(L) (Legend of) Condor Hero Discussion

[LynnieS]

Originally Posted by PennyWise

Spoilers dont really affect me much,as it always is better to see it than hear about tit.

A few more questions and i guess that can end the spoiling for me.

Why does Shouryuujo leave Youka again
When she tells Kakufu about losing hear virginity,does she say that she thought it was Youka,or that shew always knew it was the preist
Last question,How does Shouryuujo find out that the preist is the one she had sex with

I was also adding the spoiler tags for other people. Don't want to get NoSanninWa mad at me. He/she is scary...

1. "Why does Shouryuujo leave Youka again?"

Spoiler:

Youka first went off to rescue his uncle's, Guo Jing, newborn daughter (who plays a significant part in the last quarter of the novel, and ran into the brothers' duel. He felt sorry for their father, who wanted to stop their fight but knew that they would just go ahead and duel when he's not around, and stepped in. While he was mouthing off, Shouryuujo came upon them unnoticed and heard that he's now engaged.

2. "When she tells..."

Spoiler:

No, Kakufu heard it from one of the beggars. Two of the priests came by to see her father not too long ago, and a beggar in the beggars clan told her that they were fighting in the room that they were staying. When she went there to satisfy her curiousity, Kakufu heard the argument. Shouryuujo doesn't know at that point.

3. "How does Shouryuujo find out...?"

Spoiler:

While she was wandering around in the gardens after she left her sword, she overheard the same two arguing and found out that way. (Love that literary device, BTW...) The guy does die not too long afterwards (within the week if Shouryuujo can be believed) but Shouryuujo didn't kill him.

When I was rereading the book, though, there seems to be a time problem here, or Youka recovered and learned to use that heavy sword of his a lot faster.

[Keitaro]

Originally Posted by LynnieS

I was also adding the spoiler tags for other people. Don't want to get NoSanninWa mad at me. He/she is scary...

1. "Why does Shouryuujo leave Youka again?"

Spoiler:

Youka first went off to rescue his uncle's, Guo Jing, newborn daughter (who plays a significant part in the last quarter of the novel, and ran into the brothers' duel. He felt sorry for their father, who wanted to stop their fight but knew that they would just go ahead and duel when he's not around, and stepped in. While he was mouthing off, Shouryuujo came upon them unnoticed and heard that he's now engaged.

2. "When she tells..."

Spoiler:

No, Kakufu heard it from one of the beggars. Two of the priests came by to see her father not too long ago, and a beggar in the beggars clan told her that they were fighting in the room that they were staying. When she went there to satisfy her curiousity, Kakufu heard the argument. Shouryuujo doesn't know at that point.

3. "How does Shouryuujo find out...?"

Spoiler:

While she was wandering around in the gardens after she left her sword, she overheard the same two arguing and found out that way. (Love that literary device, BTW...) The guy does die not too long afterwards (within the week if Shouryuujo can be believed) but Shouryuujo didn't kill him.

When I was rereading the book, though, there seems to be a time problem here, or Youka recovered and learned to use that heavy sword of his a lot faster.

damn i just couldnt resist reading those spoilers, but it wont matter anyway cause I'll probably forget it before I actually get to see it happen if it happens at all in the series.

[|Aion|]

damn, thank you man,im itching to ask one more question though.

Last Question i swear,if i ask anohter have Xris-sama ban me.
After Shouryuujo leaves him,does Youka find her quickly,and say "HEy,I never wanted to be engaged to that bitch anyways"Of course this is all assuming he says "bitch why the fuck you cut my arm off,thats it engagment is off"Or at the end of the novel do they just never meet again.

DAMN MY FUCKIN CURIOSITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and my spelling.........

[LynnieS]

Originally Posted by PennyWise

damn, thank you man,im itching to ask one more question though.

Last Question i swear,if i ask anohter have Xris-sama ban me.
After Shouryuujo leaves him,does Youka find her quickly,and say "HEy,I never wanted to be engaged to that bitch anyways"Of course this is all assuming he says "bitch why the fuck you cut my arm off,thats it engagment is off"Or at the end of the novel do they just never meet again.

DAMN MY FUCKIN CURIOSITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and my spelling.........

LOL! I don't think that asking questions is grounds for banning someone.

I'll have to go look in the book to be absolutely sure that I'm giving you the correct information, though. This is just what I remember from memory... a dicey thing most of the times.

Spoiler:

The two were never engaged outside of an informal discussion between Guo Jing and his wife. Youka just wanted to make sure that the brothers give up their crush on the girl.

Youka does tell Shouryuujo that he would never marry that girl anyway in a rather touching scene, but they met up accidentally when Youka went back to the tomb to see if Shouryuujo was there. He didn't make it in time to keep her from getting injured, though.

I'm guessing that they were apart for (maybe) 2-3 days? Can't be much more than that, though, since there's not much time left.

There is one more time that the two were apart, which was the 16 year separatation that everyone had been talking about; this is just the third time.

Keitarou20 - I'm just putting in spoilers for the book, and not the anime. If my VCDs can be believed - and since I don't understand the language it's in, which is a significant problem in trying to figure out the changes, if any, in the storyline - the visual ending of the series is below.

No spoiler about the storyline, however.

Spoiler:

The series ends with Youka and Shouryuujo going somewhere in a boat. Very lovey-dovey, the two appear.

[Keitaro]

Originally Posted by LynnieS

Keitarou20 - I'm just putting in spoilers for the book, and not the anime. If my VCDs can be believed - and since I don't understand the language it's in, which is a significant problem in trying to figure out the changes, if any, in the storyline - the visual ending of the series is below.

No spoiler about the storyline, however.

Spoiler:

The series ends with Youka and Shouryuujo going somewhere in a boat. Very lovey-dovey, the two appear.

Thanks for the spoilers, I do hope the anime follows the books that ending sounds really nice for them.

Spoiler:

Why does youka have to lose an arm, that just really sucks. Does Kakufu die in the books

[LynnieS]

Originally Posted by Keitarou20

Thanks for the spoilers, I do hope the anime follows the books that ending sounds really nice for them.

Spoiler:

Why does youka have to lose an arm, that just really sucks. Does Kakufu die in the books

I'm terrible with names and places, BTW, so please forgive.

Spoiler:

No, she remains alive at the end of this book.

Of her family, though, I think that her younger sister was the only survivor when the city that their family was protecting finally fell to the Mongols. That is hinted within the third novel of the series.

Thanks for the spoilers, I do hope the anime follows the books that ending sounds really nice for them.

Spoiler:

The book doesn't have a "Romeo and Juliet" flavor, no.

[monir]

Spoiler:

The book doesn't have a "Romeo and Juliet" flavor, no.

That is all we, the non-manga reader, ask.

[gundam44]

im sorry to say that
the ending in the anime is very very very different from the novel.

i bought the dvd and finished it just now.The dvd is TVB one so its taiwanese and its dubbed.well didnt have a choice, just have to see the ending....

And what i can say is the ending is quite sad.

[Momo99]

Just wondering, how can u see the ending when it is not even made yet? The anime currently is 1-26. The rest of the story 26-52 is not even in production yet. The ending you saw is not the real ending. If the anime follows the original story at all, the ending is a good one.

[gundam44]

oo
theres a season ..
sorry i dont know.no wonder i see epsiode 26 is like so funny.
it just end quite abruptly.And it didnt even say about youka going to fight the mongolians with guo jing.

[bLizz4rD]

Legend of the condor heroes was screened (real life actors .. w/ famous andy lau ((hongkee actor)) as the lead as youka) on my television in the 1980s. I think the anime first surfaced almost 2 years ago? In my country that is, but it's in chinese. Though i'm chinese, i simply have difficulties understanding it.

Anyway, Legend of the Condor Heroes is not just a simple badass good guy kill and everything ends happily ever after. There're lots of twist n turns to it (in the actual acting screenings) which made it such a famous ... epic i will say. The original write pened this story in thick books ... probably well over 4000+ pages?

The pace at which the anime moving is pretty fast already, imho. So for all friends outside asia .. enjoy this epic. Nobody dies for no reason, n nobody is a good guy for no reason.

Cheers!

edit1: changed 400+ pages to become 4000+ pages

[LynnieS]

Originally posted by gundam44
And what i can say is the ending is quite sad.

The whole situation is a plot device, and the ending of the novel is, IMHO, better because it.

bLizz4rD - I think that you mean 4000+ pages instead? Page count isn't a really good indicator, though, since it depends a great deal on the publisher; my copy spans 4 books, for example, and approx. 3400 pages.

[bLizz4rD]

Originally Posted by LynnieS

The whole situation is a plot device, and the ending of the novel is, IMHO, better because it.

bLizz4rD - I think that you mean 4000+ pages instead? Page count isn't a really good indicator, though, since it depends a great deal on the publisher; my copy spans 4 books, for example, and approx. 3400 pages.

Thanks, i think i missed out 1 more 0.

BTW, for manga readers only, i've seen some publication in my local book stores of the english version of Condor Heroes. I believe they're avaliable in other countries as well. maybe you'll like to check.

Cheers!

[bLizz4rD]

attached .. a picture of the front cover of a version of the manga in my local stores ...



Cheers!

[LynnieS]

I believe that there are two versions of the novel in English; neither is an 100% faithful translation - read, text only - though. YesAsia.com used to carry one printing, but I'm not seeing anything on their site now.

ComicsOne is also putting out its version using Louis Cha's text also, but Tony Wong's art. The latest book should be out in another month or two; the anime equivalent looks to be at episode 12 or 13.

[Faleira]

hey, above, ther was a link to where to buy the cantonese dub to CH, but i checked and i don't think they have it anymore, i love the series, never got a chance to read the books, but saw the shows. and i freaked out when i found out there was an anime on it. problem is, i can't get ahold of either trad. chinese subs or Cantonese dubs, cause it just doesn't feel right, watching it in english subs, lol


and is it ust me or is the drawing technique like practically the same as Cooking Master Boy?

[LynnieS]

The only site that I knew that was selling the Cantonese dubbed discs was YesAsia.com, and they look to have either sold out (and aren't getting any more) or discontinued the title.

You can always go Googling for other sites, though.

[stpam]

All right awesome!! Been looking forward to this fight!
Thx Live Evil

[Keitaro]

dling right now thanx L-E & Tofu

edit: just watched it. Man it was fricking awesome, Youka really kicked ass, and its about fricking time too i was waiting for the moment he open a can of womp ass from all the skills he learned.

the preview for the next episode looks like a lot is going to happen. Kakufu get kidnapped..... I say let her ass get kidnapped, no need to rescue

boy i wish koko would find out youka wasnt the one who took away her virginity already. but from what i heard from ppl who read the novels

Spoiler:

koko doesnt find out until she hears some ppl talking about it, some time after youka already loses an arm to kakufu and that was like in the middle of the story or something like that correct me if im wrong

[NoSanninWa]

OMG!! This episode was absolutely awesome! The fights were incredible and I was just boiling at the end when Uncle announced that he was going to marry Youka off to that annoying flirt Kakufu. Then Youka asked Koko to marry him and I was so excited my heart went doki-doki! Then my stomach fell as I heard how their love is forbidden!

AAAAAHHHHH!!!!! I want episode 17 right now! This hurts so much to wait!

Incidently, wasn't that an unacceptable level of cheating when Youka and Shouryuujo teamed up to finish off Kinrinhouou? These were all supposed to be one-on-one matches. Was the crowd just so worked up about Kinrinhouou and Kuduu's dirty tactics that nobody cared about such things any more?