back several centuries later. Or is it just 3 version of Raphtalia, which remained with the main character - a god and she, too, is immortal?

[teddychan]

I want to find the illustrations of Tate no yuusha vol 18 Y_Y

[The Green One]

Originally Posted by Tascan

Hello.
Please, help to understand the ending of WN.

Spoiler for The main question:

As I understood: Naofumi created 2 copies of himself.
1) The first came to modern Japan and there he married Raphtalia and possibly Atlas
2) The second one remained in the world to which he was called. There he married Raphtalia and Melty
And I'm interested in two questions:
1) How Raphtalia can be in two worlds, if God is only Naofumi?
2) Is there a third version of Raphtalia, which remained with Naofumi God?

Just the connection of the last three chapters is not very clear.

Spoiler for Additional question:

The chapter "Chapter 376 - Alternate Worlds, and Modern Ones" tells about his two fragments (clones)
In the chapter "Chapter 377 - Rock Valley's Heroic Legend" - Epilogue, which tells what happened to the protagonists in the world, in which they were called
But here in "Chapter 378 - The Rise of the Shield Hero" is spoken about Naofumi God. And there it is said that when he returned to the country, he was met by Firo and Atlas. Then came Raphtalia. But is not Raphtalia from this world already dying? He came back several centuries later. Or is it just 3 version of Raphtalia, which remained with the main character - a god and she, too, is immortal?

Spoiler for Answer:

Raphtalia is on an equal level of existence as Naofumi so spiltting herself like he can is a simple matter for her. Naofumi and Raphtalia left versions of themselves in the alternate world as well as Nafoumi's world who lived out their full lifespans as mortals and had families while the original God Naofumi and Goddess Raphatila were off doing their own things. When the split off copies of the two died the memories and experiences returned to the originals. The epilogue mentions how God Naofumi and Goddess Raphtalia came back to the alternate world long after the mortal copies had died off and they are the ones who met the now immortal Firo who rejoined them.

[Tascan]

Originally Posted by The Green One

Spoiler for Answer:

Raphtalia is on an equal level of existence as Nafoumi so spiltting herself like he can is a simple matter for her. Nafoumi and Raphtalia left versions of themselves in the alternate world as well as Nafoumi's world who lived out their full lifespans as mortals and had families while the original God Nafoumi and Goddess Raphatila were off doing their own things. When the split off copies of the two died the memories and experiences returned to the originals. The epilogue mentions how Goddess Naofumi and God Raphtalia came back to the alternate world long after the mortal copies had died off and they are the ones who met the now immortal Firo who rejoined them.

Thank you very much for your answer.

Spoiler for Eventually:

Thank you very much for your answer.
It seems to be a good ending. But on the other hand, it turns out that God Nafoumi and Goddess Raphatila are always at war. And they themselves do not have the opportunity to live a happy life. Only the returning fragments give memories.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Tascan

Thank you very much for your answer.

Spoiler for Eventually:

Thank you very much for your answer.
It seems to be a good ending. But on the other hand, it turns out that God Nafoumi and Goddess Raphatila are always at war. And they themselves do not have the opportunity to live a happy life. Only the returning fragments give memories.

No they're happy, they're just gods I would assume them leaving copies of themselves to bring happiness to existences like Melty, Atlas and the other girls like the mole, orca and other slave beasts and having families with them makes them gods of benevolence and balance. Personally I didn't like the ending of the WN it became too, too, convoluted and an overly fantastical power trip, though I liked the way he pulled it off to make it a happy ending, but imo the whole god elements and otherworld elements were too much.

[The One Above God]

Honestly, the only thing I'm really bothered with over the last part of the WN are the names of the attacks and some parts of the dialogue in the fight against Bu-, I mean Bitch.

[ivaannom]

Tate no Yuusha gets Anime.