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Chichiryuushintei · 2015-05-21, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Biohazardous

I think he means in the sense the power overwhelms him since it's too much. Kinda the same reason some of us feel his life is not to much to ask to use their power.

Going berserk because of overwhelming power was already used in JD though. Giving him the same thing again would make him overcoming the predecessors curse pointless, specially because it was one of his (if not the) biggest Crowning of Awesome Moment in the whole series.

Chris38 · 2015-05-21, 15:07

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Originally Posted by Biohazardous

I could be on board with that however, what do you propose as a solution to stabilize his lifespan? BTW he would have no issue with complete dragonification even permanent. He established that when fighting Riser.

Well, hard to speculate about that, when we so little information about Great Red's and Ophis's powers, which is the cause of Ise's lifespan instability.

I think that it simply needs to reach some sort of balanced state between Infinite and zero .

As for how that is going to be achieved ... maybe Kuroka and Koneko ... using Bouchuujutsu on him, at the same time will do the trick.

And, unlike you ... I think that Ise will oppose a permanent dragonification, since he would have a harder time of doing echii stuff with Rias and the rest of his harem in that form.

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Originally Posted by Biohazardous

I think he means in the sense the power overwhelms him since it's too much. Kinda the same reason some of us feel his life is not to much to ask to use their power.

Yes, that's what I had in mind.

Biohazardous · 2015-05-21, 15:13

The power will come at a cost he wont just get it. Ise himself already stated to Rias and Ddraig he has more parts to offer to get power.

Chichiryuushintei · 2015-05-21, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Biohazardous

The power will come at a cost he wont just get it. Ise himself already stated to Rias and Ddraig he has more parts to offer to get power.

Having a cst doesn't necessarily mean permanent dragonification though.

Biohazardous · 2015-05-21, 15:21

I know it don't just saying he is willing though. Maybe not as much as before but, he'd rather that over one of the girls dead.

Chichiryuushintei · 2015-05-21, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Biohazardous

I know it don't just saying he is willing though. Maybe not as much as before but, he'd rather that over one of the girls dead.

Yeah, true.

Salante · 2015-05-21, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Biohazardous

The power will come at a cost he wont just get it. Ise himself already stated to Rias and Ddraig he has more parts to offer to get power.

Well, that was before he become humanoid-dragon-devil mix. So I highly doubt some sacrifice going to happen but maybe, maybe kissing Ophis as well as GR may unlock new powers, lolz.

Gary29 · 2015-05-21, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Chris38

As for how that is going to be achieved ... maybe Kuroka and Koneko ... using Bouchuujutsu on him, at the same time will do the trick.

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“Bouchuujutsu? What is that?”
“…..A woman who specialises in using the ‘ki’ has to share her ‘ki’ to the man, and it heals the life core greatly.”
“Hmm, so there was a convenient ‘jutsu’ like that. Maybe I will ask you to do that next time.”
When I said that, Koneko-chan’s face became even more red, and she panicked. She then says it with a determined voice.
“…………………………U-Understood. B-But it is my first time, so……………”
………………….Huh? Her response is weird. Maybe I should ask her for more details about it. It seemed like something is going to happen because of my misunderstanding.
“…….Hey, I will ask you just in case, but how do you actually perform that Bouchuujutsu?”
Koneko-chan answers my question with embarrassment.

“………The man and the woman……..have to become ‘one’…… It’s a ‘jutsu’ where the woman has to send their ‘ki’ directly to the man’s body…..”

Yes, this is perfect. This is how Ise should lose his virginity to make Rias mad.

I'd still like to see that even if Rias is his first

@Chichi - I'm pretty sure Ophis knows what a soul is, considering she was able to assist in the creation of a humanoid Dragon body, that functions exactly as his old body, which requires some sort of DNA knowledge if not some hax magic.

Tbolt · 2015-05-21, 18:48

For me I think everyone is over thinking this whole thing wanting super powers etc from Ophis/Great Red. We have already seen what happens when Great Red and Ise combined for a classic whoop ass scene, I just think that the two combined powers will allow Ise to go full Dragon mode and be able to use Ddraigs powers. But its just how I see it.

Chichiryuushintei · 2015-05-21, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Gary29

Yes, this is perfect. This is how Ise should lose his virginity to make Rias mad.

I'd still like to see that even if Rias is his first

@Chichi - I'm pretty sure Ophis knows what a soul is, considering she was able to assist in the creation of a humanoid Dragon body, that functions exactly as his old body, which requires some sort of DNA knowledge if not some hax magic.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the "cuz magic" way. I doubt the Dragon God would know or care about a human concept. Heck, we've seen only a few supernatural beings that are interested in science, and even then, most are more about mechanical technology+magic than biology.

Biohazardous · 2015-05-21, 20:27

Time will tell what's up. Hopefully volume 20 can shed light on most of the things we wonder.

Archilla · 2015-05-22, 00:37

Wow. So after the earlier discussion earlier of whether Issei's first time with Rias could appear in 20, the fact that SAO had its protagonists sleep together was mentioned. I thought to myself, "Really? My little brother watches that..."

A quick google later and I was introduced to the infamous Chapter 16.5 of SAO.

What. The actual. Fuck.

And I thought DxD got a little nuts at times.

Parry999 · 2015-05-22, 00:44

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Wow. So after the earlier discussion earlier of whether Issei's first time with Rias could appear in 20, the fact that SAO had its protagonists sleep together was mentioned. I thought to myself, "Really? My little brother watches that..."

A quick google later and I was introduced to the infamous Chapter 16.5 of SAO.

What. The actual. Fuck.

And I thought DxD got a little nuts at times.

well they fucked. Only thing in that series that i read well watched a reading of it on YouTube.

B214 · 2015-05-22, 00:58

Actually SAO 16.5 is fan-made.

Parry999 · 2015-05-22, 01:04

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Originally Posted by B214

Actually SAO 16.5 is fan-made.

From what I found heard the original author wrote it

Archilla · 2015-05-22, 01:06

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Originally Posted by B214

Actually SAO 16.5 is fan-made.

Not what turned up when I looked it up. Apparently it's written by the author and was taken out before publishing or such. It was up on his website for a while.

From everything I saw, people were pretty adamant about it having been written by him.

B214 · 2015-05-22, 01:39

No it was actually written by a fan and the author merely posted it on his site but later remove it.

Parry999 · 2015-05-22, 01:44

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No it was actually written by a fan and the author merely posted it on his site but later remove it.

WHy would you post porn on your work page like that then?

B214 · 2015-05-22, 01:51

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WHy would you post porn on your work page like that then?

The author felt that the fanfic made by the fan was good so he wanted to promote it.

Anyway we should get back to Volume 20.

Parry999 · 2015-05-22, 02:14

If Ravel and Riser are missing kind of spoils that there alive but in this series that's to be expected.

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Tbolt Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Texas	For me I think everyone is over thinking this whole thing wanting super powers etc from Ophis/Great Red. We have already seen what happens when Great Red and Ise combined for a classic whoop ass scene, I just think that the two combined powers will allow Ise to go full Dragon mode and be able to use Ddraigs powers. But its just how I see it. __________________

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2015-05-22, 00:37	Link #92
Archilla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015	Wow. So after the earlier discussion earlier of whether Issei's first time with Rias could appear in 20, the fact that SAO had its protagonists sleep together was mentioned. I thought to myself, "Really? My little brother watches that..." A quick google later and I was introduced to the infamous Chapter 16.5 of SAO. What. The actual. Fuck. And I thought DxD got a little nuts at times.

2015-05-22, 00:58	Link #94
B214 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	Actually SAO 16.5 is fan-made.

2015-05-22, 01:39	Link #97
B214 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	No it was actually written by a fan and the author merely posted it on his site but later remove it.

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Parry999 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: America Age: 30	If Ravel and Riser are missing kind of spoils that there alive but in this series that's to be expected.