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View Poll Results: Kanon - 2006 - Episode 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 133 | 70.37% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 43 | 22.75% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 5.29% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 1.06% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.53% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2007-01-05, 16:48 | Link #61 | |
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well, it was in the SS-E translation : you lose shiritori game if you cannot say any word within a certain time limit, OR you have said a word wich ends with "n" (because it's simply impossible to find a word like this so...) yuuichi was first caught offguard because of the san, then stunned that mai tried to sound "ok" by removing the "-san" from "kirin", while she was still losing *edit : *slaps his own head* hu i see : you are talking about sayuri's comment how it is hard to play with mai, because she add the san, which would be from a hidden and cunning intent to win? *needs more reading comprehension...* double mistake in only 1 post, GAH...
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2007-01-05, 17:04 | Link #64 |
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flat excuses m(_ _)m, i was only paying attention at the first note... (maybe a suggestion for a brighter font for the translation note? joke aside, my mistake indeed ~~)
gotta edit right away XD you are talking about her reasoning when she was young with her brother (being strict), her talking with the third person, or something else?
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2007-01-05, 17:06 | Link #65 | |
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So we try for the middle compromise. At least we're then being hit by BOTH sides >_<; j/k |
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2007-01-05, 17:18 | Link #66 | |
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Which language might Pachelbel have used for originally naming his work, given he lived in the 17th century and was a Christian church organist? Last edited by Devil Doll; 2007-01-05 at 17:52. |
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2007-01-05, 17:23 | Link #67 |
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I love when everyone is yelling and they're really sort of saying the same thing Gotta love the C/K-elts (or rather the Romans and their damned root language) for messing with the damned "C" sound
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2007-01-05, 17:55 | Link #68 | |
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2007-01-05, 18:02 | Link #69 | |
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...since as far as I'm concerned this is pretty much always "I love you". AFAIK It's also most often used by guys - it can be considered a bit blunt (but that fits with Mai's personality). I've only seen Kanon 2006, but it seems reasonable to me that Mai is saying "I love Sayuri. I really do. That's why..." or some such alternative ("I love Sayuri. Because I love her..."). I don't see this as being "love" in some kind of yuri way, but Mai expressing her "tough love" (nobody says "tough like"). |
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2007-01-05, 18:04 | Link #70 |
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I gave it a 9 but not a 10, even tho I wish there are something like 9.5, or even 9.95.
It is excellent, the upper tier of excellent. My opinion may be biased by my love for Mai Kawasumi, but I felt that everything was near perfect, but what really stood out the most are Sayuri's past and Mai's breakdown scene. Is it the same person who said "Ni pah"? My love for Mai arc is going crescendo and I am actually sad to see it going to end on the next one. |
2007-01-05, 18:08 | Link #71 |
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@kari-no-sugata: Agreed... a lot of the discussion was actually meta-"suki" ... how in different anime the choice of words seems to be used inconsistently even allowing for unspoken context.
I also agree with your assessment of Mai's "agape" (greek for platonic "deep" love) versus the wishful thinking of some fan fiction ... but thats a never-ending debate with some and I'd rather not derail into it. My own confusion over "sayuri-san-no-koto" stemmed from it being late and me just flying with my kana dictionary rather than looking for the kanji and a basic brain fart since my own language teacher has used that phrase in class a few times.
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2007-01-05, 18:10 | Link #72 |
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yes it is. and also the same person who said "nano" and "fate-chan!!!"
sometimes, you are wondering if the seyuu really have a personal voice or something with such versatile tone and all
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2007-01-05, 18:41 | Link #73 | |
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About the suki/like/love. The biggest problem is that these are very ambigious words with many meanings. What a particular character means when they say these words is dependant on the context. Even then, it can be hard to decipher. |
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2007-01-05, 19:42 | Link #74 |
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That was good, but I wouldn't say that was outstanding, or among the best episodes of this series so far. This is less a criticism of KyoAni's execution and more a criticism of the Kanon story in general, but I've always found the Mai arc underwhelming compared to everyone else's. But the fact that they revealed Sayuri's background was certainly welcome and it really defined her character which, like Amano, was relegated to pretty much "plot-device" status in the Toei version. That's purely the advantage of having more time... they can flesh out these side characters properly.
I rewatched the first episode recently, and the difference in quality of animation between that and this was huge. As someone before mentioned, this is KyoAni's first experiment with a full season lenght series (Inuyasha doesn't count, since they didn't produce that, they merely helped with some of the animation) and I've always been slightly concerned that the animation quality wasn't going to remain consistent in the same way they managed to get away with in their shorter series. Sure, it's still excellent, but this isn't anywhere near their best work, visually. It is good to see that they can do drama (though they proved that comprehensively with the Makoto arc). Truth be told, I was expecting something much worse to happen to Sayuri, though. Plot-wise, this is progressing pretty much exactly the same way as the Toei version, except this time we actually know why the characters made the choices they did, rather than people just suddenly showing up at the wrong place and the wrong time without reason.
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2007-01-05, 20:43 | Link #75 | |
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If Yuuichi had interpreted that "suki" the way the majority of you did, how would his face look at that moment?
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2007-01-05, 21:48 | Link #79 |
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Three highlights for me.
1) Nayuki waking up at the mere mention of her mom's jam. Man, if the jam can fully awake Nayuki when a bajillion clocks+Yuuichi won't, then the jam must be truly terrible indeed. LOL 2) Sayuri's story. I was in near tears, but not quite. That said, it was still good, though it would be so much better if they showed her to be much meaner in order to lets say, I don't know, maybe for example hint at that her meanness was the cause of her brother's death? It would make for a much better tear-jerker scene, however cliched it might be (god knows how many shows/dramas I've seen using that device), though I don't know if that's actually what transpired in the game so they might have avoided that just to stay true with the source. 3) Mai's berserk mode. Sure it ain't Oyashiro-mode, but I guess that's the closest thing I'll get to in Kanon. XD
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