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Originally Posted by magnuskn
No, no, no, no, NO. Dude. NO. He knows full and well that he is at the very least mind-controlling entire planetary populations into slavery. He is happy and willing to do it to the rest of the galaxy if given a chance. If he is being manipulated, it is because he is letting himself be manipulated. HE is the KING. He could say at any time that he won't do it anymore, put Roid out of a job, assume direct control. You can't just handwave his complicity away. Roid isn't even doing a good job at manipulating Heinz, Heinz himself is willing to go through with all this even to his own detriment. You can call it misplaced idealism or maybe adherence to duty... but it still is his own decision.
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Eeh, all that Heinz knows is that he has to sing or else people will
die. There has been a stressed emphasis that Heinz thinks he has no choice to do this to avoid deaths which is what he doesn't want to do. He even lists his reasons because he wants the war to end. He doesn't know any better because he's a goddamn
child. Secondly, Roid
did manipulate him. He came around with this 'plan' after his father died and told him it was his "father's will." To a little boy who was starved for validation and affection and didn't have time to mourn his family and was handed over a duty that wasn't ready for, he had to take over that cause. Furthermore, there's never been show a time Heinz knows what happens to people when he sings, only that stops them fighting, yes mind control, but he has never seen it as
horrific because he is kept in the dark (all your conclusions about the consequences of it would fly over his head, because a) he doesn't even know what happened. b) his brain isn't developed to perform this operation). He's been secluded singing himself to death in that "wind" sanctuary or bedridden. He has not even any idea who Walkure were, that's why he even asked about "who was that woman." If he had seen footage of the planets, any footage, he would have recognized her.
Thirdly, from his neurological development, he's not responsible for his actions. Hell, at that age he shouldn't even be capable of abstract thinking for crying aloud. So you're ridiculous to take into account his input as you'll be ridiculous to take into account the actions of a 9-10 years old who is given a rifle or bomb and tell him to go and die in a blaze of glory for his religion and people. Heinz is being used as a weapon, he's no better than a child soldier. He has no real power, if he did, do you think Roid could dismiss his doctor so easily and control the army as he does?
Keith is loyal to him, so do the people but the army and the staff are controlled by
Roid. Think of it as a regent of a child king, as the Holy Knight.
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You are being patently ridiculous if you think that Heinz doesn't know that he is mind-controlling people. Where is your evidence?
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Of course he "knows" it on paper, but dude, do you think a nine-ten years old knows what 'mind crontrol' is and if it's serious or it's moral implications you're being ridiculous. Go and research actual child's brains development before you try to pass him as an adult.
To put it frankly, the age zone they chose for Heinz is perfect, because it's the same age were most child soldiers are recruited for a reason (9-11 years), the 'brainwashing' age. The child of this age is generally vulnerable to external influences, specially outside their family and very prone to peer pressure, putting the 'group' he identifies needs over his, plus the beginning to shape the moral character at the end (around 11 years, not earlier). The opinions and any logical operations they perform depend exclusively on the concrete contact they have with the world. Now if he were older, I would agree with you, but he's being portrayed as a
child who is a victim of all this
too. That's why Walkure wants to reach out with their voices.
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I assume you are talking about movie!Sheryl, because nothing you said applies to TV Sheryl. Yes, that Sheryl should have and has paid for that. She was imprisoned, if you care to remember and sentenced. She was freed later on and Leon was a bad guy, etc., etc. But, yes, I believe she did wrong in supporting the Galaxy espionage job.
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No, TV Series also had this. Movie Sheryl only knew about it. However, Galaxy infiltrated Frontier and provoked the Vajra attack on Frontier using Sheryl as cover. She wasn't in the known of things, however Grace was able to spy and put everyone's in danger because she was her manager during her tour. Why do you think they attacked the day of her concert and not before? Because Grace.
Are you going to blame Sheryl for this? Because she was used as a
tool by Grace? There's little difference to me. Sheryl had good intentions to ask Alto to save Galaxy when they chatted too, episodes later, but well, you know how that turned out? Or how she pleads in tv. She thinks is for a good cause, not knowing any better. Heinz isn't even aware of the ramifications of his actions, he only thinks it'll be the best way to avoid bloodshed because
Roid convinced him it's for the best. There's nobody around him to tell him it's
not (hell, Keith disagrees but he never opens his mouth which would have ended this long time ago). I do think he should step down from power, he's not ready to be a ruler, that or have Keith become his regent after he finally starts growing up about his distate for the throne. I guess he desperately needs a Sheryl like Alto did to make him get over his daddy issues.
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Either way, this is the dullest "galactic war" I've watched. It just seems that war announcement was only made to make Cassim and others turn against Roid's plan because they haven't done anything since it was announced. 
)... there's a plot brewing there.
