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katokateki · 2017-03-21, 17:32

I was talking about Crom. He needs at least 5 of the 8 pawn pieces to be mutational. I guess it could be 6-7 too.

But he is not joining anyone, not with his pride at least.

DragonOsman · 2017-03-21, 17:39

Yeah, Crom should require 4 or 5 Mutation Pawns at least. But yeah, his pride probably won't allow it. He only became Rias' Pawn for the tournament because it lets him fight strong guys. He won't actually become anyone's servant unless the King is someone he has a lot of respect for.

Tbolt · 2017-03-21, 17:41

Going way back in the story where it was stated Ise wanted a peerage of nothing but women still stands even with all the people he has met. All the guys Ise knows or is friends with, Ise see's as rivals (friendly or otherwise) so they are not peerage candidates.

And all the talk about mutation pieces is fun but as far as the story goes it could never happen since Ise has no mutation pieces, and no he can't change the ones he has.

DragonOsman · 2017-03-21, 17:45

We don't know if any of the Pieces he received are Mutation Pieces or not, though, do we?

Of course he won't get any male servants, so the talk about Crom Cruach was just meant to shoot down all those things others were saying about Crom Cruach becoming Ise's servant (Queen in this case - though it's not set in stone that he'd really be a Queen since compatibility needs to be taken into account too). And besides, Crom Cruach probably won't even agree to be reincarnated by anyone.

katokateki · 2017-03-21, 17:49

Well, he was Balor's servant technically, Ise's take on it is that he won't "descend" to being a devil from a dragon. And that's true, if dragons got pride, evil dragons have got even more. Some to the point of becoming crazy. Most of the evil dragons have nothing to prove in their heads, they just want to do what a dragons traditionally did, i.e. fight.

Crom challenging Ophis proved that he doesn't care about his loss, all he wants to do is fight stronger dragons, but living in the human world changed him to the extent that he respected Ophis' decision. Cool guy, I feel like Crom is the most badass character in dxd.

@Tbolt But the pieces grow with the King, I wonder how much the pieces would grow when Ise reaches AxA... But yeah, Crom should never join Ise.

@Osman Does the fact that he is Rias' pawn give us a hint as to what pieces he could be compatible with? I guess...

Bleach1996 · 2017-03-21, 17:59

So crom surpassed Ddraig but does issei can surpass him with AxA ExE ok but with DxD ... he got the power of 2 Dragon-God Class in his body
By the way if team issei and Team Rias should fight who dou you think will win ???

Brawlre · 2017-03-21, 18:24

@Bleach1996 don't double post edit the post into one bigger post. Also has any more spoilers been leaked?

DragonOsman · 2017-03-21, 18:48

Noman's posting them as he gets them. You're caught up.

@Bleach1996: the match-up questions don't belong here. There's another thread for that. And yeah, what Brawlre said about the double-posting. Actually, consecutive posts one right after the other by the same poster, in general, are frowned upon. Just use the "edit" button.

@Katokateki: Again, only Unused Pieces grow with the King. That literally means "Pieces that are unused grow with the King". Okay? There's no special meaning in the term "Unused Pieces". It means it exactly what it says. Pieces that are kept without being used for long enough grow with the King and can develop special characteristics. But we don't even know if an Unused Piece can actually mutate.

B214 · 2017-03-21, 22:31

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Originally Posted by DragonOsman

We don't know if any of the Pieces he received are Mutation Pieces or not, though, do we?

Of course he won't get any male servants, so the talk about Crom Cruach was just meant to shoot down all those things others were saying about Crom Cruach becoming Ise's servant (Queen in this case - though it's not set in stone that he'd really be a Queen since compatibility needs to be taken into account too). And besides, Crom Cruach probably won't even agree to be reincarnated by anyone.

What would really be ironic is that Ise's traded away his Mutation Piece unknowingly for one of his current servants.

katokateki · 2017-03-22, 01:22

@Osman I know about the unused pieces condition and Ise hasn't used his pawn pieces yet. They are growing.

B214 · 2017-03-22, 01:49

What if Tiamat's treasure which she lend to Ddraig is actually a bra.

Hakai · 2017-03-22, 02:04

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Originally Posted by B214

What if Tiamat's treasure which she lend to Ddraig is actually a bra.

And sniffing/eating that gave him the strength to fight Albion

katokateki · 2017-03-22, 02:15

I don't even want to think what a dragon's bra looks(and smells/tastes) like.

Sparda4 · 2017-03-22, 07:08

@Osman Well if unused pieces grow with the devil in question then if the they reach a high enough level those pieces could in theory mutate, like we don't even know what causes a normal piece to mutate to begin with.

DragonOsman · 2017-03-22, 10:53

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Originally Posted by katokateki

I don't even want to think what a dragon's bra looks(and smells/tastes) like.

As if Tiamat can't assume a human form. Heck, she's even in it right now. But either way, if Dragons had bras, they'd have a smell that would be appealing to Dragons.

@Hakaishin: Yep.

@Sparda4: Yeah, we don't know. But that's exactly why we shouldn't talk in definite terms about it as if we actually know.

katokateki · 2017-03-22, 11:03

I don't think Tiamat had assumed human form back then(why would she? Balance of probability), that was a long time ago, and that joke made me wonder what Tiamat's bra could actually be like, not a pleasant imagination.

But anyway, it was meant to be a joke, we shouldn't be discussing about dragons' undergarments, it's weird. (Right?)

DragonOsman · 2017-03-22, 11:13

Yeah, it is. And I guess you're right about Tiamat not having a human form at that time yet.

Crimson406 · 2017-03-22, 15:04

Question about Crom.

Since he has surpassed Ddraig and Albion in their primes, does that mean he's immune to Ddraig's Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames and Albion's Reduce ability?

Hakai · 2017-03-22, 15:24

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Originally Posted by CrimsonDarkness406

Question about Crom.

Since he has surpassed Ddraig and Albion in their primes, does that mean he's immune to Ddraig's Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames and Albion's Reduce ability?

I don't think he is.
It says

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...But Crom Cruach's base spec has surpassed Ddraig's before he was sealed? I guess that's the result of not being slain till now and training himself even further.

Vritra's the weakest out of Dragon Kings in 'base spec' but his flames/curse would still likely work on the other Kings if they get hit.

katokateki · 2017-03-22, 15:26

I also remember a discussion once with Osman where we concluded that it wasn't related to power levels. But I don't remember how we came to that conclusion

2017-03-21, 17:32	Link #1001
katokateki Senior Kouhai Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: India Age: 26	I was talking about Crom. He needs at least 5 of the 8 pawn pieces to be mutational. I guess it could be 6-7 too. But he is not joining anyone, not with his pride at least. __________________ Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. -Kurt Cobain

2017-03-21, 17:39	Link #1002
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Yeah, Crom should require 4 or 5 Mutation Pawns at least. But yeah, his pride probably won't allow it. He only became Rias' Pawn for the tournament because it lets him fight strong guys. He won't actually become anyone's servant unless the King is someone he has a lot of respect for. __________________

2017-03-21, 17:41	Link #1003
Tbolt Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Texas	Going way back in the story where it was stated Ise wanted a peerage of nothing but women still stands even with all the people he has met. All the guys Ise knows or is friends with, Ise see's as rivals (friendly or otherwise) so they are not peerage candidates. And all the talk about mutation pieces is fun but as far as the story goes it could never happen since Ise has no mutation pieces, and no he can't change the ones he has. __________________

2017-03-21, 17:45	Link #1004
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	We don't know if any of the Pieces he received are Mutation Pieces or not, though, do we? Of course he won't get any male servants, so the talk about Crom Cruach was just meant to shoot down all those things others were saying about Crom Cruach becoming Ise's servant (Queen in this case - though it's not set in stone that he'd really be a Queen since compatibility needs to be taken into account too). And besides, Crom Cruach probably won't even agree to be reincarnated by anyone. __________________

2017-03-21, 17:49	Link #1005
katokateki Senior Kouhai Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: India Age: 26	Well, he was Balor's servant technically, Ise's take on it is that he won't "descend" to being a devil from a dragon. And that's true, if dragons got pride, evil dragons have got even more. Some to the point of becoming crazy. Most of the evil dragons have nothing to prove in their heads, they just want to do what a dragons traditionally did, i.e. fight. Crom challenging Ophis proved that he doesn't care about his loss, all he wants to do is fight stronger dragons, but living in the human world changed him to the extent that he respected Ophis' decision. Cool guy, I feel like Crom is the most badass character in dxd. @Tbolt But the pieces grow with the King, I wonder how much the pieces would grow when Ise reaches AxA... But yeah, Crom should never join Ise. @Osman Does the fact that he is Rias' pawn give us a hint as to what pieces he could be compatible with? I guess... __________________ Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. -Kurt Cobain

2017-03-21, 17:59	Link #1006
Bleach1996 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Paris	So crom surpassed Ddraig but does issei can surpass him with AxA ExE ok but with DxD ... he got the power of 2 Dragon-God Class in his body By the way if team issei and Team Rias should fight who dou you think will win ??? __________________ Fine, now is a good time to teach you something: even Villains have standards! Accelerator Strongest Level 5 of Academy city Last edited by Bleach1996; 2017-03-21 at 20:35.

2017-03-21, 18:24	Link #1007
Brawlre Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015	@Bleach1996 don't double post edit the post into one bigger post. Also has any more spoilers been leaked?

2017-03-21, 18:48	Link #1008
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Noman's posting them as he gets them. You're caught up. @Bleach1996: the match-up questions don't belong here. There's another thread for that. And yeah, what Brawlre said about the double-posting. Actually, consecutive posts one right after the other by the same poster, in general, are frowned upon. Just use the "edit" button. @Katokateki: Again, only Unused Pieces grow with the King. That literally means "Pieces that are unused grow with the King". Okay? There's no special meaning in the term "Unused Pieces". It means it exactly what it says. Pieces that are kept without being used for long enough grow with the King and can develop special characteristics. But we don't even know if an Unused Piece can actually mutate. __________________

2017-03-22, 01:22	Link #1010
katokateki Senior Kouhai Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: India Age: 26	@Osman I know about the unused pieces condition and Ise hasn't used his pawn pieces yet. They are growing. __________________ Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. -Kurt Cobain

2017-03-22, 01:49	Link #1011
B214 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	What if Tiamat's treasure which she lend to Ddraig is actually a bra.

2017-03-22, 02:15	Link #1013
katokateki Senior Kouhai Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: India Age: 26	I don't even want to think what a dragon's bra looks(and smells/tastes) like. __________________ Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. -Kurt Cobain

2017-03-22, 07:08	Link #1014
Sparda4 Dark Knight Join Date: Dec 2016 Age: 25	@Osman Well if unused pieces grow with the devil in question then if the they reach a high enough level those pieces could in theory mutate, like we don't even know what causes a normal piece to mutate to begin with.

2017-03-22, 11:03	Link #1016
katokateki Senior Kouhai Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: India Age: 26	I don't think Tiamat had assumed human form back then(why would she? Balance of probability), that was a long time ago, and that joke made me wonder what Tiamat's bra could actually be like, not a pleasant imagination. But anyway, it was meant to be a joke, we shouldn't be discussing about dragons' undergarments, it's weird. (Right?) __________________ Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. -Kurt Cobain

2017-03-22, 11:13	Link #1017
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Yeah, it is. And I guess you're right about Tiamat not having a human form at that time yet. __________________

2017-03-22, 15:04	Link #1018
Crimson406 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Eastern USA Age: 32	Question about Crom. Since he has surpassed Ddraig and Albion in their primes, does that mean he's immune to Ddraig's Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames and Albion's Reduce ability?

2017-03-22, 15:26	Link #1020
katokateki Senior Kouhai Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: India Age: 26	I also remember a discussion once with Osman where we concluded that it wasn't related to power levels. But I don't remember how we came to that conclusion __________________ Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. -Kurt Cobain