Mahouka LN - Prologue of Disturbance (Volumes 21 & 22) Discussion / Poll

[IceHism]

Wow that cover looks so good but I'm still always surprised by how different the artstyle is now compared to the early volumes.

[-Mahesvara_]

Can't wait for more jaws to drop in the next arc as the world finds out that T.Silver is Tatsuya. Its only a matter of time till he becomes a registered S-Class mage and joins the 13 apostles.

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

Can't wait for more jaws to drop in the next arc as the world finds out that T.Silver is Tatsuya. Its only a matter of time till he becomes a registered S-Class mage and joins the 13 apostles.

There is no advantage of Tatsuya being part of the 13 Apostles. Material Burst should not be publicizes. It would be a nightmare for him and the Yotsuba in a PR way.

[-Mahesvara_]

Originally Posted by fujin of shadows

There is no advantage of Tatsuya being part of the 13 Apostles. Material Burst should not be publicizes. It would be a nightmare for him and the Yotsuba in a PR way.

Doesn't mean it can't happen or won't happen. Plus the story has been moving in that direction, one after another, Tatsuya's major secrets have been coming out to the world,but how it happens is up for debate though. And I wouldn't say there would be no advantages if Tatsuya was to join the 13 apostles, having him globally acknowledged will make it actually harder for him to be targeted by foreign powers like the New Soviet Union. Also it can make the Yotsuba even more untouchable and pretty much would cement their place as the top power of the 10 Master Clans, which will spread there influence even further.

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

Doesn't mean it can't happen or won't happen. Plus the story has been moving in that direction, one after another, Tatsuya's major secrets have been coming out to the world,but how it happens is up for debate though. And I wouldn't say there would be no advantages if Tatsuya was to join the 13 apostles, having him globally acknowledged will make it actually harder for him to be targeted by foreign powers like the New Soviet Union. Also it can make the Yotsuba even more untouchable and pretty much would cement their place as the top power of the 10 Master Clans, which will spread there influence even further.

If Tatsuya would be a member of the 13 apostle, I think Tatsuya would elevate Baryon Lance as a Strategic-Type Magic, and that would be the spell that would be related to him.

[Aika Natsume]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

Doesn't mean it can't happen or won't happen. Plus the story has been moving in that direction, one after another, Tatsuya's major secrets have been coming out to the world,but how it happens is up for debate though. And I wouldn't say there would be no advantages if Tatsuya was to join the 13 apostles, having him globally acknowledged will make it actually harder for him to be targeted by foreign powers like the New Soviet Union. Also it can make the Yotsuba even more untouchable and pretty much would cement their place as the top power of the 10 Master Clans, which will spread there influence even further.

Agree with you. Though there might be some disadvantages for him being known as one, i think there will be more advantage like for one it will truely cement the Yotsuba family as strongest in Japan, plus it will remove Miyuki's shackles as well, guess cement won't be the right word by then, it would become absolute and the balance within the Ten Master Clans which Kudou and Saegusa has been maintaining would be put to trash.

And if the Tooyama Family and Juumonji Family goes against them, guess Material Burst and Coccytus will be the focus of one volume naming "the Untouchables 2.0" LOL

[bakato]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

Doesn't mean it can't happen or won't happen. Plus the story has been moving in that direction, one after another, Tatsuya's major secrets have been coming out to the world,but how it happens is up for debate though. And I wouldn't say there would be no advantages if Tatsuya was to join the 13 apostles, having him globally acknowledged will make it actually harder for him to be targeted by foreign powers like the New Soviet Union. Also it can make the Yotsuba even more untouchable and pretty much would cement their place as the top power of the 10 Master Clans, which will spread there influence even further.

The only major secret that went public was him being Yotsuba. If he's revealed as a strategic-class magician, foreign powers won't have to make a move. The public will call for his execution.

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by bakato

The only major secret that went public was him being Yotsuba. If he's revealed as a strategic-class magician, foreign powers won't have to make a move. The public will call for his execution.

The population would then be decrease significantly.

[MRD143]

The Japanese Magic Community and Public as well as the World Magic Community would freak and band together if it was revealed that Scorched Halloween was caused by a Magician that is loyal/under the control of the Yotsuba not the Japanese Govt. The amount of terror that the fact that the Untouchables now have the power to destroy anybody would be very bad.

[-Mahesvara_]

Originally Posted by bakato

The only major secret that went public was him being Yotsuba. If he's revealed as a strategic-class magician, foreign powers won't have to make a move. The public will call for his execution.

And his identity as Siver next volume. If they were to demand that, than they would have to demand the execution of every s-class mage, which isn't very plausible and wouldn't occur.

[-Mahesvara_]

Originally Posted by MRD143

The Japanese Magic Community and Public as well as the World Magic Community would freak and band together if it was revealed that Scorched Halloween was caused by a Magician that is loyal/under the control of the Yotsuba not the Japanese Govt. The amount of terror that the fact that the Untouchables now have the power to destroy anybody would be very bad.

Except for the fact that he's not under their control or loyal to them. His duties for the 101st are a higher priority than any orders given to him by Maya or the clan itself.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

And his identity as Siver next volume. If they were to demand that, than they would have to demand the execution of every s-class mage, which isn't very plausible and wouldn't occur.

We were discussing in response to the silver reveal. Tatsuya's the only strategic class who can destroy the planet. If his magic gets out, then the world won't tolerate his existence. Not to mention that 101 will be forced to put him under protection which would lead to conflict with him.

[-Mahesvara_]

Originally Posted by bakato

We were discussing in response to the silver reveal. Tatsuya's the only strategic class who can destroy the planet. If his magic gets out, then the world won't tolerate his existence. Not to mention that 101 will be forced to put him under protection which would lead to conflict with him.

The point is that, his secrets are slowly being publicized and its only a matter of time till he's revealed to be a strategic-class magician, whether intentional or not(honestly, I think it would be way less detrimental if its intentional). They don't have to disclose all the info on material burst, as long as there is the impression that there is a limit to the level of destruction, outrage will be at a minimum. Plus I could see him being registered under his 101st alias, like Lina is under Angie Sirius, if they're worried about confidentiality.

[MRD143]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

Except for the fact that he's not under their control or loyal to them. His duties for the 101st are a higher priority than any orders given to him by Maya or the clan itself.

The public doesn't know these facts and Tatsuya is loyal to Miyuki first and always. If Miyuki wants him to quit cooperating with the 101 then that is that. Just the fact that the Magician responsible for Scorched Halloween is a Yotsuba is enough to cause terror among the Worlds population.

[-Mahesvara_]

Originally Posted by MRD143

The public doesn't know these facts and Tatsuya is loyal to Miyuki first and always. If Miyuki wants him to quit cooperating with the 101 then that is that. Just the fact that the Magician responsible for Scorched Halloween is a Yotsuba is enough to cause terror among the Worlds population.

They don't know that either, so whats your point? Miyuki also has no authority over him either now, since he is no longer her guardian and he wouldn't just listen to her blindly either without weighing in the pros and cons. Well as long as its indicated that he's a "loyal" part of the Japanese military, things shouldn't get to crazy.

Also this volume is still going strong in terms of sales, it already closing on 160k https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1636316

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

They don't know that either, so whats your point? Miyuki also has no authority over him either now, since he is no longer her guardian and he wouldn't just listen to her blindly either without weighing in the pros and cons. Well as long as its indicated that he's a "loyal" part of the Japanese military, things shouldn't get to crazy.

Also this volume is still going strong in terms of sales, it already closing on 160k https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1636316

But Miyuki would always be Tatsuya's number 1 priority. Every action that he will take would always be of Miyuki's benefit.

[MRD143]

Tatsuya flat out said"Miyuki is the only existence that matters to me" in vol 19 when talking with Fujibayashi. That pretty well shows that he has no loyalty to anyone but Miyuki and would kill anybody if it would benefit her or safeguard her.

[-Mahesvara_]

And? The public is not aware of that and won't be aware of that, only people close to or know of the siblings are aware of that. So its not going to effect the public's reaction if he were announced as an S-Class mage, so its fruitless to bring that up. The only cause for concern is that he's a part of the Yotsuba, but he's also part of the military, which already indicates that he's willing to assist the nation, so backlash shouldn't be to outrageous.

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by -Mahesvara_

And? The public is not aware of that and won't be aware of that, only people close to or know of the siblings are aware of that. So its not going to effect the public's reaction if he were announced as an S-Class mage, so its fruitless to bring that up. The only cause for concern is that he's a part of the Yotsuba, but he's also part of the military, which already indicates that he's willing to assist the nation, so backlash shouldn't be to outrageous.

And Tatsuya doesn't care all that much for the public or the military. Considering the current climate, the public would not react that well on the knowledge that a magician exist that can end the world in a snap of a finger. Also, Tatsuya would dislike the extra exposure.

[-Mahesvara_]

Originally Posted by fujin of shadows

And Tatsuya doesn't care all that much for the public or the military. Considering the current climate, the public would not react that well on the knowledge that a magician exist that can end the world in a snap of a finger. Also, Tatsuya would dislike the extra exposure.

Not saying he doesn't care about the public isn't quite accurate. As one of his goals is to improve the social standing of magicians. Also the public wouldn't be aware of the full potential of material burst unless it was leaked, Japan wouldn't be stupid enough to reveal all of the details behind the spell anyway. He's going to be revealed as Silver to the world next volume, so all eyes are going to be on him already.