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Yakhobian · 2008-01-20, 00:11

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Originally Posted by fict_ticious

Haha that's awesome. No such problems in my copy of the original, funnily enough.

It's also a shame that the English translations have to make the text bubbles bigger. The one in that English version is covering up half of Ukijima.

fict_ticious · 2008-01-20, 01:16

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Originally Posted by Yakhobian

Haha that's awesome. No such problems in my copy of the original, funnily enough.

It's also a shame that the English translations have to make the text bubbles bigger. The one in that English version is covering up half of Ukijima.

Ahhh, that wasn't a speech bubble. I was using a blank index card as a bookmark to keep the current page from flipping over since I had the other side weighed down.

Yakhobian · 2008-01-20, 05:00

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Originally Posted by fict_ticious

Ahhh, that wasn't a speech bubble. I was using a blank index card as a bookmark to keep the current page from flipping over since I had the other side weighed down.

You tricked me then.

All the same, I'm glad I can read the original. To me, a scanlation is almost as bad as a dub in anime. At least with an anime sub, you still have the original Japanese voices to hear their tone of voice and such. With a scanlation, it's like watching with the audio turned off.

Tiamat's Disciple · 2008-01-20, 07:36

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Originally Posted by Yakhobian

You tricked me then.

All the same, I'm glad I can read the original. To me, a scanlation is almost as bad as a dub in anime. At least with an anime sub, you still have the original Japanese voices to hear their tone of voice and such. With a scanlation, it's like watching with the audio turned off.

I think it depends on the group doing it. I've seen some terrible ones, and then there's the group i use now. The guys doing it are all japanese students and it's done the way it should be. All honorifics left in check, not westernised, and certain key phrases left untranslated with translations in the side.

Shame manga pubishers don't take a leaf out of their book

Vexx · 2008-01-20, 18:06

There's always a tug-of-war between just admitting that manga (in english translations) is always going to be a niche product and charge accordingly.... and continuing to try and take manga "into the mainstream Big Sale Numbers category".

"All honorifics left in check, not westernised, and certain key phrases left untranslated with translations in the side." I'd add leave the food words alone as well

Tiamat's Disciple · 2008-01-20, 23:59

The only way i can see manga going mainstream and worth big bucks, is if they totaly westernise it. Like they did with the original Dark Angel manga, and the original AMG comics. But that has more flaws in it than it would gains. And i wonder how many people would support it, or just switch over to scanlations instead.

Vexx · 2008-01-21, 02:24

I can't say I'm terribly sympathetic to "consumers" who want everything spoonfed to them. If they're interested in foreign works, they should be at least marginally able to tolerate the idea of learning a few cultural bits to better appreciate those works.

So aye... I'm on board with your principles of translation

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G. Zeus · 2008-01-21, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Tiamat's Disciple

The only way i can see manga going mainstream and worth big bucks, is if they totaly westernise it.

You have to admit though, there are some series that will NEVER go mainstream and ARIA's probably one of them. If it's any indication, it still doesn't have its own subsection in the forums despite having 1 manga, 3 anime seasons, 1 OAV, and at least 1 PS2 videogame.

fict_ticious · 2008-01-21, 17:03

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Originally Posted by G. Zeus

You have to admit though, there are some series that will NEVER go mainstream and ARIA's probably one of them. If it's any indication, it still doesn't have its own subsection in the forums despite having 1 manga, 3 anime seasons, 1 OAV, and at least 1 PS2 videogame.

And plenty of porn.

Woland · 2008-01-21, 17:21

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Originally Posted by G. Zeus

If it's any indication, it still doesn't have its own subsection in the forums despite having 1 manga, 3 anime seasons, 1 OAV, and at least 1 PS2 videogame.

Naaaah, that's probably only because Aria's fan don't like to spam too much

G. Zeus · 2008-01-21, 19:31

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Originally Posted by fict_ticious

And plenty of porn.

Shh...
Well, there's that too. Most of the good doujinshi artists seem to stick to "clean" images though since most of the H stuff that I've encountered were so-so in terms of the quality of the art.

fict_ticious · 2008-01-22, 00:53

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Originally Posted by G. Zeus

Shh...
Well, there's that too. Most of the good doujinshi artists seem to stick to "clean" images though since most of the H stuff that I've encountered were so-so in terms of the quality of the art.

Yeah, some of it is actually pretty bad, IMO. Though there are a couple I find to be... very appealing.

Tiamat's Disciple · 2008-01-24, 14:28

I'm actually a bit miffed now. Wolf and Spice has it's own forum, but Aria dosent. Whats up with that? Aria deserves it's own forum more than the likes of Wolf and spice. (not saying W&S isn't good, just saying Aria is more deserving)

fict_ticious · 2008-01-24, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Tiamat's Disciple

I'm actually a bit miffed now. Wolf and Spice has it's own forum, but Aria dosent. Whats up with that? Aria deserves it's own forum more than the likes of Wolf and spice. (not saying W&S isn't good, just saying Aria is more deserving)

You raise a good point - it kind of doesn't make sense to spread out content for a series like Aria among different boards. Though one can argue that the threads for the earlier seasons aren't exactly active

To whom do we petition to have this done?

Tiamat's Disciple · 2008-01-24, 22:26

no idea, i've never asked before lol. At a guess id say a mod

KrebMarkt · 2008-01-25, 06:30

Aria T5 in France for March 2008

km0120 · 2008-01-28, 16:03

An episode next month is the last one...
My ARIA life will end.

Spoiler for This is a crucial spoiler warning about Aricia:

fict_ticious · 2008-01-28, 18:27

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Originally Posted by km0120

An episode next month is the last one...
My ARIA life will end.

Spoiler for This is a crucial spoiler warning about Aricia:

Beh, why did I click that?

G. Zeus · 2008-01-28, 19:06

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Originally Posted by km0120

An episode next month is the last one...
My ARIA life will end.

Spoiler for This is a crucial spoiler warning about Aricia:

So, who's the lucky guy?

Jiji · 2008-01-28, 19:20

Just a bit of a spoiler, dont' you think?

2008-01-20, 18:06	Link #85
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	There's always a tug-of-war between just admitting that manga (in english translations) is always going to be a niche product and charge accordingly.... and continuing to try and take manga "into the mainstream Big Sale Numbers category". "All honorifics left in check, not westernised, and certain key phrases left untranslated with translations in the side." I'd add leave the food words alone as well __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-01-21, 02:24	Link #87
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	I can't say I'm terribly sympathetic to "consumers" who want everything spoonfed to them. If they're interested in foreign works, they should be at least marginally able to tolerate the idea of learning a few cultural bits to better appreciate those works. So aye... I'm on board with your principles of translation . __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-01-28, 16:03	Link #97
km0120 Member Join Date: Jan 2008	An episode next month is the last one... My ARIA life will end. Spoiler for This is a crucial spoiler warning about Aricia: My Aricia marries! She declared she would quit ARIA Company after her marry. Aricia had put off her success in a promotion exam for prima even if Akari has already had ability as a prima, because she did not want to leave her. The moving of my heart stopped after reading ARIA this month.

2008-01-20, 23:59	Link #86
Tiamat's Disciple Disciple of the Flames Join Date: Sep 2004	The only way i can see manga going mainstream and worth big bucks, is if they totaly westernise it. Like they did with the original Dark Angel manga, and the original AMG comics. But that has more flaws in it than it would gains. And i wonder how many people would support it, or just switch over to scanlations instead.

2008-01-24, 14:28	Link #93
Tiamat's Disciple Disciple of the Flames Join Date: Sep 2004	I'm actually a bit miffed now. Wolf and Spice has it's own forum, but Aria dosent. Whats up with that? Aria deserves it's own forum more than the likes of Wolf and spice. (not saying W&S isn't good, just saying Aria is more deserving)

2008-01-24, 22:26	Link #95
Tiamat's Disciple Disciple of the Flames Join Date: Sep 2004	no idea, i've never asked before lol. At a guess id say a mod

2008-01-25, 06:30	Link #96
KrebMarkt Never do well Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CENSORED	Aria T5 in France for March 2008

2008-01-28, 19:20	Link #100
Jiji Senior Member Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Albuquerque Age: 58	Just a bit of a spoiler, dont' you think?