2020-08-22, 13:54 | Link #1001 |
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1918 Flu was highly irregular in how the second wave came about so quickly, with much higher mortality. Since then, that virus has followed the usual evolutionary trend of becoming less fatal. That's why many people think that the second wave of 1918 had little to do with mutations - but then what? It's still a mystery.
If the same thing happens with Corona, current science has to revise some of its assumptions about viral pandemics. Probably won't happen, but I doubt that we have hit the peak yet, either. I think the peak will come sometime after everyone gets tired of trying to contain it.
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2020-08-25, 21:10 | Link #1002 |
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Not a good new, but health experts saw this possibility
https://www.ecowatch.com/coronavirus...647082756.html Also could mean Sweden's effort was for nothing Last edited by McW; 2020-08-25 at 21:31. |
2020-08-26, 17:33 | Link #1003 |
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Sweden's death rate is the worst in Europe
I suspect they are pursuing herd immunity because of sunk cost fallacy, and they believe in Swedish moral exceptionalism. Yes, sadly, it's not only right wingers who do it. Last time I checked, herd immunity requires 70% of the population to have immunity. Any country intentionally pursuing that through intentional infections has more that a few loose screws or believe the propaganda "economist" are sprouting. //
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2020-08-27, 12:47 | Link #1005 | |
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Serious note, this past week at my local hospital we have seen a significant decrease in covid patients or rule-out covid patients. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but this past week at work it was a nice little break and just overall to see my unit (which is the designated covid unit) half full last week.
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2020-09-02, 21:03 | Link #1006 |
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I've been skeptical about the deaths number from the States so I wanted to compare number of registered deaths in earlier years vs. deaths this year to confirm the general number on COVID death but there's no data after March this year from the cdc website. Now is 6 months from March, they should at least have 1 month up after. I don't know if they're still playing with the numbers or they forgot to update the data.
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2020-09-02, 21:39 | Link #1007 | |
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US says it won’t join global effort to find COVID-19 vaccine
Whatever you think of WHO, they're not the only organization involved and cooperation has other benefits for yourself and others. Quote:
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India will supply coronavirus vaccines to the world — will its people benefit?
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2020-09-03, 04:15 | Link #1009 |
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Assuming vaccines pass Phase III, the main issue as usually brought up is that supply will likely not keep up with demand for the first few months, if not a year.
And we can expect rich countries to bid out poorer countries for supplies. Insomuch as I admire what GAVI's been trying to do, especially in the past, the proposals they raised still doesn't address the inequality of healthcare in this sector.
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2020-09-03, 06:59 | Link #1010 | |
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html According to this, the number of excess deaths in the US between 1st March and 1st August was 213,500 (vs 154,917 reported COVID-19 deaths in the same period). |
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2020-09-03, 08:57 | Link #1011 | |
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Heck, I fear that it might even be nearly worthless by the time vials with the vaccine reach 1st world health clinics >_< Last edited by mangamuscle; 2020-09-03 at 09:35. |
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2020-09-03, 10:13 | Link #1012 | |
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html Between March 1st and August 1st, "excess" deaths exceeded deaths attributed to the coronavirus by over 58,000. They also have a detailed report for US states: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...deaths-us.html "Across the United States [through July 25th], at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus. " Wacky conspiracy theories about the reported figures for cases and deaths abound on right-wing social media sites. On Tuesday Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa and a dedicated Trumpist, claimed that the figures were overstated because doctors got paid more for COVID cases than for other treatments. There is no evidence for this. There's also the distortion that, because the CDC said only 6% of deaths from COVID did not involve a co-moridibity, the real death toll is around 10,000 . At base, all of these theories rest on the presumption that the "deep state" and Democrats are hyping the death toll to hurt Trump.
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2020-09-03, 22:08 | Link #1015 |
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I'm trying to get numbers from here:
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2020-09-04, 13:09 | Link #1016 | |
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2020-09-04, 22:03 | Link #1017 | |
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2020-09-04, 23:35 | Link #1019 | |
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ON THE OTHER HAND, there's SOOOO much more he could've done! I'm realistic enough to know that no matter what, people were going to die no matter what- such is the price for trial and error with dealing with something current science hasn't been able to beat yet. BUT... he could've encouraged folks to wear masks and to stay home. He could've listened to Dr. Fauci, the medical expert throughout this entire thing, about how to truly minimize deaths. Instead, Trump called it a hoax from the very beginning, only recently changing his tune. Hell, Obama actually wrote up a playbook on how to handle possible situations like this- but Trump, in his arrogance (and probably overall hatred of Obama) threw that playbook away and hasn't even bothered to try and find it again. Trump could've been a true hero and 100% guaranteed his re-election in November. But no, he's allowed the US to become the most infected and highest death toll country through this pandemic. This is the slogan I'm sticking with- Trump lied, people died.
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2020-09-05, 09:12 | Link #1020 | |
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Meanwhile trumptards are floating the idea that since on death certificates on the USA only 6% report only covid19 as cause of death, that is the real death toll of this pandemic, all other people would have died anyway this year they say, grasping at straws with true idiocy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TECf3xSFbU I have no doubt the CDC like the National Hurricane Center have no appetite for angering the orange ape by saying the truth he does not like to hear or see. |
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