Aldnoah.Zero - Episode 13 Discussion / Poll

[Jimmy C]

The thing is, Slaine sucks at scheming. I would be surprised if Saz hasn't figured out his scheme if he has one and has worked to limit his ability to act.

[Death Usagi]

What's funny is how the fake princess has been caught in the act so fast because of the "Water reflection theory" XD;;

And Inaho taught Asseylum about it, so since the fake said the wrong thing, obviously she would get caught as a fake so easily.

Also the fact they already know about the disguise tactic with Aldnoah, so yeah...

fake princess BUSTED ALREADY SO FAST >_>

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Umm, any injury to the brain can be very dangerous, it's not like skin where you graze it and it's a flesh wound. Even a concussion can be pretty dangerous if not monitored. It's a very serious injury. And you can't "graze" the brain if the bullet went through the eye and through the temporal lobe like they said. They even acknowledged that if they didn't get him into surgery in the next few minutes, there was no hope for him. He was on the edge of death.

As for the time with Rayet, it was after she had been revived by Inaho, and Rayet was shooting at her. Look back to that. Also, tears are tears....

It was definitely the blood that was the activator, not the tears.

It depends on the extent of the damage. There are cases where brain damage isn't completely fatal and only results in impairments that can be compensated for with rehabilitation. There's no way Yuki could've known where the bullet went for sure. Considering it had gone through his eye, it was just a logical deduction on her part that it passed through his temporal lobe, but it's possible it could have just grazed as I theorized considering the angle.

And yes, brain damage untreated is usually fatal.

I don't know why you think I said it was the tears. The only tears he ever consumed were from his sister and I did say it was the princess' blood they carried that was the key.

In any case, this was a great start for the new season for me, but I'm left wondering where we're gonna go from here. It's only the first episode and our heroes have already ventured into space on an unknown mission, but presumably to fight Saazbaum. I can't imagine this lasting more than a couple of episodes. Do they plan on inserting flashbacks to show what happened during the 19 months?

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by mangakid95

Little fun fact I picked up from a comment in another website:

Inaho is called Orange, but that's last season's news. Now, he's got a mechanical eye. You know what that means don't you?

The second coming of Jeremiah. lol It'll be even more hilarious if he can actually use some kind of power through the mechanical eye. XD

Inaho secret weapon > he can used his eye to deactivate Aldonah power .

Now all who said Inago poster was just sample and he is actually dead > better luck next time (try again with Slaine death).

And it look like drinking royal blood will give you Aldonah power....

[leelee85]

Originally Posted by Death Usagi

What's funny is how the fake princess has been caught in the act so fast because of the "Water reflection theory" XD;;

And Inaho taught Asseylum about it, so since the fake said the wrong thing, obviously she would get caught as a fake so easily.

Also the fact they already know about the disguise tactic with Aldnoah, so yeah...

fake princess BUSTED ALREADY SO FAST >_>

Whoever Thought that having another princess masscrarade as Asseylum Corpsing:
SEND FOR THE MAN!

[Sheba]

Inaho became Adam Jensen. The big question is... Did he ask for this?

[Raviel]

Originally Posted by Death Usagi

What's funny is how the fake princess has been caught in the act so fast because of the "Water reflection theory" XD;;

And Inaho taught Asseylum about it, so since the fake said the wrong thing, obviously she would get caught as a fake so easily.

Also the fact they already know about the disguise tactic with Aldnoah, so yeah...

fake princess BUSTED ALREADY SO FAST >_>

I doubt it would matter if she was fake or not, a lot of the remaining Oribital Knights look like they've thrown their lot in with Saazbaum already (if they weren't on his side to begin with).

[Haak]

Wow, Inaho's Big Damn Heroes entrance was cheesier than the double cheese sandwich I had for lunch.

[Elazul]

I don't give a damn about those unbelievable plot devices anymore, both Inaho and the Princess survived and I'm glad for that. Now I just want to see Inaho kicking some martians and saving the Princess in the end.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Holy shit, this circle jerk on Slaine hate is really annoying.

Did he not save the princess in that episode? He save Count Saazbaum, why? So that he can save his precious princess.

Does anyone actually think maybe he is doing this do bring down the royal family and whole Martian monarch system? Maybe he realizes how corrupt and problematic the Martian system is after seeing how his "precious princess" almost died. So maybe he wants to change that system cause to protect his "precious princess".

I keep mentioning princess is because the only the Slane give a damn about is the princess, nothing more nothing less. He doesn't have any ambition, all he care about is her. He was tortured for hours just to be sure that she will be save and risked his life to find her.

So maybe instead of this irrational hate, can we get some logic in here?

[azurestratos]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Umm, any injury to the brain can be very dangerous, it's not like skin where you graze it and it's a flesh wound. Even a concussion can be pretty dangerous if not monitored. It's a very serious injury. And you can't "graze" the brain if the bullet went through the eye and through the temporal lobe like they said. They even acknowledged that if they didn't get him into surgery in the next few minutes, there was no hope for him. He was on the edge of death.

As for the time with Rayet, it was after she had been revived by Inaho, and Rayet was shooting at her. Look back to that. Also, tears are tears....

It was definitely the blood that was the activator, not the tears.

Not quite. Though its a widely held rule of thumb that any damage to the brain is serious, its not so if treated within the time frame.


Main factors in brain damage are:
-blood supply, and if cut, for how long
-hematoma, compression, infection
-direct damage vs hypoxic damage
-area of brain, (rule of thumb, as long its not concerned with autonomic nervous system, it should be more or less good)
-coexisting health conditions

In this case its mostly direct damage, infection and area of brain. With my limited medical knowledge I'd say he'd be fine, but need occupational therapy.

If you need me elaborate some points I'd be more than happy to. Medicine is one of my better versed subjects.

[leelee85]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

Holy shit, this circle jerk on Slaine hate is really annoying.

Did he not save the princess in that episode? He save Count Saazbaum, why? So that he can save his precious princess.

Does anyone actually think maybe he is doing this do bring down the royal family and whole Martian monarch system? Maybe he realizes how corrupt and problematic the Martian system is after seeing how his "precious princess" almost died. So maybe he wants to change that system cause to protect his "precious princess".

I keep mentioning princess is because the only the Slane give a damn about is the princess, nothing more nothing less. He doesn't have any ambition, all he care about is her. He was tortured for hours just to be sure that she will be save and risked his life to find her.

So maybe instead of this irrational hate, can we get some logic in here?

That what I am say when i said that Slaine Is returning the favor in save her life after she saved his year prior to the event of the first series

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by bakato

It depends on the extent of the damage. There are cases where brain damage isn't completely fatal and only results in impairments that can be compensated for with rehabilitation. There's no way Yuki could've known where the bullet went for sure. Considering it had gone through his eye, it was just a logical deduction on her part that it passed through his temporal lobe, but it's possible it could have just grazed as I theorized considering the angle.

And yes, brain damage untreated is usually fatal.

I don't know why you think I said it was the tears. The only tears he ever consumed were from his sister and I did say it was the princess' blood they carried that was the key.

In any case, this was a great start for the new season for me, but I'm left wondering where we're gonna go from here. It's only the first episode and our heroes have already ventured into space on an unknown mission, but presumably to fight Saazbaum. I can't imagine this lasting more than a couple of episodes. Do they plan on inserting flashbacks to show what happened during the 19 months?

I'm simply saying that any damage to his brain is dangerous, so saying something like "it grazed it" means nothing. Bleeding in the brain can be just as fatal as destruction of brain tissue. Also, since this show is reliant on other characters to inform us about the plot, we have to take Yuki's word that she can triangulate where the bullet went.

Sure brain damage may not always be fatal, but they way they kind of wiped it all away with him only having mechanical eye and being up and about was just unbelievable to me, especially with Asseylum being laid up like she is.

As for what they are going to do next, I think we'll begin to see Slaine's plan unfold (the guy has some kind of plan going on, I'm pretty sure of it). We'll see how the Terrans do in space, though even I'm pretty surprised that the world survived for a year and a half against the Martians despite the fact that they were pushed to the point of near extinction but a couple of months after the assassination attack.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

The human body is complicated and sometimes unpredictable. People have survived being shot to the head (with damage to the brain) or died of what should have been minor wounds (which bullet wounds to the chest aren't). As for the lack of sequels in Inaho... Well, cyborg.

Slaine's as unsympathetic as ever. He'd be less of a traitor if he finished Asseylum, then had her corpse stuffed and turned into his sex doll.

I can understand that, I still feel like that the execution was lacking in how they wrote it an wanted to have Inaho suffer no repercussions from the shot other than the loss of an eye.

As for Slaine, I'm going to wait a while to pass judgment. I can't help but think that there is more going on here than meets the eye. It's the same reason why I knew when I kept seeing Asseylum in the PVs and the only thing she was doing was talking on a mike that I thought she was a fake.

[MartianMage]

So confirmed Inaho alive and Slaine now creepy bad guy

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

Did he not save the princess in that episode? He save Count Saazbaum, why? So that he can save his precious princess.

I'll try to make this short and simple. He KIDNAPPED the princess because of his jealousy, and made a deal with the man responsible for almost killing his precious princess. How logical is that?

Besides, if he left her, for all intents and purposes she should have been dead already, she would have been saved the same way Inaho was and probably not sitting in a tank as doll to lust over.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by azurestratos

Not quite. Though its a widely held rule of thumb that any damage to the brain is serious, its not so if treated within the time frame.


Main factors in brain damage are:
-blood supply, and if cut, for how long
-hematoma, compression, infection
-direct damage vs hypoxic damage
-area of brain, (rule of thumb, as long its not concerned with autonomic nervous system, it should be more or less good)
-coexisting health conditions

In this case its mostly direct damage, infection and area of brain. With my limited medical knowledge I'd say he'd be fine, but need occupational therapy.

If you need me elaborate some points I'd be more than happy to. Medicine is one of my better versed subjects.

I completely agree. I was just saying that the injury he suffered wasn't some flesh wound. It was a very serious injury that he could have died from, that they worked some magical plot convenience powers in order to get him into surgery in time. I just felt that the way they presented it with him just coming in as if nothing happen was just off to me, especially while the princess seems to be worse off.

I'm interested in medicine as well. I'm a biochemist by profession, but I'm beginning to look more towards the medical as well. As much as I was unimpressed by this premiere, I actually love to talk about the medical parameters of his injury and what could have happened.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I'll try to make this short and simple. He KIDNAPPED the princess because of his jealousy, and made a deal with the man responsible for almost killing his precious princess. How logical is that?

Besides, if he left her, for all intents and purposes she should have been dead already, she would have been saved the same way Inaho was and probably not sitting in a tank as doll to lust over.

No, he didn't. He took her cause she got shot. He didn't know the relationship between Inaho and princess, he doesn't even know if they knew each other.

Yeah, he made a deal with the man that almost killed her because that was the only or rather the best option to save her.

[Dauerlutscher]

Yeah, Inaho is alive and as long he can rescue Asseylum and kick Slaines and the Martians ass, I will be more than happy.

[Loremaster]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about how those two survived? And more concerned by the fact Slaine was shown as a good shot, during that brief space battle? Yet this is the same guy who couldn't kill two bloody people, one at reasonable range and one who couldn't get any closer without giving you a kiss on the lips.

God dammit Slaine, your shooting skills have a mind on its own.

[lubczyk]

So uh, has it been explained yet why the Martians don't just bombard the Earthlings from space instead of going down one by one to be beaten in close quarters mecha combat? I'm pretty sure the Martians used long range missiles, jamming and orbital meteor bombing in the first season. The lack of combined arms is really perplexing to me. What strongholds do the UFE have anyway with Beijing, Tokyo, North and South America along with Russia having fallen? None of this is making sense to me.