2023-07-16, 18:57 | Link #61 | |
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Hitokiri Battousai was a patriot that only fough because there was a battle to fight not because he liked it. Really? Because years of anime/manga have teach me that main weakness of a mage (the type that requires incantations) is a boosted physical fighter. Nanao probably wouldn't lose a fight with most of the first years. Last edited by alex_drian; 2023-07-16 at 19:09. |
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Oliver is actually closer to someone like Toru Acrua than Ray or Yuuji. That just only discussing battle competent. His personality & dynamic with his crew are completely different thanks to the surprisingly level maturity he displays for someone his age. I also don't like Iceblade Sorcerer because it has all far typical elements magic academy I don't usual care (uneven gender cast, battle harem, most characters revolving around MC rather than having distinct personalities & problems of their own etc) versus Spellblades which actually takes its setting pretty seriously instead being just a excuse to overpower the MC at the expense of it. So I don't know why one would like Iceblade Sorcerer if they liked Spellblades, they are actually pretty different beyond being set in a school. Its saying you like Naruto if you liked Jujutsu Kaisen. Last edited by Applehell; 2023-07-17 at 02:19. |
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I don't really care about whether the series is or isn't a power fantasy or whether it is or isn't a harem if I think the characters are shit. Episode 2 was their time to shine but so far they're painfully uninspired to me. If you like them so be it but I just don't.The zany comedy in that reminds me more of the one Aristocrat isekai from last season, even though it wasn't a magical school series. |
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And the reason I bring up Michela is because she one of direct counters to what you said (which I also noted she not meek princess type either), but because you can't offer a real rebuttal to that and simply decide sidestep to continue your own narrative this just coming across as your arguing in bad faith. Like I have no problem with not liking the show, but... why just say that instead of misusing a term that makes no sense and worst makes you sound like a hypocrite? Its like none the shows you like aren't derivative of stuff that appeared several other works either. Furthermore you only list one particular series in claim to why Spellblades generic which irony works against it. Like no duh, Spellblades shares some similarities with HP which itself shares concepts with older fiction works. Its base inspiration and there is nothing wrong with that, there also clear differences between the two that makes Spellblades own thing. The fact draws more from that makes less like Japanese magic academies by default and other influences it take from are actually from works like FSN in terms of themes. You're comment about RPGs is even confusing since I am fanatic of genre and there no game like Spellblades unless literally just Hogwatts Legacy. Even my dislike of Iceblade isn't based on fact I've encountered works that featured those archetypes and designs but because of how it unitizes its characters terribly or incredibly common manner no twists. I enjoyed series like Iceblade like Chirality of the Failed Knight not because the characters in it were whole original but of how well executed they were and how their development branched out from their basic archetypes. Quote:
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One of the things worth noting about Spellblades when comes to the characters and story is that this type of series keeps things to its chest initially and then slowly unravel layers behind them.
Take Nanao for example. In episode 1 she is initially presented as a foreigner who is a rather awkward girl and speaks in archaic fashion. Nearly every one of interaction she has involves some kind of culture shock whether taking huge protons of food for herself, bathing in a public fountain and even something simple her surprisingly lack of magic usage incomparison to everyone else. Ep 2 then builds on this\ by revealing depth culture shock that isolates Nanao even from the friends goes even further than that after her duel with Oliver shows even her values about life & death are completely different to degree it can't be reconciled with her new life. For all claims about this called generic nobody seem predicted this twisted side to her being present at all. In fact from just these two episodes she been given quite a depth that shows she is just not just a "genki" airhead who wears a smile plastered on her face everyday no matter what, she actually has her own circumstances we know nothing about. Katie is also another example in how the show revealing there is more to its cast in just these two episodes. Athough she less extreme than Nanao, episode 2 shows her issue troll paraded around like a slave isn't just something she is just saying to be self-righteous or just because it is the right thing to do. Its because her upbringing gives her a personal stake in this and has shaped her values when comes to humans and non-humans long before she stepped into Kimberly. Her actions become much more understandable after she takes a bit about her past. The show is making a real effort laying a lot of the groundwork to start fleshing for out our cast (directly or indirectly) and established this isn't series that purely ruled by Oliver POV even if he's our window into it. There are people outside of him with their own troubles and reasons for being at academy and who they are at the moment. Each of these details paints full picture of kind of society these kids live in. This sort of thing really done LN who are looking to be more than power fantasies. |
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I dunno, the shows' presentation and execution is pretty solid so far (and it's rumored this will have 15 episodes), I feel like it's deliberately taking it's time and easing the audience into everything and I think it's doing a good job of that so far.
(Also, I actually liked Iceblade Sorcerer ).
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Yes, nothing wrong with having diverse tastes.
I already ordered the manga for Spellblades up to vol 6 from the recent Rightstuf sale (not bad at $7/vol). It was a daily megadeal but might come back on the last day of the birthday sales they're having, not sure when that exactly is. The anime pacing seems like it will cover the vast majority of the manga that's already out.
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Man, this is one troublesome school. Next time just give up on the book!
Also...pretty concerning that Nanao is that baffled on why someone wouldn't want to fight her to the death . We can talk about different cultures, but that really shouldn't be so baffling. You'd think someone that's killed a lot of people would know how death works. They die and chatting them up again becomes a bit more difficult going forward... Honestly a good second episode. I respect that Katie just wants to protect as many animals as she can. While some things are unavoidable, that she tries to avoid what is avoidable is fine by me.
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So HP and Spellblades only really share conceptually 1) a magical academy where students learn magic, some themes about slavery, small magical critters and a few passing character reassemblesness? Sounds comparisons being more forced than anything. Like ever other piece of media Spellblades has clear inspirations, but its just that, inspirations. It not a rip or clone, just on take same concept. Just as FSN is from Battle Royale. Quote:
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It's probably a bit more complicated than that if she's killed a lot of people, a different kind of rush.
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Look at point you're are arguing with me in bad faith because it is obvious you don't like being wrong. A large amount of what your saying is just BS that barely consistent and incoherent at worst. I've tried to engage with you in earnest but if you just keep dismissing what is clearly apparent no matter what, I'm just going spare the rest of thread anymore clutter with this exhaustive discussion. |
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The parental vibe is pretty common in RPGs too... and fiction in general. I don't know what to tell you but I just don't see the uniqueness that you seem to. |
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A Scavenger who desecrates corpses versus a Succubus who harvests men's seed so she can birth monsters from her belly (and get turned on by it in the process)...well, luckily they hate each other, which gives the gang an opportunity to get away while they fight. Or would have, if they didn't still seem determined to keep them there .
Nanao has arrived! I guess she followed the stench of death and arrived just in time to throw herself into the fray. Not that Oliver is going to let her go in alone . Oh hey, Satoshi Hino! He's the student body president Alvin! And he and his buddy Carlos are there to actually save the day and clamp down on these renegade Senpai's. It's at least nice to know some senior students are actually looking out for their kouhai . So Nanao has been battling all her life and seeking a worthy opponent who she can truly face against as an equal and achieve her style of fighting's sense of "happiness" in a true and fair duel to the death. Having failed to find that back home, even to the point of almost being killed because the guy she was hoping to fight fell in one slash from her blade, she was saved by Chela's dad (Toshihiko Seki!) who brought her to the school so she could live up to her potential . To Nanao, crossing blades with Oliver and finding someone who can actually hold their own against her is the equivalent of falling in love with them, and the fact that he wouldn't carry out the duel to it's finish means he basically rejected her at least as far as her culture is concerned. Yet all the same...you can't just go around in life trying to meet and get along with people just so you can kill them in a duel to the death, and Nanao doesn't need to be living like she's got a death wish. Not when she's found Oliver, her friends, and people who care about her and want her to live. Plus she'll obviously need them to help get through school ! Nanao is getting up close and personal with Oliver! Intimately so! And he doesn't mind it! And Katie's a little jealous! Meanwhile Guy and Pete are enjoying the heck out of it . So the titular Spellblades are one-hit kill moves? And there's only six known Spellblades even though there's a seventh in the title? So has someone achieved or will achieve the seventh Spellblade? Oliver looked kind of weird when they were talking about it . This Andrews guy just will not shut up and leave well enough alone, he's not worth anyone's time, least of all Oliver who can't just throw a fight and be done with it because of Nanao and how much she esteems him now. Of course he has plenty of insecurity against Chela as it is from their time as childhood friends . I shouldn't be surprised Katie is trying to save the troll from the first episode even if it puts her squarely in the sights of Darius who is pretty harsh and uncompromising, even to the point of hurting a student if they get in his way. Not to mention insulting Katie's parents and calling her a monkey. I don't like this dude . At least cooler heads prevail and Luthor and the 4th year girl Vera manage to ward Darius off and keep the Troll alive until they figure out what happened. Monster Civil Rights for the win! And Katie seems to have made a likeminded friend in Vera ! Andrews thinks he can take on Nanao and Oliver? Together? Does he have a death wish ?
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Hm, it seems the writers are cramming a bit too much into one episode. Tons of characters introduced, conflicts popping up everywhere and already some resolution to Nanao's problems (at least temporarily, I presume). I hope this doesn't fall under the curse of the "way too rushed adaptation" we had with the last season of Magical Index. It would help if the show gave the characters and setting some time to breathe.
Is this a one or two cours show? Seems that we already have enough problems and characters to fill out an entire cour from what happened here.
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