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SeijiSensei · 2015-10-01, 22:12

I expect Carson to place among the top three in Iowa. He's likely to be the Rick Santorum of 2016.

TheCatWalk · 2015-10-07, 05:25

I'm pretty much fine with anyone if they cut the tpp, tisa and ttip deals.

So I pretty much am for sen-b.sanders.

Would have been happier if Hillary made a clear stance in this TPP matter.

The polls might go up and down depending on how each party handles it but the problem is, the deal is still a secret.

And why daquq do is TRUMP leading the 2016 republican primaries??????

He's an entertainer not a politician.

justinstrife · 2015-10-07, 11:45

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Originally Posted by TheCatWalk

I'm pretty much fine with anyone if they cut the tpp, tisa and ttip deals.

So I pretty much am for sen-b.sanders.

Would have been happier if Hillary made a clear stance in this TPP matter.

The polls might go up and down depending on how each party handles it but the problem is, the deal is still a secret.

And why daquq do is TRUMP leading the 2016 republican primaries??????

He's an entertainer not a politician.

That is exactly why he and Carson are #1 and #2 for Republicans. We're sick and tired of Politicians.

Ithekro · 2015-10-07, 11:56

Name recognition is a big thing in popularity and politics. Everyone knows Trump.

Recall the Recall election in California last decade and that Arnold won easily and was reelected. The Govenator was what we wanted and what we got.

Though to tell the truth, if he hadn't stepped into the race, I would have voted for Gallagher. If the state was going to be a laughing stock of the country, might as well have a comedian running the place.

Urzu 7 · 2015-10-07, 15:01

We are all sick of politicians, but ffs people, don't support Trump. Give me another shitty politician over that shitty Donald Trump guy any day.

IceHism · 2015-10-07, 18:19

Trump is on the liberal side of Republican so he's pretty much better than most of their candidates already.

But there isn't really much the president can do in this time I feel. With all the gerrymandering, any anti-establishment president will have a hard time doing much things. And I'm pretty sick of the establishment.

justinstrife · 2015-10-07, 18:53

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Originally Posted by Urzu 7

We are all sick of politicians, but ffs people, don't support Trump. Give me another shitty politician over that shitty Donald Trump guy any day.

I'd take him over what we have now, Hillary, or Sanders.

But my preferences are Ted Cruz and Ben Carson.

Urzu 7 · 2015-10-08, 12:48

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Originally Posted by justinstrife

I'd take him over what we have now, Hillary, or Sanders.

But my preferences are Ted Cruz and Ben Carson.

I just don't think Trump is cut out to be a president. I think he is running more for his ego and stature. I don't think he realizes what would be demanded of him to be a leader of this country, and I really don't think he can deliver on what it takes, either.

Xellos-_^ · 2015-10-08, 12:55

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Originally Posted by justinstrife

I'd take him over what we have now, Hillary, or Sanders.

But my preferences are Ted Cruz and Ben Carson.

Ted Cruz comes off as a used car salesman (and i want to see his birth certificate?)
Ben Carson believes the earth 6000 years old. Either he is lying (then he is just pandering) or really believes it which makes him a religious zealot.

justinstrife · 2015-10-08, 15:56

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Ted Cruz comes off as a used car salesman (and i want to see his birth certificate?)
Ben Carson believes the earth 6000 years old. Either he is lying (then he is just pandering) or really believes it which makes him a religious zealot.

Do you have a link to him saying that?

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-...creation-world

Saturday · 2015-10-08, 21:36

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I just don't think Trump is cut out to be a president. I think he is running more for his ego and stature. I don't think he realizes what would be demanded of him to be a leader of this country, and I really don't think he can deliver on what it takes, either.

I think so too... Honestly, even Trump probably has a better handle on the economic side of things than most candidates, he's also horrifically racist and sexist, and basically everyone knows it. I think everyone's already heard about his whole "let's-build-a-wall" thing, and I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't vote for him after that.

He probably won't win.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/04/politi...xico-wall-pay/

Of course, his hair is pretty glorious. So there's that.

Xellos-_^ · 2015-10-09, 14:05

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Originally Posted by justinstrife

Do you have a link to him saying that?

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-...creation-world

my mistake, he believed the world was created in 6days not the world is six thousand yrs old.

That is still a asinine position.

IceHism · 2015-10-09, 14:10

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I think so too... Honestly, even Trump probably has a better handle on the economic side of things than most candidates, he's also horrifically racist and sexist, and basically everyone knows it. I think everyone's already heard about his whole "let's-build-a-wall" thing, and I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't vote for him after that.

He probably won't win.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/04/politi...xico-wall-pay/

Of course, his hair is pretty glorious. So there's that.

You can't win the Republican primary without shouting exaggerated statements that aren't feasible. Pretty sure he will be more moderate after he wins the nomination. You can't win the national with his talk up to now.

risingstar3110 · 2015-10-10, 02:03

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You can't win the Republican primary without shouting exaggerated statements that aren't feasible. Pretty sure he will be more moderate after he wins the nomination. You can't win the national with his talk up to now.

Agree

The way I see it, he has been basically saying everything that his audiences want to hear. So once he won the nomination, he may flip flop on some key points to gain back general audiences.

Felt like if he actually become president, he will be a bit more on figure head style. Have people who know better than him making decisions for him, and only spend more time claiming the credits and blame the failure on others

On the positive side, US won't have a typical politician for president. Instead, you guys will have a typical asshole boss as your president.

justinstrife · 2015-10-10, 10:40

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my mistake, he believed the world was created in 6days not the world is six thousand yrs old.

That is still a asinine position.

6 days is not defined as in 6, 24 hour days. Not by most people who hold this belief in the Christian community. But hey, believe what you want. I dont particularly care too much.

Archon_Wing · 2015-10-13, 14:50

I really wish the GOP would have a platform beyond "Democrats are poopyheads. And Communist." Well they say socialist, but it's about 5 letters too long for them to understand the meaning, much less compare the difference of definition. Well, there's also the wording trick in order to return Americans to the Good Ol' Days where people treated each other like decent human beings, well as long as you were white, heterosexual, and born a male that believed in the correct God.

It's been 8 years. Around that time, I thought trolling smug liberals by calling them socialists was sorta fun, but it's really gotten old hat, and for it to be used as legitimate discourse is plain laughable.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2015-10-13, 19:21

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Originally Posted by IceHism

You can't win the Republican primary without shouting exaggerated statements that aren't feasible. Pretty sure he will be more moderate after he wins the nomination. You can't win the national with his talk up to now.

If anything, Trump said things to please the Far Right, but he was careful to only say things that HE CAN'T ACTUALLY DO. I believe that is his strategy, in that even though his words are extreme, the moderates are aware there is exactly zero chance of them happening in reality.

Trump doesn't need to flip-flop to the center after winning the primaries, because the Far Right statements were impossibilities to begin with. No one is remotely worried that Trump would actually generate a mass exodus of undocumented workers, or build a new Great Wall. Trump can say crazy things knowing it was never on the cards, and he still wins the Primary.

On the other hand if a candidate promote Far Right policies that are actually feasible to do, that would have caused moderates and independents to get scared.

risingstar3110 · 2015-10-13, 22:24

For the Democratic debate, Bernie was killing it on internet through. Both similar number on Time and CNN fb poll:

I would expected him to do well from populist view. But was surprised he came crushing

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**Solace** · 2015-10-13, 22:44

An interesting first debate, for sure. O'malley, Chafee, and Webb really should drop out though. Lessig never should have entered.

Xellos-_^ · 2015-10-14, 00:31

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Originally Posted by risingstar3110

For the Democratic debate, Bernie was killing it on internet through. Both similar number on Time and CNN fb poll:

I would expected him to do well from populist view. But was surprised he came crushing

it is easy to click a button online but how many of these people actually vote?

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Name recognition is a big thing in popularity and politics. Everyone knows Trump. Recall the Recall election in California last decade and that Arnold won easily and was reelected. The Govenator was what we wanted and what we got. Though to tell the truth, if he hadn't stepped into the race, I would have voted for Gallagher. If the state was going to be a laughing stock of the country, might as well have a comedian running the place. __________________

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IceHism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	Trump is on the liberal side of Republican so he's pretty much better than most of their candidates already. But there isn't really much the president can do in this time I feel. With all the gerrymandering, any anti-establishment president will have a hard time doing much things. And I'm pretty sick of the establishment.