2012-03-03, 21:25 | Link #82 |
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I dunno....but I just think it's very sad that male teens' worth is measured by how many girls they've 'done'. On the other hand, if a GIRL was seen having sex with lots of guys, she would be called "a trashy whore" by her friends.
WUT? BOTH SEXES WOULD BE TRASHY WHORES. You're gonna damn one? Then damn the other as well! It just bugs me....I mean why would guys value each other for being immoral?
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2012-03-03, 21:43 | Link #83 | |
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I agree with what Triple just said. Most girls don't offer no strings attached sex, so the protagonist would totally crush them if he got intimate with them despite not returning their feelings, and some of the girls who don't expect anything serious in return are just nasty (See: Rika from Boku wa Tomodachi). Having an overly eager floozy throw herself at you really isn't always appealing. |
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2012-03-03, 22:10 | Link #84 | |
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2012-03-04, 06:39 | Link #85 |
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First, not all guys value themselves or others by that standard. Secondly, those who do don't consider it immoral. As for people damning only women for such acts, well that's just the societies mentality - even if things have become better, men are still thought to be superior to women.
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2012-03-04, 12:53 | Link #87 | |
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The full text of the High School Coolness Code you refer to probably reads something along the lines of "You are a loser unless you fuck random strangers every weekend, spend less than 90 percent of your free time outside school drunk or high, speak more than two sentences to your parents per month, and engage in conversation for any other purpose than to talk badly about people or fill the background with vapid white noise" My brother-in-law started his own business at the age of 12 and is an incredibly charismatic, outgoing person, but I guess he's a loser because he wanted to save himself for marriage instead of sticking his dick in some random STD-infested slut, lol (This post isn't aimed at speedyexpress btw, just high schools in general for being terrible and having the attitude he mentioned) |
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2012-03-05, 11:47 | Link #89 | |
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I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine which one I believe.
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2012-03-05, 15:44 | Link #90 | ||
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.... who exactly gets to decide that the guy is the key and the girl is the lock, or more importantly WHY THE HELL DO GUYS COMPARE A GIRL TO A LOCK?? Excuse me, but I am a human being, not a lock, I can decide how much sex I will have and why would guys have more rights in matters of sex than girls anyways???? Just because they seem to have a higher sex drive, they have monopoly on sex? Anyways.... Quote:
As for the dude who postulated, that every normal thinking guy would NEVER refuse a willing girl...... I want to ask, why should he? How immature and primitive is that attitude? I am gonna be naive here and say, that even guys have a sense of self worth and they dont jump into bed with EVERY willing girl. Of course they sometimes do, when they feel like it, but there is no obligation to do that and some might feel turned off by how the woman pretty much assumes, that he will do her, just because she has shown interest. I would be anyways. I hate when women hit on a guy and expect sex to happen and I know that sometimes guys DO SAY NO and the girl is mortally insulted... I mean, how does he dare to refuse her?? I would also like to ask the person who opened this thread to kindly stop calling guys with sense of morality gays. That is as primitive as his ideas about willing girls and sex. |
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2012-03-05, 16:20 | Link #91 | |
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Beyond that, just calm down and don't take everything so personally. You'll find that almost everyone actually agrees with what you believe, so stop looking for opportunities to get offended and just add your point of view to the discussion.
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2012-03-05, 16:40 | Link #92 | |
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Furthermore the easy lock is seen in a negative light whereas a flexible key is seen as positive thing (conventional thinking dictates that flexible keys are good). So by using this analogy you are promoting - intentional or otherwise - that a guy who can have sex with many partners is a positive thing as they are a flexible key. Now, I believe this was not your intention but then that would mean the analogy is weak because the basic premise does not reflect even a approximation of how things should be. At the end of the day sex is a mutual activity were both parties decide when it happens. Guys should take responsibility about their urges, they are not animals or slaves to their hormones. They should also know what they want. If you want to have sex early in a relationship that is fine. But it is rather hypocritical to have sex early on and then say the woman is loose unless you can agree that you are loose too. At the end of the day it takes two to tango. I will also say in this kind of dynamic the women can't win. I mean if she sleeps early then she is not relationship material but many guys will also give up if she doesn't put out early and call her a prude (it is common enough that I even hear stuff about a 3 date rule). So what is a girl supposed to do to avoid being put in a difficult place? Last edited by monsta666; 2012-03-05 at 17:02. |
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2012-03-05, 16:55 | Link #93 | |
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A man who knows how to control his animal instinct is human. But a man who follows the instinct of an animal, truly is an animal. Last edited by NoemiChan; 2012-03-05 at 17:12. |
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2012-03-05, 17:03 | Link #94 | |
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I mainly have a problem with the post of the person who opened this thread. It is a sad read when you read things like: 1) Since when are guys expected to behave morally 2) What normal guy doesnt act upon his urges 3) all guys who dont must be gay (as a matter of fact, I think there are gay people in this forum, so this is an insult not only to females, right?) Yes, I shouldnt get so upset.... I cant change the world, as much as I would want to. But it saddens me to hear such things, because in the end, I have to live in this world and I am exposed to this way of thinking on a daily basis and believe me, attitudes like this doesnt make it easy to establish a relationship these days. So yeah, I am taking this personally, because it is affecting me personally and thats why a girl can actually feel deeply wounded by such words. |
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2012-03-05, 17:06 | Link #95 |
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That seems like a very long way of saying, "The key/lock one is simplistic and makes simplistic sense, but it's also not really the correct way of looking at things." (You know, that thing I ended my post with).
Believe me, I'm very aware of the analogy's shortcomings. I also think it's the best way to describe stereotypical society's view on sex.
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2012-03-06, 18:48 | Link #98 | |
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1) Since when are guys expected to behave morally - explained above 2) What normal guy doesnt act upon his urges - explained above 3) all guys who dont must be gay (as a matter of fact, I think there are gay people in this forum, so this is an insult not only to females, right?) - just where the hell did i imply such thing? Or are you just looking for something to be troubled about? I perhaps understand that i put it out in a quite harsh way that could easily be misunderstood, so i'm at fault there, but there wasn't any bad meaning within. I apologize if the first post offended someone, i'll edit it. To sum up, once again, the question is: -Why do they show us such unreal situations, such as a hot girl teasing non-stop an indifferent guy(who is a perverted and unlucky one), rather than a "normal" boy trying to get to his beloved one, by hanging out with her, help her during sad/difficult moments, be loyal etc? I think it would be more romantic, less frustrating and overall more satisfying the other way, don't you? |
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2012-03-06, 22:59 | Link #99 | |
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There are shows that have elements like these but are trying to be more romantic. But having the protagonist select one partner typically means that other potential partners get hurt through rejection, and this introduces drama and "seriousness" to the narrative. There's certainly an audience for these types of shows as well, but it's slightly different from the romantic comedy. You might not end up with a smile on your face, but a tear in your eye. So, basically, it's two different types of shows trying to appeal to two different sorts of needs/desires. Sometimes, some people just want a sex-tease comedy, and sometimes some people want a more serious romantic show. It depends on the person and what they're in the mood for. The one genre wouldn't necessarily be better if it were more like the other.
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