KanColle - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

-Having a destroyer as a flagship isn't that uncommon for us players, since Flagship in the game is the most safe position, get additional bonus (better accuracy / evasion / chance to score a critical/double attack/cut-in), AND 50% more experience.

It seems that the anime chose to deviate from gameplay and follow military comman sense in this case though, with KTKM-sama commenting on how the flagship is also usually the one that draws the enemy's attention most.

Originally Posted by chaosprophet

It's funny how Shoukaku seems to hold a similar discontent against the First Carrier Division (or is she just angry Kaga was dissing them / her sister?) but instead of Zuikaku who goes head on, she does it discretely by implying Kaga would be the escort ship.

Tbh, I cheered when Shoukaku-nee gave Kaga that subtle little stab. Take that!

Fandom usually show her as a sheeplike girl (that may or may not be a 1st CarDiv fangrill), but at least from this scene we can tell that there's steel under her wool =3. Unlike Zuikaku, she apparently knows how to handle the likes of Kaga, or least in a fashion better than her sister >=3

It's kinda like Momiji's case before and after Double Spoiler =3

[Marina2]

Originally Posted by Estavali

It seems that the anime chose to deviate from gameplay and follow military comman sense in this case though, with KTKM-sama commenting on how the flagship is also usually the one that draws the enemy's attention most.

Even If we take real military common sense into consideration, Fubuki, despite beng the flagship, will not be the first ship that get target by enemies. They probably aim at other ship first. (Except she goes to the front line like she did in current ep.)

[bhl88]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Fubuki's weakness has never been in the technical knowledge of combat and being a kanmusu. It's always been in the practical physical application of that knowledge as it pertains to her directly. Her weaknesses have all been in her own physical abilities, not her mental ones. It makes perfect sense for her to be adept at tactics, because that's a mental exercise that falls exactly within the areas she would have studied, and doesn't touch at all on the areas where she's weak: ie her physical abilities.

Fubuki was fired at though....

[Ithekro]

Fubuki, your name is not Yukikaze. Watch yourself as flagship.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Marina2

Even If we take real military comman sense into consideration, Fubuki, despite beng the flagship, will not be the first ship that get target by enemies. They probably aim at other ship first. (Except she goes to the front line like she did in current ep.)

The enemy will never suspect that a tiny destroyer is actually the flagship of the fleet.

[Ithekro]

Traditionally, in naval combat, the first target is the closest one (or first one seen), regardless of what it is. This only changes if there is a priority target, such as a carrier or battleship that is considered a primary target. Otherwise, whoever is in front is going to receive a lot of fire.

[Qikz]

So I'm a big fan of Ooi, Kitakami, Kongou (the best) and Kaga so this new Kantai is pretty damn good in my book. The only thing that somewhat ruins it is Fubuki as I'm still not a big fan of her character. I understand she's the protagonist as she's the most "down to earth" kanmusu so far, but I somewhat prefer the characters who are more out there.

I am somewhat confused why they didn't just have Fubuki - Kongou - Kaga in one room and Zuikaku, Ooi and Kitakami in the other initially though as that would solve like all the problems they had haha.

[Jimmy C]

Because each room has three bunks and the people in charge of assigning quarters aren't going to leave one empty just because some of the occupants might feel awkward about the other occupants of the room.

[Ithekro]

Because Ooi want to be alone with Kitakami. Having Zuikaku (well anyone) there would disturb her for sure.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by bhl88

Fubuki was fired at though....

And she stopped exercising command at that point. She has been training, and we've seen clearly that she's been improving her weak areas, so her ability to avoid some of the incoming fire is not too surprising. However it appeared she did take a hit, so she's still weaker there than anywhere else.

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Because Ooi want to be alone with Kitakami. Having Zuikaku (well anyone) there would disturb her for sure.

In the end seems like the two end up with Kongou while Fubuki is with Kaga and Zuikaku.

[Benigmatica]

Is this the right idea to make Fubuki the flagship of the 5th Mobile Unit?

I mean, she's putting herself at great risk against the Abyssal Fleet. I'm okay if she was upgraded, but I don't think Diomedia would get into that part!

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by chaosprophet

In the end seems like the two end up with Kongou while Fubuki is with Kaga and Zuikaku.

Which is worse for Ooichi on hindsight, since Fubuki and Zuikaku are not likely to disturb her rabu-rabu. Kaga would probably just cough and silently express her disapproval but Ooichi would probably ignore her anyway.

Kongou? IT'S TEA TIME DESU! and run over her objections like a stampede

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by Benigmatica

I mean, she's putting herself at great risk against the Abyssal Fleet. I'm okay if she was upgraded, but I don't think Diomedia would get into that part!

At least they have the KP (Kongou Punch) Shell Interception system on the fleet.

[AC-Phoenix]

Well I kinda pity fubuki.
The Kitagami CL's (even though just one of them is mean) AND Zuikaku and Kaga.

I really got no idea how the admiral came to this fleet constellation.

Zuikaku and Akagi and Shokaku and kaga would have been a far better atmosphere within the fleet, even if Kaga would continue to be an arse.
Instead he put two girls who clearly don't get along together (Catfight anyone?). Shokaku might not be exhilarated by Kaga either but they can at least work together.

I also agree on Kongou's opening statement that she should have been the Flagship, since she can take most hits. My guess is that she forgot that the other ships (especially the carriers) don't have as much armor as she has, thus they all eneded up in the bath.

Hen na hanashi btw - In the Battlestations: Pacific misison where you have to sink Shokaku and Zuikaku the American fleet composition ends up as:

USS Enterprise + screen
USS Hornet + screen
USS South Dakota + screen

How is this relevant?

Enterprise has 2 CLs + 2 Destroyers as her Screen while Hornet comes with 1 CL and 1 Destroyer.

Since the Hornet's CLtends to lay in a stupid autocourse right into the Kongou sisters who make a cameo in that mission, you probably end up pretty much with the same fleet constellation Mobile unit 5 has, just with more destroyers.

Also... How to insult a carrier: 'You flight deck chest!'

[Death Usagi]

Am I the only one who thinks that later on, Fubuki may make a misjudgment which will cost someone's life?

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Where is this from?

http://donmai.us/posts/1879728

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by Death Usagi

Am I the only one who thinks that later on, Fubuki may make a misjudgment which will cost someone's life?

I can see that happening but not sure if likely.

[ReinZwei]

Don't know, but Ooi always strikes my nerve.... -_- really hate her bitchy side.

[Qikz]

Originally Posted by ReinZwei

Don't know, but Ooi always strikes my nerve.... -_- really hate her bitchy side.

I guess that just shows people have different tastes, because I love that side of her. Saying that I also thought Yozora > Sena which your avatar seems to have the opposite so I guess there's some parallels of personality here

[Eisdrache]

I dislike both Sena and Yozora, but I don't seem to mind Ooi that much for some reason.