2008-12-05, 00:09 | Link #81 | |
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Since the keys were inside, the only way these closed rooms could have been locked (without some other theory) is by turning the knob manually from the inside. Unless you find a loophole in the 'none of the doors or windows have an autolock', this had to be done by a person. I still think the real answer is the obvious 'the door from the boiler room to the courtyard was had no lock on it', as it isn't denied by the red or Beatrice's closed room definition in white text. I doubt ep4 will go over the previous chapters in detail, but it might rely on the previous red text. Last edited by chronotrig; 2008-12-05 at 00:22. |
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2008-12-05, 00:26 | Link #82 |
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I keep wondering something about Beato, if she considers herself non-human she could exclude herself from any count of "people", yeah? Even if there's a human Beato running around, under anti-mystery that Beato is the same as the one in the meta world, and she could consequently exclude her.
Similarly, even if the goat heads represent some actual force (I'm actually suspecting that "goat men" may refer to Caucasians or just other people from off the island if some wordplay that applies in Chinese is still valid in Japanese; add the three water droplets sign to the left side of "goat"), she would probably note them as non-human. Maybe not significant and a little too low, but just bringing it up in case it's a blind spot. |
2008-12-05, 02:08 | Link #83 | ||
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2008-12-05, 04:18 | Link #85 |
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I think that if there's a Witch around with a flesh and blood body, we have to consider her as a human being.
But the way the witches are shown to us, they are more like ghosts (the ritual is to REVIVE Beatrice, right?), so I don't think they count as (living) humans (that is, if they really exist, of course). And this stuff of furniture not being human is a big stretch. It'd only mess the story.
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2008-12-05, 14:40 | Link #87 | |
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Consequently, it should be equally invalid for her to say "I am just a human" as "I committed all the murders using magic" in red. EDIT: To clarify, I don't think Beato can cheat with the red text simply based on her own beliefs, but if the truth value is different between anti-fantasy and anti-mystery, she can only make the statement in white text; she can't ignore one or the other. Basically, don't assume anti-fantasy is the only truth, because that only becomes the case when everything is solved. If something's in red, it applies to both truths. |
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2008-12-06, 00:47 | Link #88 |
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I've been wondering... what happens if the first person to solve the riddle is Battler?
Wouldn't that force Beatrice to pass the golden witch title to Battler creating a golden "warlock" Battler-Beatrice? Then what? Battler has to face Battler-Beatrice? Or you can't have two Battlers and Battler-Beatrice fight Ange instead? Kind of confusing... You get a normal new "witch" no matter who solves the riddle except for Battler... EDIT: Thinking about it wouldn't that be a good way to make Battler submit... If you accept witches you get to be one and then get the power to "fix" everything... a tempting proposition no? Last edited by Sindas; 2008-12-06 at 06:34. |
2008-12-20, 11:23 | Link #93 |
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Comiket is coming closer and closer and still no updates on the main site. I wonder what direction episode 4 will take... I can't believe that in less than 2 weeks the game will finally be out, I can't wait! ^.^
(Even though I can't read Japanese anyway. ^^; )
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2008-12-20, 15:11 | Link #94 |
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Yeah, it's weird that they haven't even posted one in-game picture yet.
All we do know now is that it will be a very different direction, longer than ep3... And also that it will introduce more new backgrounds and tachi-e's (in-game character pictures) than ep3 did, and ep3 introduced a whole lot. |
2008-12-21, 01:56 | Link #96 |
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If you count all of them, a whopping 295 tachi-e's were added to the game file between ep2 and ep3 (and 1 keiichi tachi-e was taken out). A great deal of these were never used in the game, like the copies of all of Beato's new ep3 expressions in her ep2 suit outfit, and a lot are just copies with guns added or clothes changes for Eva-Beatrice.
Still, no matter how you count it, it's a huge number. Oh, and about 60 or so new backgrounds for ep3 Last edited by chronotrig; 2008-12-21 at 02:28. Reason: bg |
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