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View Poll Results: Nekomonogatari Black Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 31 | 35.23% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 28 | 31.82% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 19.32% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 6.82% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.27% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.14% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 2.27% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.14% | |
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2013-01-02, 10:29 | Link #61 |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Age: 37
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The underwear color conversation maybe went on for a bit too long, but it's not like it was completely irrelevant. On the superficial level it's obviously about Hanekawa's choice of underwear which... we'll being seeing a lot of for the next 2 episodes, but it's also about the nature of White and Black Hanekawa.
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2013-01-02, 10:32 | Link #62 | |
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Sweden
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2013-01-02, 11:02 | Link #63 |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Age: 37
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I dunno, personally I like the way Nisio writes entirely meaningless dialog which seamlessly transitions into entirely meaningful dialog. Waiting for the pay-off in the second half is half the fun. Personally this is why I didn't enjoy Nise very much. There was very little pay-off from the early conversations.
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2013-01-02, 11:28 | Link #64 |
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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I freely admit that this is one of those franchises I watch for all the sexy poses and when I just need something to throw on in the background before I go to sleep. The dialogue is just wretched in all but a few instances and there's rarely any substance to any of it. For me watching an episode of monogatari is and probably always will be like going to the scene replayer in eroge and just randomly picking scene after scene.
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2013-01-02, 11:44 | Link #65 | |
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2013-01-02, 13:28 | Link #70 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 32
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There is a difference between an author's intent though and how much an author succeeds at expressing that intent. I can see the point of Nekomonogatari, but the way they are going about in telling this story in the first episode is anything but good to me.
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2013-01-02, 14:26 | Link #72 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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The first part (Tsukihi) was the weakest part, although I wouldn't outright say it was bad. I actually kind of liked the dialogue itself, it was just the weird imouto-fanservice that turned me off (especially Karen). The rest of the OVA was enjoyable for me. Sometimes when I read people's opinions comparing the "sequel" animes with Bake, I can't help but think that Bake was hyped too much. Was is really that good? Yeah, it was better, I agree, but was it really that much better than Nise or Neko-Kuro? I can't make judgments based on the LNs (just reading Kizu now), but for the anime adaptions, while Nise felt way worse (content-wise) than Bake to me, Neko wasn't all that bad. I seriously think some people are ruining their own enjoyment of the series by putting Bake on a pedestal. Bake was pretty good, but that's it. |
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2013-01-02, 15:44 | Link #74 | ||||
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For example, in these days I have read To-love-ru, which is a classic of romantic comedy. There the protagonist, Yuuki Rito, falls onto other girls. Somehow he ends up with his head in their panties and his hands inside their bras. He has no ill intentions, just a bizarre case of clumsiness. Even when he has something serious to talk about he still falls onto some girl. It is similar to what happens here. Araragi wants to have a serious conversation, and harbors no ill intentions at all, yet he still crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed, readily yet somehow against his will. Quote:
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2013-01-02, 15:49 | Link #75 | |
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2013-01-02, 16:36 | Link #76 | |
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2013-01-02, 16:40 | Link #77 |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Within my mind
Age: 43
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Hanekawa's family issues is one of the few cases when I think "it would be so simple to solve if only Bakemonogatari didn't happen".
Or in other words, Araragi would have banished the cat forever if only he had started dating Hanekawa. Hanekawa needed a family she doesn't have. She hanged on to the flawed and abusive parents because that's all she had got. If she had ended up with Araragi, she would have gained a family legitimately. But in the end, it is not meant to be. Hitagi struck first.
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2013-01-02, 16:54 | Link #78 | |
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2013-01-02, 16:58 | Link #79 | |
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2013-01-02, 17:17 | Link #80 | |
Homo Ludens
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canada
Age: 34
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If nothing else, NekoWhite tries to do a lot more with Tsubasa's character and definitely succeeds in that regard. |
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