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Perfect 10 | 57 | 53.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 33.64% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 7.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 4.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.93% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-07, 23:21 | Link #62 |
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Just a minor nitpick.. While Akane's character is that she represents the positive side of this system in comparison to the rest of the enforcers who represent the negative, the strength of her character still is that she never closed her mind. She is a self-sufficient human being in more than one way who is willing to go against the conventional wisdom if she feels something is amiss here. Recall why she decided to shoot Kougami with the dominator in the first episode. She is someone who is assessing situation based on its merit rather than going along with the flow. She is awesome!
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2013-02-07, 23:23 | Link #64 |
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Well, it's understandable that some people would disklike this episode as nothing was truly revealed but was only teased. Still, we might have to wait until next episode before judging whether this episode is valuable or not. If they can somehow use this as further build-up, then it should be fine.
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2013-02-07, 23:30 | Link #65 |
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Actually I think two things are significant about this episode
1) As I already said Akane did not shoot Makishima and this is what the section chief actually wanted to happen hence why Gino ordered them to capture not to kill. 2) We didn't actually see Kagari physically die? What happened to him is just as much a mystery as the secrets of the sybil system. In fact I am wondering if his ultimate fate will be tied into that secret.
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2013-02-07, 23:38 | Link #66 | |
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About Akane - My view on her is that, going by D&D moral alignments, she's very clearly "Lawful Good". She prefers a society with plenty of rules, order, structure, legal expectations. But still, she does have her own personal moral standards and codes. It's interesting how she's yet to kill a character, even as she wields a Dominator. It's almost as if Gen is purposely leaving her "untainted" for some special reason... I think that Akane's "lawful" predispositions will increasingly conflict with her "good" moral standards and codes. Eventually, she will choose one over the other. I think she will choose the latter.
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2013-02-07, 23:38 | Link #67 | |
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2013-02-07, 23:49 | Link #68 | ||
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I'd say chances are good he'll still have a part to play in the future though. I won't be holding my breath for it, but it's not like Gen to give major characters sendoffs as devoid of character development and closure as that. Quote:
But who knows, it is fiction and if we don't see a dead body next episode then there will always be the possibility he might still come back in some way. |
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2013-02-07, 23:54 | Link #69 | |
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If nothing else, I think we'll see Kougami interrogate him in prison, or something like that.
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2013-02-07, 23:55 | Link #70 |
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Yes! Absolutely. That's what I think also, and the OP provides the visual needed to reach to that only conclusion. Dominator isn't going to kill Makishima. That's what she is holding. Kougami is the guy with the gun. If he takes the shot, the Dominator should render Kougami as someone who should be disposed off. Then the choice to press the trigger or not left up to Akane. Will she press the trigger?
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2013-02-07, 23:56 | Link #71 | |
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I would also be surprised if that was it for Makishima.
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2013-02-08, 00:09 | Link #72 | |
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After all, the Bureau Chief considered telling an Inspector like Ginoza about Touma Kouzaburou (one of Makishima's predecessors, bearing the same condition) an exception to what would normally be classified information. And then she went to be real creepy about Touma's fate, stating he's been officially declared missing and that's all that needs to be said. So yeah, things aren't looking up for Makishima. Well, maybe he'll once again emulate the Joker by turning out to be real good at getting out of jail. |
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2013-02-08, 02:05 | Link #73 |
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Well, I must eat my hat for not believing the plot would end up being about taking down the system.
I wonder if in the end Makishima be promoted to main character status to help bring the system down (and maybe escape all consequences and possibly becoming the sole survivor)? I actually found it a little disappointing Kagari wasn't given enough screen time for me to really care about his death (ironically, I actually cared a little bit more about Akane's friend's death over this guy). Overall, I still enjoyed this episode, despite above complaint and a lot more "derpy" looking faces (I guess quality control is dropping now), due to the suspense and the Chief plot twist. Sibyl/Chief crash landed some centuries ago and needs to power her spaceship with the power (brains?) of criminally asymptomatic people. She just wants to go hooooooooomeeeee . |
2013-02-08, 02:43 | Link #74 |
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As far as people hoping that Kagari made it through the episode, need I remind you that Yayoi had a backstory episode that was entirely set in the past? With this precedent, the chances of him surviving are close to zero.
I was feeling a bit disappointed with the recent plot in Psycho Pass, but this episode kind of won me over again. All of those anti-climactic surprises were just so fun. When Makishima got OHKO'd by Tusnemori with the helmet, I was literally shocked that he let it happen. Yet at the same time, I wasn't even mad. As far as the downstairs action, I was surprised by the vague twist, but I'm not surprised that Kagari died. On the note of the Sybil system, is it a machine controller, or perhaps it doesn't actually do what people think it does? Only time will tell... My favorite part of this episode: DAT SUPLEX. All of the action scenes were really, really good. In fact, I'm going to watch them a couple times over because of how clean and how well-done they were. Especially the "camera" work for those scenes. We actually got to watch the combat, instead of some abstract camera movement and blurs of limbs flying everywhere supposedly hitting things which is something I've seen far too many times. Extra kudos for having good fight choreography, since I recognized some of the moves that were used (mostly by Ko).
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I should mention here that having humans or something like them process information is what would make most sense even for a sort of hard sci-fi story. "Bionic eye" technology is already a reality, so the dominator is basically a gun with a video camera or laser technology, assisted with human brain power that vets out false positives and makes judgments in hard-to-call situations. Which is also a possible explanation why people like Makishima are desireable. The very design of such a system is basically a testament that no matter what technology people come up with, they will never be able to break down and quantify a human being. They will always need people to do that, and a machine is just a machine that will be dependant on human beings. It is quite possible that police chief, in all her android glory, can't function without them. So to capture criminally asymptomatic people is first and foremost an existential issue for her. The system created a problem for itself by dumbing down the population, or perhaps the population itself was already dumbed down, animal-like, making it much easier for machines to read their patterns of thought and predict behavior. In my opinion, that's also the reason why Sibyl was taken up by society. Rather be carefree, left alone in their own cozy little worlds, as long as they have enough to eat. Quote:
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2013-02-08, 06:25 | Link #77 |
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My theory is that the Sibyl System is made of on array of human brains. That's why it can process such a massive amount of data so quickly. But I don't think that there are living humans who assess the crime coefficient. It must be a true scientific measurement, although imperfect.
Chief Kasei is one of Sibyl's creators or just a high-class officer who has admin privileges to override Sibyl's threat judgment. I think she is a full-body cyborg like the old man hunter. I will be disappointed if she turns out to be merely a robotic avatar of Sibyl because then Sibyl becomes a more humane version of Skynet.
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2013-02-08, 06:27 | Link #78 |
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I'm wondering if the Sibyl system is perhaps the original Chief herself, having put herself at the heart of the system, and the RoboChief is just her physical avatar in the real world.
But for all I know it could just be a huge ever-growing pulsating brain that rules from the centre of the Sibyl System. Maybe we'll never find out as keeping it a mystery could be more interesting? I suspect what happens to Mikishima might be the catalyst for the finale. By not killing him there and then, Akane showed, I think, that her desire for revenge was outweighed by her belief in due process. She wants Mikishima to stand trial for his crimes, and when he's just disappeared, that coupled with the disappearance of Kagari may lead them to investigate the system itself. |
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It'll be interesting to see how Makishima fairs in wording off against leveled up Akane. He certainly had fun with his confrontation with Kougami, but they didn't exactly have a philosophical/intellectual argument/discussion. Will Akane next episode be able to do that better? *Some people are calling hax on that, but I'm willing to let it slide. Why? Because Makishima's fighting ability, just like his ability to amass armies of murderers, is obviously magically based. I mean, Makishima spends all his free time calmly reading old paperbacks and waxing philosophically. Kougami spends all his free time practicing martial arts and sparring. Makishima winning in a martial arts fight against Kougami required him using up all his plot magic mojo, which left him vulnerable to Akane bashing him on the head
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